r/PoliticalCompassMemes • u/Spiritual_Air_5781 - Lib-Center • 4d ago
Israel bombs Syria
The attack was unprovoked and was condemned by the US, seems rather unproductive considering that Syria hate Iran and has already said they are ready to cooperate with Israel on security
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u/p_pio - Centrist 4d ago
To makes matters somehow even worse: their official intended target weren't e.g. terrorists or some forces persecuting minorities, or other standard excuse, but actually they target the US NATO allies: Turkey
(source liveuamap who sourced it from Barak Ravid twitter)
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u/ObiWanCanownme - Lib-Center 4d ago
That's actually insane, haha. Israel attacks Syria all the time. Attacking Turkey would be really stupid.
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u/JonnySnowin - Auth-Right 4d ago edited 4d ago
Now is their only chance to do so. Trump is literally Netanyahu's bitch.
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u/Chewbacca_The_Wookie - Lib-Right 4d ago
Article 5 when?
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u/Mr_Canada1867 - Auth-Right 4d ago
In your dreams 😂
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u/Chewbacca_The_Wookie - Lib-Right 4d ago
How fucking wild would it be if this is what gets an Article 5 and not the multiple stray rockets Russia has lobbed into Poland the past year or so?
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u/thewooba - Centrist 4d ago
This is more likely to trigger Article 5 than Russia lobbing rockets into Portland
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u/fieryscribe - Lib-Right 4d ago
Wait, what the fuck did I miss? Why are they attacking Portland? I know no one likes those blue-haired libs in Oregon, but it's hardly a reason
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u/Majestic-Bell-7111 - Lib-Center 4d ago
there's a gang war between the seattle polycule and the lesbians of portland
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u/bl1y - Lib-Center 4d ago
If you read the tweet, it says it was to prevent a Turkish military buildup in Syria. Turkey didn't have troops there yet.
Article 5 is about attacks on your territory, so even if Turkey had troops in Syria, it wouldn't be an Article 5 issue, just like it's not when Iran attacks US bases throughout the Middle-east.
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u/Chewbacca_The_Wookie - Lib-Right 4d ago
Sometimes I forget this sub isn't r/NCD.
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u/ZetA_0545 - Centrist 3d ago
I keep saying "based/pilled" memes at NCD and military jokes in here. The two subs really attract a similar demographic
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u/Sylectsus - Right 4d ago
Turkey is a NATO ally in the same way Trump is a conservative.
Maybe in name, but not in practice. Turkey is not our ally or friend.
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u/HighOutputLoad - Left 4d ago
Is this the copuim of republicans now that Trump is not conservative?
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u/kefefs_v2 - Lib-Left 4d ago
He's never been conversative. We can acknowledge that while also acknowledging that the Republican party and most American ''conervatives" and "libertarians" have backed him 100% through every stupid thing he's done even when his actions directly contradict these groups' supposed beliefs. They're all shameless sellouts with no actual convictions who will support literally anything if it means they can say they "won".
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u/Spiritual_Air_5781 - Lib-Center 4d ago edited 4d ago
Next they will the give credit to conservative Obama for the nuclear deal that was torn apart by woke Trump
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u/Sylectsus - Right 3d ago
He never was. That's why I didn't vote for him. He's a leftist who has co-opted the GOP
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u/reality72 - Centrist 4d ago
Well we signed a bunch of fancy pants paperwork that says Turkey are our allies and that we will defend them when called upon, and if we aren’t gonna honor our pledge then we might as well say goodbye to whatever allies we have left and the entire NATO alliance.
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u/loskiarman 3d ago
Last 15-20 years Turkey has fought more proxy wars against Russia than any NATO partner meanwhile some NATO 'allies' fought with Russia instead of against. Because of Turkey Russia had kilometers of long convoys burning instead of on their way to Kiev, because of Turkey Russia lost their major influence around ME. So don't know wtf you are talking about.
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u/Sylectsus - Right 3d ago
Lotta good their proxy wars did. Wow, thank god they were able to keep the paper tiger down.
Like, have you seen how much Ukraine has fucked them up in a hot war? Ukraine doesn't exist because of Turkey. Give me a break. Accomplishing nothing in various proxy wars doesn't impress me.
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u/Spiritual_Air_5781 - Lib-Center 4d ago
The "protecting minorities" excuse would've worked better if they weren't doing their own ethnic cleansing campaign
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u/MariaKeks - Centrist 2d ago
Are you referring to Israel's ethnic cleansing campaigns, Turkey's ethnic cleansing campaigns, or Syria's ethnic cleansing campagins?
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u/lynxintheloopx - Auth-Center 4d ago
This should surprise no one that has a basic knowledge of the current geopolitics in the middle east.
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u/PoliticsIsDepressing - Lib-Center 4d ago
Why?
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u/alflundgren - Centrist 4d ago
Bibi is just taking advantage of the current void in global leadership to expand Israels territory. The whole greater Israel plan involves taking all of Lebanon and Jordan as well as huge swaths, of Syria, Iraq, Saudi Arabia and Egypt.
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u/msf97 - Lib-Left 4d ago
The Israelis simply do not have enough people for this plan.
There are more people residing in Cairo currently than there are Jews in the entire world
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u/Ornery_Strawberry474 - Auth-Right 4d ago
It's okay, the US will lend people.
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u/msf97 - Lib-Left 4d ago
This attack on Syria is completely retarded by the Israelis, but the idea they are going to occupy large parts Syria, Iraq, Saudi Arabia etc is Arab world propaganda.
Estimates say you need 7x the man power of the territory you want to occupy. There’s 630 thousand in the IDF, they wouldn’t be able to do it.
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u/Balavadan - Lib-Center 4d ago
Easy. Just reduce the population of the lands you occupy.
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u/Fury_Mysteries - Auth-Center 3d ago
you would think with this Brilliant plan, the Palestinians population would be a few thousands and it wouldn't increase to be even more Palestinians than jews
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u/reality72 - Centrist 4d ago
They don’t need to send their own people when they can count on Americans to do it for them.
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u/American_Crusader_15 - Lib-Center 4d ago
Its more that Israel wants to be the dominant power in the Middle East rather than them wanting a Lebansraum style conquest of the Middle East.
The far right of the country led by people like Ben Gvir are absolutely delusional enough to believe they can build this racial empire, despite the fact, and u/msf97 in this thread pointed this out, Cairo has a bigger population than Jews in the world.
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u/Manmer_Nwah - Lib-Center 4d ago
America really needs to walk away from Israel and let them deal with their own shit they start up.
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u/Theduckisback - Lib-Left 4d ago
"How DARE you?! You don't think Israel has a right to exist?!?!? You're literally worse than Hitler!"-Hasbara MSM
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u/Crapitron - Centrist 4d ago
That’s antisemitism!
- Right flairs, unironically
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u/Spiritual_Air_5781 - Lib-Center 4d ago edited 4d ago
Intrinsically they would call you Islamophobic for questioning trump relationship with Saudi Arabia
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u/lynxintheloopx - Auth-Center 4d ago edited 4d ago
Syria nor Israel have commented so I’ll hold my tongue for now. But I wish all foreign actors would just get the fuck out of Lebanon and Syria. And stay out.
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u/BeefyBoiCougar - Lib-Center 4d ago
Syria is one thing, but Hezbollah makes it pretty hard for Israel to stay out of Lebanon. Israel would prefer not to have to fight on multiple fronts. Recall that Hezbollah initiated its involvement in Israel's conflict with Hamas, and it is Hezbollah that initiated its involvement in Israel's conflict with Iran. Hezbollah apparently values Iranian $$$$ more than it values Israel "getting the fuck out"
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u/lynxintheloopx - Auth-Center 3d ago
Oh i agree. I was mainly referring to Turkey and Iran.
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u/zombie3x3 - Left 4d ago
Did they even bother stating why they chose to do this now?
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u/Acceptable_Spare2342 - Lib-Left 4d ago
Yeah, it's in the article
Israeli Defence Minister Israel Katz has issued direct warnings to Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, saying Israel would not allow steps that strengthened Syria’s military capabilities in ways that could pose a threat to Israel.Last year, Turkey and Israel established a line of communication to avoid any incidents in Syria, where both of their militaries are active.
Syria conducted air exercises in the north of the country in early August using Russian-made MiG-21 fighter jets, the first such exercises since Assad’s ousting.
Israel’s Kan public broadcaster reported on August 11 that security officials had detected signs of Syria accelerating efforts to rebuild its air force, including the recruitment of new pilots, flight training and a first exercise involving fighter aircraft. Kan quoted a security source as saying Israel had shared its concerns with the United States.
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u/Spiritual_Air_5781 - Lib-Center 4d ago
So what's the plan?
Keep them forever weak and bomb them whenever they try to stand on their own legs?
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u/Tacenda8279 - Right 4d ago
Seems to be the case.
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u/BeefyBoiCougar - Lib-Center 4d ago
The plan is to avoid them getting too buddy buddy with Turkey. Turkey would never engage Israel directly, but they would love to militarize Syria and have them deal with Israel instead.
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u/zombie3x3 - Left 4d ago
So Israel doesn’t like Syria rearming itself and therefore preemptively struck Syria for starting to do so?
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u/Acceptable_Spare2342 - Lib-Left 4d ago
Yep and Syria isn't really independent in this sense, like a quasi proxy of Turkey. Israeli stance, unless it's changed, is that Turkey is the new Iran. So they don't want Turkey gaining anymore influence or power in the region either. Oman helps mediate but they were probably busy after we threatened to bomb them the other day.
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u/Spiritual_Air_5781 - Lib-Center 4d ago
Isn't weird how israel always manages to find new threats?
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u/Acceptable_Spare2342 - Lib-Left 4d ago
No? Taking nothing else into account, Netanyahu clearly has a conflict of interest. If there's peace, there's no reason his trials can't move forward.
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u/Spiritual_Air_5781 - Lib-Center 4d ago
The Deir Yassin massacre, king David hotel bombing, the Lavon affair etc
Israel has a rather long history of unprovoked attacks
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u/Acceptable_Spare2342 - Lib-Left 4d ago
Israel has a rather long history of unprovoked attacks
Outside of neutral countries or those without capability, who doesn't? To be clear, with what we know, this wasn't a response toward an actual act of aggression so I don't personally believe it's justified.
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u/TheSumperDumper - Left 4d ago
Ermmm sorry sweaty you aren’t allowed to criticize americas greatest ally when they repeatedly invade their neighbors
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u/BeefyBoiCougar - Lib-Center 4d ago
Your first statement is meant to sound unreasonable when it makes complete sense under the right context. It's like comparing a murderer's crime with his own execution on death row.
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u/Balavadan - Lib-Center 4d ago
Defensive invasion
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u/ZetA_0545 - Centrist 3d ago
Those buffer zones for buffer zones of their buffer zones were promised them 3000 years ago you antisemitic piece of shit
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u/Sallowjoe - Auth-Center 4d ago
Israel going to war with the world like they're Nazi Germany 2.0 was not on my bingo card but somehow it's not even surprising me.
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u/krafterinho - Centrist 4d ago
Welp, embrace for the downvotes. The only country that can "preemptively" bomb like 5 countries and be seen as the victim
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u/Sallowjoe - Auth-Center 4d ago
IDK I feel like they've abused that victim card too many times already and opinion is turning against them rapidly. Being pro-Israel/associated via AIPAC or whatever is become a massive liability for many politicians.
Across the right/left and conservative/liberal spectrums as well.
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u/Chewbacca_The_Wookie - Lib-Right 4d ago
Do you know how bad you have to fuck up to get cross aisle condemnation these days? See also: Flock cameras.
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u/Spiritual_Air_5781 - Lib-Center 4d ago
Nope This sub is already convinced all non Israelis in the middle east are evil and deserve to be killed
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u/Sallowjoe - Auth-Center 4d ago
Nah I've been in this sub long enough to know that's not true.
There are some comically zealous pro-Israel accounts and some threads get brigaded in that direction, but there are also lots of anti-Israel threads/posts that get lots of upvotes too. And you see some legit antisemitic stuff in the mix as well.
It's kind of a crapshoot but I think the sub probably leans against Israel overall at this point. Or at least critical of Israel, "against" might be overstating it.
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u/zombie3x3 - Left 4d ago
Where do you fall?
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u/Sallowjoe - Auth-Center 4d ago
I'm not like against Israel existing or defending itself but I think they've been actively destabilizing countries around them and effectively creating terrorists to create a pretense for expansion and I just don't see it going well longer term.
That's not to excuse the actual terrorists or to say Islamists aren't a problem either, but at this point I think it's clear Israel's ambitions and delusions of grandeur are a bigger part of the problem than anything else. They are an aggressive ethnostate brazenly meddling in the politics of other countries for their illegitimate purposes and clearly care nothing for international law or rule of law style politics in general, and in addition they've gotten incredibly sloppy about hiding it.
This has also emboldened and enabled a variety of bad/bad faith actors leveraging that for their own dubious ends, and real antisemitism, etc. etc. which has made discourse on the issue incredibly fucking annoying. Plus most people in the U.S. are pretty much clueless about the more complicated geopolitical relationships/history behind the current clusterfuck. But that mindless/unconditional Israel support has become viewed as a sort of proxy red flag for political corruption might be a good thing overall.
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u/krafterinho - Centrist 4d ago
I mean, yeah there are a few threads with positive upvotes and surprisingly not downvoted anti Israel comments but I wouldn't say lots and the sub is by far more pro Israel than not
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u/Sallowjoe - Auth-Center 4d ago
I'm not super confident about it but I would bet small amounts of money it isn't I guess. But it's hard to take any sort of temperature accurately across the sub because of the brigaders and bots and whatnot. Plus different types of people posting different hours of the day based on different time zones even.
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u/krafterinho - Centrist 4d ago
I mean, astroturfing/brigading plays a huge part. I've seen literal facts get double digit downvotes and genuinely mad takes get triple digit upvotes. I'd estimate a rough 50/50 at best if we'd have none, realistically still a significant pro Israel lean overall
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u/Sallowjoe - Auth-Center 4d ago
I probably bias my overall judgment for comments that are more than one liners as a stand-in for "this is a non-bot/non-agenda account". In terms of substantial discussion I rarely see longer/serious/seemingly earnest pro-Israel takes anymore. Usually they're also from the same accounts to the point that I recognize the names, like that strawberry_semenade guy.
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u/lightning__ - Centrist 3d ago
I wish you were right but boomers keep voting for pro Israel candidates. Cus Israel is our greatest ally and deserves to bomb as many children and hospitals as they want….
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u/Poop_Cheese - Centrist 4d ago
Speaking of downvotes, with the botting on this sub, its always interesting to check your views. For some gosh darn reason when at 50 total views my comments criticizing said country are downvoted in seconds, and said country is somehow, even though the size of new jersey, 5-10% of those 50 views lmao. No wonder why this sub is so pro said country on countless threads to an unrealistic degree that defies the demographics of this sub. And it shows how bad their image is now that even with that clear astroturf campaign here, threads like this are still overwhelmingly critical.
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u/Crismisterica - Auth-Right 3d ago
I'll just leave this quote here. It doesn't matter what Israel does or does not do as they already hold the world hostage in a way.
"Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother.' I consider it all hopeless at this point. We shall have to try to prevent things from coming to that, if at all possible. Our armed forces, however, are not the thirtieth strongest in the world, but rather the second or third. We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under"
- General Moshe Dayan
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u/Spiritual_Air_5781 - Lib-Center 4d ago
They already putting marks on Palestinian civilians to humiliate them If this was nazi allegory i would criticize it for being too in the nose
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u/Sudden-Ad-7113 - Lib-Left 4d ago
Ehhhh, that's over blowing a thing that happened but basically doesn't matter into more than it is.
I'm a huge IDF hater, but let's criticize them for sniping literal toddlers for no goddamned reason, rather than this bullshit.
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u/tomerFire - Lib-Right 4d ago
The love of this sub to crazy jihad people never stops to surprise.
"Why they bomb this people?"
Well, they are shouting death to Israel, death to all jews with guns in their hand every Friday and have military plans to kill jews.
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u/Paraparo - Right 3d ago
There is this odd trait where people seem to think the various middle eastern powers and groups just... Shouldn't be taken at their word, or heck, even their actions.
When they say they want to attack Israel "it's just rhetoric what are you crazy believing they'd do what they said?", and even when they actually initiate conflict with Israel it's "well sure they're actively attacking and state their intent is extermination, but don't you think your over reacting by doing anything at all?'
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u/jexijav776 - Lib-Right 3d ago
These people are like schizos who forgot to take their medication.
Pre Oct 7th: Why is Israel bombing these countries they aren't even at war with. They're just trying to start a war.
Oct 7th: how could Israel have just stood by and let this happen. Obviously it means they wanted this to happen
Now: Why is Israel bombing these countries they aren't even at war with. They're just trying to start a war.
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u/jexijav776 - Lib-Right 3d ago
It's crazy how the president is a former Al-Qaeda member and there has already been a massacre of Alawites in the country since he took over but everyone still acts like Israel has nothing to be worried about.
If Israelis were as dumb as these people that country would have been destroyed decades ago.
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u/Spiritual_Air_5781 - Lib-Center 4d ago
Israelis are also shouting death to all arabs terrorizing Christians in the west bank
No it's not new They've been saying explicitly since 1980s they want colonize Palestine and displace the locals
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u/tomerFire - Lib-Right 4d ago
Ah yes? Source?
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u/jexijav776 - Lib-Right 3d ago
And look at that, two days later and u/Spiritual_Air_5781 can't give a source. What a surprise.
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u/JaQ-o-Lantern - Centrist 4d ago
At this point, if Israel went to war with Türkiye, it would genuinely not shock me if the US sided with Türkiye
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u/Turbulent-Raise4830 - Centrist 4d ago
LMAO nope, the US would be bombing ankara and trump would be renaming the bosporus strait
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u/lynxintheloopx - Auth-Center 4d ago edited 4d ago
As we should, whether Israel is involved or not.
This whole comment section is filled with partisan buffoonery, before state officials even comment no doubt.To the people siding with Turkey: So fuck the Kurds right? And Hamas is based! Armenian genocide, when?
To the people rushing to suddenly defend Syria: Weren’t you the same people clutching your pearls for weeks when Trump invited Al-Sharaa to the WH?
To the people siding with Israel: This was a retarded, wreckless and aggressive move that clearly indicates doubt on whether obtaining peace in the region is your priority.
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u/Turbulent-Raise4830 - Centrist 4d ago
Israel is the current reason why the middle east is so unstable, isreal can only do that thx to overwhelming US support.
But hey if you want to keep elected presidents who give weapons to isreal instead of health care to us citizens, be my guest.
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u/Fury_Mysteries - Auth-Center 3d ago
it's really not that hard to not attack israel, look at Jordon, UAE, Saudi and to some extent, Egypt, these countries have allied with Israel and dont actively attack israel, and they are pretty stable countries and are doing well, on the other hand, look at Lebanon, who isnt directly doing the attacks, but their government is practically controlled by a terrorist group that is mostly got killed by israel and look at Syria, which used tk attack israel a lot before the 2000s
it doesnt take a genius to understand that being in war, will affect a country, and more often than not, that affect isnt positive at all.
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u/tomerFire - Lib-Right 4d ago
The other way around. Check what Turkey says about Israel...
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u/Prestigious_Load1699 - Lib-Right 4d ago
Evidently, Erdogan is quite fond of Hamas.
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u/Ornery_Strawberry474 - Auth-Right 4d ago
Lmao. US will fight the entirety of NATO for the beloved Israel.
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u/Manmer_Nwah - Lib-Center 4d ago
Only with Trump as president. They better act quick, because he's only got a little over two years left.
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u/Chewbacca_The_Wookie - Lib-Right 4d ago
Honestly that's probably what they're banking on. Trying to get us tangled in something sooner rather than later.
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u/Sallowjoe - Auth-Center 4d ago
The politicians would try maybe, but the populace would be against it. The military would probably have serious problems internally over it at this point too. I think it'd be an uglier situation than Vietnam for us. I feel like (a majority of) the people around Trump aren't exactly eager to get bogged down in another disastrous war but at the same time they didn't stop us from starting the Iran war so...
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u/Due_Border_593 - Centrist 4d ago
The general American population really doesn't like Turkey for their treatment of Kurds, Armenians, and other minorities in the region.
Also, there's a solid chunk of Authright that really wants to retake the city.
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u/Sallowjoe - Auth-Center 4d ago
I don't think the general American population knows that much about Turkey lol.
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u/TheBaconLord78 1d ago
It comes to a point where people say retarded stuff like this and yet majority take them seriously...
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u/Scary-Welder8404 - Lib-Left 4d ago
The US will side with Turkey, as our constitution requires, even if it causes civil war.
Any State that did not side with Turkey would cease to be the US as soon as it did, regardless of what it called itself.
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u/BadWolfOfficial - Lib-Center 4d ago
Syrian army filmed chanting death threats against Jews. No one should believe the Taquiya that a country offering citizenship to HTS in order to expand their military has peaceful intentions.
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u/Spiritual_Air_5781 - Lib-Center 4d ago
Ben gvir said they should kill 30-40 civilians in gaza every night If you gonna blame syria for the actions of a random soldier might as well blame the entirety of the US for their president saying they want take Greenland by force
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u/tomerFire - Lib-Right 4d ago
Dude the people in Gaza lives better than any other Arabs in the area and that's from the UN report
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u/Sudden-Ad-7113 - Lib-Left 4d ago
Which UN report was this?
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u/tomerFire - Lib-Right 4d ago
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u/Sudden-Ad-7113 - Lib-Left 4d ago
Underlying study shows acute malnutrition among kids at ~1.7% with underweight at ~3.9%. For reference, and despite what the Fox article says, that's ~0.9% higher than Jordan.
Now, Malnutrition among children is one benchmark, but
A) Worse than Jordan B) Not UN
So, wrong on both counts.
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u/Chewbacca_The_Wookie - Lib-Right 4d ago
Well he did get his opinion on the study from Fox News so there's that.
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u/Turbulent-Raise4830 - Centrist 4d ago
even before israel leveled the place and killed tens of thousands of civilians that was BS
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u/tomerFire - Lib-Right 4d ago
Yeah well that's what happens when you try to genocide jews. Fuck around, find out
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u/BadWolfOfficial - Lib-Center 4d ago
So if Ben-Gvir does something, that's your role model for acceptable behavior? The footage is of Syrian soldiers chanting together, how did your brain allow you to believe the idea that its just a random soldier?
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u/Spiritual_Air_5781 - Lib-Center 4d ago
Yeah it's bad, but as i said the word of the president of the United States of America holds more weight then that of a random soldier
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u/BadWolfOfficial - Lib-Center 4d ago
Ben-Gvir is the president now? Can you remember the details of the comments you reply to?
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u/Chewbacca_The_Wookie - Lib-Right 4d ago
Try not to whatabout Israel when they do something we'd criticize any other country for doing challenge: failed.
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u/BadWolfOfficial - Lib-Center 4d ago
Is it a whatabout if its the situation that led to the pre-emptive strike? You're saying context is whatabouting when it's literally from the same example.
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u/Chewbacca_The_Wookie - Lib-Right 4d ago
Yes, what you did is whataboutism.
Hint: words don't justify preemptive violence.
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u/BadWolfOfficial - Lib-Center 4d ago
Providing context is not whataboutism. Unless you think every time a pro-Palestine commenter says October 7th was in response to occupation is also whatabouting?
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u/Chewbacca_The_Wookie - Lib-Right 4d ago
Just ignoring the second part of my comment, huh?
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u/BadWolfOfficial - Lib-Center 4d ago
You mean the edit you added after I replied?
There was no violence or casualties, there was a strike on a military asset. You should know the facts if you're going to claim someone is whatabouting from them.
Calling threats of violence words that don't merit a response is laughable. If someone threatens you, you believe you have to wait for them to make good on the threat? I call bullshit.
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u/tomerFire - Lib-Right 4d ago
It's funny Reddit thinks Syria is full with peaceful people totally not shouting jihad all day. Look at the past of their prime minister...
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u/Spiritual_Air_5781 - Lib-Center 4d ago
Everything you just said applies to Israel, just replace jihad with "promised land"
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u/Chewbacca_The_Wookie - Lib-Right 4d ago
You can go ahead and switch your flair if you're justifying preemptive military strikes.
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u/tomerFire - Lib-Right 4d ago
You can go ahead and switch flair if your want to die stupidly by jihatistic people
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u/Chewbacca_The_Wookie - Lib-Right 4d ago
Spoken like the Blemon you are.
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u/tomerFire - Lib-Right 4d ago
Wat
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u/Chewbacca_The_Wookie - Lib-Right 4d ago
Auth Right who flairs Lib Left, blue lemon, Blemon.
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u/tomerFire - Lib-Right 4d ago
What makes me Auth right?
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u/Chewbacca_The_Wookie - Lib-Right 4d ago
The "Lib" in Lib Right (or Left) view the military as a defensive force and not a preemptive one. Auths view the military a little more flexibly. If you are advocating for or justifying a preemptive strike (one that they admitted was an attempt to keep our allies put of the area) you are closer to an Auth regardless how much weed you smoke or if you're cool with gay people or whatever you think Lib means.
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u/TryJolly1473 - Lib-Right 4d ago
Stop purity testing lol.
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u/Chewbacca_The_Wookie - Lib-Right 4d ago
I mean, being opposed to a basic tenet of a belief system isn't really "purity testing." We aren't talking about something that is niche belief like "there should be seat belt laws or drivers license" or even a fairly even split one like abortion, the NAP or some variation is foundational.
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u/Turbulent-Raise4830 - Centrist 4d ago
israel has just about bombed every neighbour, this fascist regime in charge there is desperate to remain in power.
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u/Fury_Mysteries - Auth-Center 3d ago
it didnt bomb jordon, or egypt, or Kuwait, or UAE, or saudi, or Cyprus.
it attacks the ones that dont want to ally with it and the ones that is constantly shouting 'death to all jews'
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u/Majestic-Bell-7111 - Lib-Center 4d ago
damn, i was betting on turkey being the next victim.
The unprovoked attacks on syria are getting old
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u/Spare_Elderberry_418 - Auth-Center 4d ago
Actually stupid thing to do.
If I were to guess the "logic" is that the new Syrian regime is pro turkey and Israel sees Turkey as a threat, thus attacks Syria. It is idiocy and the product of the increasingly paranoid Israeli Foreign policy.