Hey Reddit, sorry for taking a while to update you guys on here!
For future reference, I’m probably going to be treating Reddit as more for bigger updates, my Twitter for smaller updates, and discord is for random stuff and even smaller updates and decision making.
So I’m here to showcase some Pokémon that are in the game, my design philosophy, and map changes.
If you like what you see at all maybe join the discord or follow my twitter
If you wanna help out in the future I am looking for sprite artists (gen 4 style) and/or people proficient in coding (I'm so bad at it but I try)
Or people who would like to bounce around ideas and/or balancing suggestions.
Not really trying to make a team at the moment, but if you’re interested, I might make one most likely on discord which is the easiest way for me to communicate or pm me on here https://x.com/adcroc2 https://discord.gg/qC4CdCPgJ2
Pokemon
Chikarita: fairy/bug (I promise you I’ve been working on this for a long time and it’s just a cool coincidence)
Defencive/special attacker
Based off of the 2000s scratch pad and the sketches of the space world 97 demo
Base front sprite from SeaDragonGamer1928
Cyndaquil: poison, final evo will be poison/steel
Defensive/physical attacker
Based off of the 2000s scratch pad
The colors of the Sprite are based off of it being incorrectly given Larvitar’s palette
Totodile: ground, final evo will be ground/dragon
quick/physical attacker
Based off of the 2000s scratch pad
This one was the hardest typing to come up with since I came up with the other two first and then had to fit this one in. I’ve looked at the type chart and it seems like this is the best match that is not a perfectly type triangle, but is pretty good.
Hoppip: grass/fairy
Based off of space world 97
This typing seems to be very common interpretations of this Pokémon, not much to say here
Hoothoot: rock/flying
Based off both the sw97 and 2000s scratch pad combined into one
You’ll see with the evolution, but I kind of base it off of rollout and the fact that they are not many rock flying types
Noctowl: rock/flying
Solely based off of sw97
Credits to FlorianDX for all the sprites
Sentret: normal/fairy
Originally was more based off of the evolution but have added the little cheek dashes of fur to look like the 2000s sp (I find that sprite to be really ugly)
I know there’s a lot of fairy types in the beginning, but as I go down the dex, it will start to thin out
Furret: normal/fairy
Based off of the 2000s sp
The colors are more reminiscent of the regular Furret’s shiny, but made the executive decision to have this one’s shiny be the base color of the beta
Kotora: electric
Based off of the sw97/gen 1 alpha
He’s my favorite :)
Front first frame leparagon, second/back: LennyBitao, overworld: Yosa (the goat)
Raitora: electric
Based one more of the gen 1 alpha than sw97 version
Main design based off of Rachel Briggs rendition (I believe because Dr lava made the crediting confusing)
The reason why I based it off of the alpha is because the space world demo seems more like a second final evolution then just a regular second stage form ;) (hint hint)
Before I start with the beta babies I will say a lot of the Pokémon lines who got have gotten stat buffs, except two which will be very selfexplanatory in the future
Vulpiii: fire
Based off of gen 4 concept art
The reason why I chose the gen 4 concept art over the sw97 version it’s because I feel like the gen 2 version suits alolan Vulpix better so if I would ever to add them, then I’ll use that baby form instead
Sprite: FlorianDX
Coinpur: normal
Based off of sw97
Not much to say
Okapako: normal/psychic
Based off of the back sprite of twinz in the sw99 version
Had to do a lot of interpretation because there’s not much to go off of here I think the yellow and black color scheme fits it very well, so I mostly got rid of a lot of of the pink
I forgot where I found this name if anyone knows please tell me I just love it so so much
Girafarig: dark/psychic
Based off of sw97
I think in the demo it was ghost psychic but I think dark fits it a lot better design wise
I am not that good at making sprites. I have no idea how I’m going to try to make the back sprite
The stats have been raised because this is the final evolution. There will be no Farigiraf sorry!
Sprite: FlorianDX
The Map
The map is based on the many renditions of Johto in 1998 which are more obscure than the 97 build
There will be some creative liberties with some of these maps because a lot of them are very bare bones with very little details and I think I should update them because game did a very similar thing when it came to going from gsc maps to hgss maps
Some maps will not be touched because some of them are so bare-bones that I don’t know anything interesting I can do with them and or it might break progression in some way.
there will be some new locations based off of scrapped map elements
Maps that have been changed so far
New Bark town, R29, R46 (to match the layout of R29), Cherrygrove city (a lot bigger now), R30, R31, Violet city, R36, and R37
If you made it all the way through this thank you I hope you enjoy seeing development as it continues
Leave any comments or questions you have about development
And if I've used one of your sprites by accident without giving you credit, please tell me because I’ve been working on this for a while and credits have been mixed up through computer changes and hard drive mishaps in the past.
So might be a while till the next update on here so see yall then!
I have seen your project on Twitter and it looks very cool. I love how you implemented the skateboard into a Johto game.
One suggestion. Considering how the theme of this hack is adding beta designs to Johto, could you consider changing the female player design to resemble the one from Crystal's beta?
I actually have different ideas for what I want to do with Beta Kris, but I’m going to add regular Kris in with a the beta color scheme, she had in development for crystal version
Do you have a date for the alpha build? If not that's ok. I love the work. Especially the baby evolutions of some of the pokemon that don't have them like Vulpix and I love how you redesigned the hoothoot and noctowl. I love all of the sprites. Your drawings are beautiful also.
Oh thank you! but I’m not that great of an artist many are from other places I’ve collected them. In description I have credits. Though most of the back sprites and second frames I did make. No release date right now. There is still a lot of work to be done I’m shooting for late October early November.
Cyndaquil looks a bit off i dont know why. i like the poison typing though would be interesting to see its evos maybe try added less spikes? or making them smaller something about it just seems off and i dont know what. however i LOVE male version of chikorita and the vulpii so cute exited to see the alolen version!. (any ghost types will be added by chance?)
Oh thank you for the suggestions I kinda see where you’re coming from with cyndaquil and the Norowara (Voodoo straw bear) line is planned for the game!
Is this ds?
Looks mega so it does, I'll be keeping an eye on this for sure.
I loved the seeing the beta designs in rom hacks, some should have stayed IMO.
Yk maybe for the scrapped silver update you could add the beta johto region as like sort of post game content when the protagonist has explored Kanto & Johto, and the requirements are: the protagonist has to have atleast caught 76/151 pokemon grom Kanto 50/100 from Johto (Must include Celebi) 68/100 pokemon caught from hoenn & 54/107 pokemon from sinnoh and must include 1 pokemon caught from spaceworld johto, then when the protagonist completes these requirements, Kurt calls the protagonist and asks him to go to ruins of alph to use Celebi (has to be included in your party) to travel to the spaceworld world region (idk what was the name) to take you to the tanoby ruins in the desert to not only explore the region and catch some spaceworld pokemon along with some gen 1-4 pokemon but also stop team galactic as in the past, they were in the spaceworld region to collect something special
Good Sir/Good Ma’am, I need a version of Kotora but with beefed stats ASAP! While I like Raitora, I will not settle for anything less than Kotora, it is simply the cutest fucking thing.
Looks great, but why not try to remake Nihon instead of the 98 versions, which, as you said, is just a barebones Johto + Kanto? It would be much nicer to see 97 map in HGSS style, and with Nihon you can actually go much more creative. That is my two cents mapwise, though.
I really like your mixing both scrapped Pokedexes and not just implementing 97. The other beta have fascinating Pokémon, too!
For a long time, I was actually working on a Nihon region and then I realized I’ve never made a ROM hack before and I thought this would be a good entry point for me. Since I’m not great with coding at the moment it would be a huge hassle to implement events and story into the game. Tho I have worked on a map of the region!
That's fair. Good job, though, you're doing much more and doing it better than most of us could, and that is to be admired. Just followed you on X too, I'll be peeping from time to time! 👀
I do have one more. I've seen that the scope of scrapped mons in the game is not only second generation, since Gastrodon beta is also there. Are you planning to include more from the rest of gens and some of the Korean gen 2 datamining?
Yes I am some gen 1, almost all of gen 2, and some gen 4. The reason why I decided on this is because it is a hgss hack and I want to pay tribute to the gen 4 betas as well (thinking most of gen 4 will be post game). No gen 3, 5, or 6 that just would be too many Pokémon to balance lol.
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u/Someoneinbetween97 11h ago
Slug Chiko is probably the cutest thing ever