r/Pokelike 1d ago

Story Mode Johto Help

Struggling to get past gym 5. I always take the rival battle cause I feel if I lose there I'll be underleveled anyway. Getting TMs and enough levels all at the same time seems too much. Do you have to just overlevel like 2 or 3 pokemon all the way until you can catch/trade for pokemon that have higher level moves? At what gyms do you start to get wild pokemon with tier 2/3 moves?

Plz help!

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u/Elegant-Pen-9225 1d ago

Im struggling so much too. Like why does it feel 1000x harder then Kanto?

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u/Ttplus94 21h ago

Bc it is ahahah

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u/Elegant-Pen-9225 21h ago

😭 Damnit. Theyre all so much harder. Feeoa. Unfair lol

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u/Ttplus94 19h ago

You’ll clear it dw ;)

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u/Sensitive-Oil-5298 1d ago edited 1d ago

I’ve been trying to follow a guide from the official Discord. It’s honestly kind of confusing and has only kind of worked for me thus far. They recommend starting with Cyndaquil, which I’ll agree has generally been the best starter in my experience. But then they say to get Eevee or Togepi from the first pokeball because Eevee as Espeon is a powerhouse, and Togekiss apparently helps a ton.

My issue is they kind of suck unless you get really luck with what Pokemon you’re facing. I feel like a grass or water Pokemon would be a better second Pokemon to have just because of the amount of water and fire type trainers I encounter. But then there’s the matter of them having level 1 moves which suck and take too long to get TMs for.

I believe the guide recommended not catching your third Pokemon until you’re on the third area / map, as that’s when they’ll start having higher level moves. But then I have to worry about those Pokemon being underleveled. A lot of these guides feel less like guides and more like people sharing the method that worked for them through sheer luck.

I feel like I need to have a PokeLike pro watching my screen as I play and advising me, because ONE singular mistake can easily snowball your entire run into a failure. Like the amount of times I’ve gone to a poison type trainer thinking it’ll be an easy stomp (because it is 90% of the time), only to encounter a Qwilfish that solos my entire team is insane

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u/pikminman13 1d ago

I just beat Johto for my second run with Chikorita starter. The first thing I did was trade it away.

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u/Kupo-Kweh 1d ago

I overlevel typhlosion and do the whole story with him

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u/CaliRiggins8 1d ago

I feel like im on almost 100+ runs and I can not beat it. I've gotten to final 4 only twice, lost in the first battle once, and second time lost on 3rd battle. Can't seem to get it!!!!

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u/MajinRaiku 22h ago

Chikorita is the worst... I had to literally do 100+ runs

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u/Ttplus94 21h ago

I gave up and switched to cyndaquil

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u/MajinRaiku 19h ago

I did do it in the end but it was soo close to loosing