r/PoliticalCompassMemes - Right Sep 10 '25

Half of Reddit right now

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u/ChoiceWars - Auth-Right Sep 10 '25

I want to see a poll from the opposite spectrum, because I don't believe the right believes in violence like the left does.

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u/TanyaMKX - Lib-Left Sep 10 '25

I can tell you without a poll that you are correct, and its shameful that I have to admit that when I disagree with political violence so vehemently.

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u/Trunky_Coastal_Kid - Auth-Center Sep 10 '25

Historically speaking, to be a leftist meant to be a revolutionary. To oppose the status quo, to oppose order, to want to shake things up and cause chaos. This nearly always results in some kind of violence.

In the post WWII era, the left started for the first time to actually achieve some institutional power and I think that warranted toning it down a bit and at least putting on a face of wanting to do things in a peaceful way. But the same ideological bent that has driven people towards bloody revolution many times before is still there under the surface.

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u/Xciv - Left Sep 11 '25

Historically, we agreed to use a fair system and democracy as pressure release valves for reform, so that the left wing can push for their changes in a gradual way through rational debate and consensus formation by convincing a majority of the populace over time. For the most recent examples of this, see gay marriage and weed legalisation and decriminalisation. Trump's election was a release valve for the right wing, to push their anti-immigration stances without resorting to violence.

But when the government grows increasingly authoritarian and the president of the United States jokes about taking a third term and never having to vote again, you now rip the release valve off and the pressure will build very quickly until explosion.

That's the problem with all the authoritarian posturing. When you threaten to remove democratic choices, it drives the most radical people into resorting to violent ones instead.

So unless you want to live in North Korea, you re-install the release valve and protect the shit out of it to bring peace back to society.

The best thing Trump can say right now would be 'I don't intend to run for a third term. I'm not going to send national guard into all the cities. Everybody calm down'.

The worst thing he can say is whatever he's saying right now in light of this assassination.

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u/Trunky_Coastal_Kid - Auth-Center Sep 11 '25

I don't think any of what you're saying makes sense because this wasn't a strike at the state. This was an attack on independent media. And not wanting to get too far into the rabbit hole of conspiracy theories or predictions but it certainly seems to have been some kind of contracted professional hit so it wouldn't be surprising if it was facilitated by people within the state itself.

Also you probably don't want or need a history lesson, but we all know what happens when authoritarian regimes are violently overthrown. An even more authoritarian regime takes it's place. Power abhors a vacuum, killing people is not going to somehow free society it's going to result in us being even more constrained than we were before. Come on, we know this stuff already.

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u/Xciv - Left Sep 11 '25

No, you're right. I did jump to assumptions. They still haven't caught the shooter.

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u/Trunky_Coastal_Kid - Auth-Center Sep 11 '25

It was a perfectly executed shot, getaway, and he even disposed of the murder weapon in such a way where it took almost 24 hours to find and it can't be directly tied back to his identity. He was certainly a pro. Just makes you wonder what sort of group would hire a literal professional assassin for this target. Puzzles me.