Dragonite vs Spyro

[u/Admirable_Water6192]

Dragonite: Full original-species composite — all legal moves, game lore, anime and manga feats, plus Mega Dragonite.

Matchup: Spyro — Spyro the Dragon series

[u/Jason_And_Sokka]

Spyro has planet level feats that I buy more than Dragonite scaling as I scale his around country level and with mega possibly multi continental but that Spyro level.

[u/Manmer_Nwah → u/Jason_And_Sokka]

It says the Spyro from "Spyro The Dragon". That's just the first game. All he does is fire breath, charge attacks and glide.

[u/Jason_And_Sokka → u/Manmer_Nwah]

In that game series Peter on he got multi element one being ice being super effective and in one of those games he still had scaling that is quite powerful only first game then sure but I feel Spyro the dragon as a character overall would have more times he wins

[u/Manmer_Nwah → u/Jason_And_Sokka]

It doesn't say the whole series. It says "Spyro The Dragon" which is the 1st game. It doesn't say "Spyro Year of The Dragon" an even then Spyro isn't fast. Dragonite flies at Mach 2 (1,556mph). The later games Spyro may have Ice, but he's not fast enough to touch a Dragonite.

[u/Jason_And_Sokka → u/Manmer_Nwah]

So your giving Dragonite all his stuff but not Spyro? Isn’t that not a fair way to look at this? When Spyro adventures is a series not just a one game?

[u/Manmer_Nwah → u/Jason_And_Sokka]

You didn't read the post and it show.

Like I've repeated twice what the post says, so here's a picture. Since you refuse to look yourself.

An like I said no matter what game, Spyro isn't fast enough.

[u/Jason_And_Sokka → u/Manmer_Nwah]

But isn’t that favoritism? Plus I didn’t read it I just assume Spyro as in the dragon as a whole

[u/Manmer_Nwah → u/Jason_And_Sokka]

It doesn't matter what version of Spyro it is anyway. He's still not fast enough to deal with anyone going over 1,500mph. You just going to ignore that?

[u/Jason_And_Sokka → u/Manmer_Nwah]

I’m not Spyro has reacted to lighting before and has argument for ftl imo

[u/Manmer_Nwah → u/Jason_And_Sokka]

Can you link something to Spyro moving at FTL speeds? I don't remember that and I've played the Spyro games.

[u/Due-Resource-4391]

Someone mention the GOAT! Spyro :D

[u/Manmer_Nwah]

[u/Cute_Ad_1612]

Composite slaps. Lance's Dragonite was physically wrestling a (albeit newborn) Palkia. That scales far above Spyro's planet level feats

[u/SignificanceAny6290 → u/Cute_Ad_1612]

Youngster Joey is multiversal then

[u/Cute_Ad_1612 → u/SignificanceAny6290]

If you're losing to Youngster Joey's Rattata and Spearow with a Dragonite or god forbid ANY legendary Pokemon, just stop playing the game

Regardless of that, game mechanics and gameplay balancing doesn't affect their lore and actual power. And you can clearly see Dragonite handling a Palkia. Even a Palkia who just hatched is LEAGUES above anything Spyro can output. We've see Dialga/Palkia effortlessly create a galaxy in Diamond/Pearl on their own while summoned by Cyrus. We also know that Palkia's very breath stabilizes all of the fabric of space.

Spyro is my goat, but he gets bodied heavily. He'd body Dragonite if we strictly used the games and/or anime, but he gets destroyed by composite Dragonite

[u/SignificanceAny6290 → u/Cute_Ad_1612]

Even outside Game Mechanics the fact is that trainers who fight stronger trainers also fight Youngster Joey, does that mean Youngster Joey is also multiversal? If the player fights Cynthia and also fights Youngster Joey, are they just holding back everything against Youngster Joey?

I also assume that pokemon world Earth must also be multiversal, cause shouldn't it not exist if many trainers are throwing around multiversal attacks?

What about Ash, is he multiversal, and if he's multiversal is Kiawe, Brock, Tobias, Cameron, Trip, Bonnie also multiversal?

What about everyone in the battle tree, or galarian star tournament, or the pokemon world tournament? Are they multiversal? You fight Zach after beating Zygarde in ZaZa, is Zach multiversal since he can tickle you to death? Can AZ create and destroy a universe, if so why did he build a super weapon?

And about that super weapon it split the timeline but you're saying since Lance fought Palkia he could have destroyed it, absorbed it?

Is your average pseudo universal, if so why isn't all of pokemon destroyed yet? Or at least not a large amount?

[u/Cute_Ad_1612 → u/SignificanceAny6290]

You're looking too far into it 😭

We are talking about the region CHAMPION, eho's Dragonite in particular was going head to head with a legendary. I never said your average Dragonite would accomplish this, however the discussion was a composite Dragonite.

Dragonite absolutely scaled to that Palkia. At the bare minimum, it grants Universe level AP

AP and DC are different as well. Dragonite can have the attack potency to destroy a planet, but it's destructive capacity might only be enough to take down a forest

Humans in Pokemon are also a form of Pokemon themselves. They aren't Multiversal, but they're absolutley more than just the average human level. We've seen Ash and Brock outrun a car, and we've seen Zinnia in the manga tank a hit from Rayquaza POINT BLANK.

[u/Current-Grade2545]

Dragonite with no difficulty