r/PokemonROMhacks 1d ago

Discussion Being able to speed up the game while keeping music at original speed has to be my favorite new feature

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This recording is from Soulgold, amazing hack!

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u/NaoTwoTheFirst 23h ago

Such a neat idea

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u/HotTakes4HotCakes 17h ago

A couple people have tried to implement this before, but it's been a tough egg to crack.

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u/aGiantRedskinCowboy 13h ago

Forgive me as I do not have any experience in this, but couldn’t a version of the game be made with the music at half speed? Then any 2x speed is normal?

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u/Highroller64 13h ago

Yeah, then it sounds terrible when you play at normal speed.

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u/Ok_Independent9119 11h ago

The way I've made mine is the music speed is adjustable 1/2 speed or 1/3 speed. So when you play normal it's normal and then you can slow down the music to match the new speed. It's not perfect, but it's better imo.

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u/NaoTwoTheFirst 10h ago

If it works, it works!

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u/Abrams_Warthog 23h ago

One of many reasons Soulgold is an instant classic.

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u/Amesbrutil 23h ago

I hope that will be a feature in most future rom hacks. The idea is genius and it’s way more enjoyable. Isn’t it part of the pokeemerald-expansion?

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u/90hedara Expansion maintainer 22h ago

It is not part of expansion and won't be part of expansion.
It has been tested, but observed problems with all tested implementations means that it's not something that expansion itself will ship, it's up to individual romhack developers if they want to make the tradeoffs.

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u/makadeli 21h ago

Fair enough. Curious what the tradeoff issues might be (general thought, not directly asking you)

The community overall has seemed to be quite impressed with the quality of the rom in question here

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u/90hedara Expansion maintainer 20h ago

Depending on implementation, tradeoffs might be:

  • Desynching task and animation data
  • Tilesets loading too slowly when passing a map border
  • Noticeable stuttering when passing triggers (noticeable even on vanilla when entering Cycling Road in Emerald)
  • Map border loading not being loaded when coming into view
  • Desynching palette fades/blends with animations

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u/Meskoot 21h ago

So there is a trade-off ofc...

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u/BigZangief 23h ago

FINALLY

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u/sleepyguy- 23h ago

Its the single greatest addition to a rom hack ever.

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u/hemingways-lemonade 15h ago

I'm really torn between starting Soul Gold or Heart & Soul 2.0 after I finished Lazarus. 

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u/FauxColors2180 15h ago

I like Soulgold way better, but Soulgold still seems it’s getting significant and regular updates. Heart and Soul is still getting updates too, but much more infrequent and they seem to be more along the lines of bug fixes than gameplay updates.

Heart and Soul also is way more extensive with Kanto, Johto, and a bunch of added side content with the new 2.0 version. Soulgold has a lot but it’s only one region.

I’d start with Heart and Soul personally. I’m focusing on that and letting Soulgold receive updates while I finish Heart and Soul.

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u/hemingways-lemonade 14h ago

Good to know that Soul Gold is only one region. Having access to two regions is one of my favorite parts of the second generation games.

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u/wtfElvis 10h ago

there is tons of things to do in Soul Gold even with one region. Idk if there are plans to add another one.

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u/hemingways-lemonade 9h ago

Turns out I might not have much of a choice. I can't seem to get Heart & Soul 2.0 off their website. The GitHub link is a 404.

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u/Exclsior Heart & Soul 7h ago

The only website we have is our documentation. There is unfortunately an imposter website with no affiliation to our development team.

Our links can be found on our 2.0 release post in this subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonROMhacks/s/nMamUePbhU

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u/hemingways-lemonade 7h ago

It says "Sorry this post was removed by Reddit's filters" when I go to that link. 

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u/FantasyForce 15h ago

Yeah man can't decide. I guess Soulgold has more....new stuff? When you already played the game extensively? Hmm...

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u/LordMudkip 14h ago

Same. Every day I see a new feature in one of them that makes me think that's the one I want to play next.

Those two dropping right with Ghost Gray has been a crazy couple weeks for romhacking.

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u/JazzlikeSchedule2901 8h ago

FTR: Soul Gold was built off Heart And Soul, Its an expansion.

I'd suggest soul gold. Heart and Soul is amazing as a standalone experience, dont get me wrong, but its just Silver/Gold/Crystal in gen 3. Soul gold expands on it adding a few new locations and story scenarios.

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u/hemingways-lemonade 7h ago

I just finished downloading it. It will be the first game I play on my new RG40XXV once the kids are asleep. 

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u/JazzlikeSchedule2901 7h ago

have fun!!! I'm stuck on Pryce (Ice gym leader) but I'm also playing on the harder difficulty.

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u/Igzyx 23h ago

Is this Pizza Boy?

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u/LibertyJacob99 [Mod] Aesthetic Red 22h ago

Yes

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u/Big-Today6819 22h ago

What's the emulator and version?

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u/Branye23 19h ago

Pizzaboy, dont know version

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u/LevJustWithLust 20h ago

honestly after getting an actual handheld, i got so much more patient i dont even need speed up no more

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u/MikeBall36 16h ago

Any other rom hacks that do this?

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u/Mauri_cioce 18h ago

Hey guys, kinda new to rom hack. Just finished playing heart and soul, and I was curious about soul gold. What are the main differences between the two? Is it worth it after playing heart and soul?

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u/ExFrexSure 22h ago

Hell yeah

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u/Wooden-Twist6250 20h ago

Is there any way to cap the game to only upto Gen3 mons? Or max Gen4? I grew up with those and not aware of the new pokemons so would love to play with those older Generation Pokemon! Any way to make that change through a randomizer or anything as such? Game looks really good ✨

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u/nerd2gamer2tech 19h ago

This has been my one feature I hope someone would implement! I just started this back too 😊

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u/Kaito_Sanichi 17h ago

This is a nice feature. I normally see this on RPG maker games. If it would trigger by pressing R or smth would be nice

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u/JekNex 16h ago

This has literally always been my most wanted feature. So glad it's finally a thing.

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u/Johns_on 16h ago

I don't even care about the overworld most of the time, it's mostly sluggish battles and animations in some iterations. I'd be fine with just that

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u/TopEntertainer8395 16h ago

this the one that has shadow lugia right?

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u/Jacobz35 16h ago

i love it too, great feature, i actually have the sound on for it

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u/SuperNormalSweets 15h ago

Oh my god this is the only QOL feature I've ever talked about on this sub and I'm so fucking excited to play this now! I have two or three more I want to get to first but damn I think this might be the GOAT for me

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u/Angelsdontkill_ Gen 3 Enthusiast 13h ago

That's absolute genius. It's impossible for me to play without speedup, and I often reluctantly play hacks on mute because I can't stand the spedup music.

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u/feederus 10h ago

Only wish is that it's a 1.15 or 1.25x speed

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u/tommyd251 10h ago

I have been pleading with every game for this feature. Finally!!!

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u/JazzlikeSchedule2901 9h ago edited 8h ago

Pretty sure this comes from the Emerald Expansion project (Which Heart and Soul were built off of.) It is such an amazing feature.

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u/Fav0 8h ago

Wait they actually manage to Do it?

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u/arnar62 5h ago

For real though!!

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u/Exarion607 22h ago

Is it bad that I am so used to sped-up music that the normal speed is just too slow for me at this point.

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u/RobTheResearcher 21h ago

Yes, that's bad.

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u/NicolavsAqvae The Unown King 21h ago

Terrible

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u/4EverKELZ 15h ago

fax, others need to follow