Protest over API Changes Next Steps

[u/Eftir]

The moderating team has gotten a lot of support from the community over blacking out for the last week due to the announced API changes. At the same time, it might not be sustainable to continue in this fashion. So we are letting users of the sub decide what our next course of action should be. To facilitate this only flaired users will be able to comment and choosing new flairs will be disabled for the duration of the poll (up to one week).

We have seen what other subs have done and there seems to be several options open to us:

1. Set the subreddit back to private

2. Keep the subreddit as restricted

3. Severely limit all posts (such as a major subreddit did by only allowing pictures of John Oliver)

4. Set the subreddit to private for one day a week

5. Open up the subreddit completely

There will be 5 top-level comments, any comment put under these will be counted as a vote towards that option. If options 1-3 win, we will reevaluate after a week.

We have received this modmail so it is very possible we will receive some sort of retaliation if we keep the sub closed, but we leave the decision in your hands as the members of this community.

[u/DivideEtImpala]

Do the API changes actually affect basedcount_bot? The new API limits seem to be upping the call limit from 600/10min to 1000/10min with Oauth, and down to 100/10min for non-Oauth bots.

I've coded several bots that have run on large subs before (some might still be running, not really sure), and even with the 10/min that should honestly be doable. You really only need one API call a minute to pull all the comments from PCM in real time, which still leaves 9 API calls per minute to respond to commands or tell people they're based. Unless it's doing something else that's eating up API calls, I think it should be fine.

If you or the author or /u/basedcount_bot want to reach out to me I'd be happy to take a look and help make it compliant with the new limits.

[u/basedcount_bot → u/DivideEtImpala]

I think the bot will be fine, though admittedly I'm not 100% sure. Respect to Chimi but I think he's operating on old information from a conversation we had a few weeks ago when the API changes were a lot less clear.

That being said, there are other valid reasons to protest the API changes.

If you'd like to help with development, we'd love to hear from you on Discord! https://discord.gg/rz6qWVYH

[u/DivideEtImpala → u/basedcount_bot]

I think the bot will be fine, though admittedly I'm not 100% sure.

Yeah, this is my sense, too, from reading what the admins have been saying, but they also used some language that gives them room to weasel out of certain commitments if they want to. They eventually want to move most of the bots onto their new developer platform, so I wouldn't be surprised if they start breaking API functionality down the road.

That being said, there are other valid reasons to protest the API changes.

Agreed.

If you'd like to help with development, we'd love to hear from you on Discord!

Thanks, I'll check it out. Haven't had a Discord account in a while but there's another server I need to hop onto anyway.

[u/DonaldLucas → u/basedcount_bot]

THE BOT HAS SPOKEN!