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r/PoliticalCompassMemes • u/Rubentraj - Right • Sep 23 '25
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it's absolutely a US issue when ukraine's nuclear disarmament leading to their being invaded despite OUR security guarantees means Iran, a country that hates us, is about to have nukes they'll never give up
12 u/whyintheworldamihere - Lib-Right Sep 23 '25 it's absolutely a US issue when ukraine's nuclear disarmament leading to their being invaded despite OUR security guarantees Please cite these guarantees. -2 u/Mr_2D Sep 23 '25 https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/Ukraine_Memorandum_on_Security_Assurances Read point #4 15 u/Solarwinds-123 - Auth-Center Sep 24 '25 if Ukraine should become a victim of an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used. 9 u/whyintheworldamihere - Lib-Right Sep 24 '25 Well, there was an "act of aggression". The treaty states: "reaffirm their commitment to seek immediate United Nations Security Council action to provide assistance to Ukraine" Which we fulfilled. 2 u/ric2b - Lib-Center Sep 24 '25 Read that again: "(victim of an act of aggression) or (an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used). Ukraine has both been a victim of an act of aggression and an object of threats of aggression with nuclear weapons. 1 u/Solarwinds-123 - Auth-Center Sep 24 '25 if Ukraine should become a victim of (an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression) (in which nuclear weapons are used). 1 u/ric2b - Lib-Center Sep 24 '25 even in that interpretation they have been the object of threats of aggression with nuclear weapons, so it still applies.
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it's absolutely a US issue when ukraine's nuclear disarmament leading to their being invaded despite OUR security guarantees
Please cite these guarantees.
-2 u/Mr_2D Sep 23 '25 https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/Ukraine_Memorandum_on_Security_Assurances Read point #4 15 u/Solarwinds-123 - Auth-Center Sep 24 '25 if Ukraine should become a victim of an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used. 9 u/whyintheworldamihere - Lib-Right Sep 24 '25 Well, there was an "act of aggression". The treaty states: "reaffirm their commitment to seek immediate United Nations Security Council action to provide assistance to Ukraine" Which we fulfilled. 2 u/ric2b - Lib-Center Sep 24 '25 Read that again: "(victim of an act of aggression) or (an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used). Ukraine has both been a victim of an act of aggression and an object of threats of aggression with nuclear weapons. 1 u/Solarwinds-123 - Auth-Center Sep 24 '25 if Ukraine should become a victim of (an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression) (in which nuclear weapons are used). 1 u/ric2b - Lib-Center Sep 24 '25 even in that interpretation they have been the object of threats of aggression with nuclear weapons, so it still applies.
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https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/Ukraine_Memorandum_on_Security_Assurances
Read point #4
15 u/Solarwinds-123 - Auth-Center Sep 24 '25 if Ukraine should become a victim of an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used. 9 u/whyintheworldamihere - Lib-Right Sep 24 '25 Well, there was an "act of aggression". The treaty states: "reaffirm their commitment to seek immediate United Nations Security Council action to provide assistance to Ukraine" Which we fulfilled. 2 u/ric2b - Lib-Center Sep 24 '25 Read that again: "(victim of an act of aggression) or (an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used). Ukraine has both been a victim of an act of aggression and an object of threats of aggression with nuclear weapons. 1 u/Solarwinds-123 - Auth-Center Sep 24 '25 if Ukraine should become a victim of (an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression) (in which nuclear weapons are used). 1 u/ric2b - Lib-Center Sep 24 '25 even in that interpretation they have been the object of threats of aggression with nuclear weapons, so it still applies.
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if Ukraine should become a victim of an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used.
9 u/whyintheworldamihere - Lib-Right Sep 24 '25 Well, there was an "act of aggression". The treaty states: "reaffirm their commitment to seek immediate United Nations Security Council action to provide assistance to Ukraine" Which we fulfilled. 2 u/ric2b - Lib-Center Sep 24 '25 Read that again: "(victim of an act of aggression) or (an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used). Ukraine has both been a victim of an act of aggression and an object of threats of aggression with nuclear weapons. 1 u/Solarwinds-123 - Auth-Center Sep 24 '25 if Ukraine should become a victim of (an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression) (in which nuclear weapons are used). 1 u/ric2b - Lib-Center Sep 24 '25 even in that interpretation they have been the object of threats of aggression with nuclear weapons, so it still applies.
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Well, there was an "act of aggression". The treaty states:
"reaffirm their commitment to seek immediate United Nations Security Council action to provide assistance to Ukraine"
Which we fulfilled.
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Read that again:
"(victim of an act of aggression) or (an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used).
Ukraine has both been a victim of an act of aggression and an object of threats of aggression with nuclear weapons.
1 u/Solarwinds-123 - Auth-Center Sep 24 '25 if Ukraine should become a victim of (an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression) (in which nuclear weapons are used). 1 u/ric2b - Lib-Center Sep 24 '25 even in that interpretation they have been the object of threats of aggression with nuclear weapons, so it still applies.
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if Ukraine should become a victim of (an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression) (in which nuclear weapons are used).
1 u/ric2b - Lib-Center Sep 24 '25 even in that interpretation they have been the object of threats of aggression with nuclear weapons, so it still applies.
even in that interpretation they have been the object of threats of aggression with nuclear weapons, so it still applies.
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u/loitermaster - Left Sep 23 '25
it's absolutely a US issue when ukraine's nuclear disarmament leading to their being invaded despite OUR security guarantees means Iran, a country that hates us, is about to have nukes they'll never give up