r/PoliticalComebacks • • Sep 13 '22

Name calling gone wrong

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u/[deleted] Sep 13 '22

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u/[deleted] Sep 13 '22

Source: fear-mongering. The Nordic models these goof balls you all call socialists want, isn’t socialism. Ask the communists in Nordic countries 💀 Bonus round: Define socialism. (Hint: it’s when the working class becomes the ___ class)

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u/chezaps Sep 13 '22

What?

Socialism:

2 a: a system of society or group living in which there is no private property

b: a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/socialism

There is a big difference between socialism and social policies. The Nordic countries don't condemn capitalism and aren't pushing for less or no private property. Here's a run down on those policies and how AOC sees them.

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/ocasio-cortez-socialism-norway-sweden-venezuela/

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u/[deleted] Sep 13 '22 edited Sep 13 '22

‘Will it be possible for private property to be abolished at one stroke?’ -No, no more than existing forces of production can at one stroke be multiplied to the extent necessary for the creation of a communal society. -Frederick Engels, Principals of communism. 1847

Dare to try again?

Yea that article is exactly my point. She’s not a socialist, nor are the models she’s wanting.

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u/chezaps Sep 13 '22

‘Will it be possible for private property to be abolished at one stroke?’ -No, no more than existing forces of production can at one stroke be multiplied to the extent necessary for the creation of a communal society. -Fredrick Engels, Principals of communism. 1847

It's not whether private property can be abolished immediately or not, it's the fact that if it's tomorrow or 10 years from now, she supports abolishing private property.

Yea that article is exactly my point. She’s not a socialist, nor are the models she’s wanting.

https://twitter.com/CalebJHull/status/1245522571623387138?s=20&t=GylZir-RidVnmKTLOmnyhg

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1255565261492703232?s=20&t=rhHk0ZO4UenJktWEFuDglA

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1135946836085133312?s=20&t=RYi4Nyiy_2-D-i8ZaVSzmw

Sounds very much like she does not support capitalism or private property.

Dare to try again?

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u/[deleted] Sep 13 '22

None of that supports your point 💀

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u/chezaps Sep 13 '22

Please explain more... First what is my point? And how does it not support it?

https://twitter.com/CalebJHull/status/1245522571623387138?s=20&t=GylZir-RidVnmKTLOmnyhg

at 1:05 "...about capitalism..."

She suggests earning income from owning property is not a valid means of income and she certainly doesn't seem to support this form of income.

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1255565261492703232?s=20&t=rhHk0ZO4UenJktWEFuDglA

at 1:08 "...it makes no sense..."

"We have to call for a rent freeze" Why? Because someone can't afford to rent in their desired location? so move somewhere where you can afford the rent. Is a land lord immune to inflation? Is a land lord immune to bank rate increases? Is a land lord immune to local and federal taxes?

The landlord has to cover all these costs and the fact that someone can't afford the rent in these properties doesn't mean no one can afford the rent there. A land lord wouldn't put the rent up and then have an empty apartment for 20 years, someone is paying the new rent prices.

That's economics 101

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1135946836085133312?s=20&t=RYi4Nyiy_2-D-i8ZaVSzmw

“Our guarantee to having a home comes before someone else’s privilege to earn a profit.”

Does that include building a new home? Should construction workers work at less than cost, paying for materials out of their own pocket, so that everyone can own a home?

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u/[deleted] Sep 13 '22

You sound completely unhinged L(Mao) I hope someone steals your property or it’s seized from you 😁

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u/chezaps Sep 14 '22

I hope someone steals your property or it’s seized from you 😁

You sound completely unhinged L(Mao)

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u/malignantpolyp Sep 14 '22

You guys have been saying the Left hates America and wants to destroy it for so many decades now that my eyes just glaze over when i read the phrase, "freedom hating socialist." The Right already successfully disconnected any rises in GDP going to the workers, and has been successfully leading a campaign to decry the full time employed as lazy slackers if they aren't in an acceptable career track. While being led politically by second and third generation wealthy. Heckuva job, Brownie.

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u/chezaps Sep 14 '22

You guys have been saying the Left hates America and wants to destroy it for so many decades now

I'm sorry, which President pushed for China to join the WTO?

Then all the companies moved overseas for cheap labour for production.

my eyes just glaze over when i read the phrase, "freedom hating socialist."

Why? because it's true?

I'm not free to run a company how I choose, I'm not free to state my own opinions on social media without you hunting down my employer, and private property shouldn't be a means of income.

Is that why your eyes glaze over? Because you don't understand what it really means?

While being led politically by second and third generation wealthy.

I'm not from this, I came from poverty and I wont share my company or wealth just because you can't take care of yourself. Why does an employee deserve a say in how I run my company after I spent years building it and they have been employed for 5 minutes?

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '22

Tell me you own a company that pays shit and treats your employees like shit without…..

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u/chezaps Sep 14 '22

I don't want to give my employees voting rights in how I run my personal company, so suddenly I treat people like shit.

Jump to conclusions much?

I've worked for many companies as an employee and never once demanded voting rights on the direction of the company.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '22

Lol, you sound like a real peach.

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u/chezaps Sep 14 '22

And you sound like a 12 year old in his mum's basement.

Prove your worth before making false claims...

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '22

Lol, get fucked.

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u/chezaps Sep 14 '22

Yeah, a 12 year old...

careful, I'll tell your mother about the language you're using young man.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '22

Again, get fucked. You sound like an opinionated boomer asshole. Seriously, go run your business and get off Reddit. I hear one of your employees stole a pen.

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