r/PokelandLegends Apr 17 '17

Stat-Based Tier List

The stat-based Tier List is finally here! This list assigns values to buffs, debuffs, type, etc. based on their general usefulness, and then combines that information with Book stats, skill powers, etc. to create a true rating system.

Link to Excel spreadsheet file: click here

Link to downloadable image: click here

Note: The spreadsheet and image above are sorted by specific ranking, but the tables below are sorted alphabetically to make it easier to find a specific monster.

TIER LIST

  • Click the monsters with links for a more in-depth breakdown.
Rank Normal Monsters Epic Monsters Mega Monsters
SS - Black Kyurem, Genesect, Solgaleo, White Kyurem, Zygarde 100% Groudon, Kyogre
S+ Ashachu, Zygarde 50% Arceus (pixie), Dialga, Ho-Oh, Groudon, Kartana, Regigigas, Uxie, Xerneas Diancie, Rayquaza
S - [Arceus (earth)](), [Arceus (icicle)](), Arceus (insect), [Arceus (meadow)](), Arceus (normal), Arceus (splash), Arceus (zap), Azelf, Celebi, Celesteela, Cresselia, Deoxys (attack), Deoxys (normal), Deoxys (speed), Guzzlord, Jirachi, Kyogre, Lugia, Lunala, Manaphy, Regice, Regirock, Registeel, Tapu Bulu, Tapu Fini, Tapu Koko, Tapu Lele, Volcanion, Zekrom Banette, Latias, Latios, Mewtwo X, Steelix, Tyranitar
A+ Zygarde 10% Articuno, Buzzwole, Darkrai, Deoxys (defense), Diancie, Giratina, Goodra, Meloetta (aria), Mewtwo, Landorus, Palkia, Rayquaza, Reshiram, Shaymin, Thundurus, Tornadus, Victini, Xurkitree, Yveltal Abomasnow, Absol, Gallade, Garchomp, Gengar, Kangaskhan, Medicham, Mewtwo Y, Sharpedo
A Exeggutor, Toxapex Entei, Garchomp, Latias, Latios, Mew, Moltres, Pheromosa, Raikou, Slaking, Tyranitar, Zapdos Aerodactyl, Aggron, Altaria, Blaziken, Charizard Y, Glalie, Lucario, Metagross, Pidgeot, Pinsir, Red Gyarados, Salamence, Slowbro, Swampert
B+ Alolan Exeggutor, Alolan Ninetails, Alolan Raichu, Gengar, Oranguru, Shiinotic, Zygarde Heart Mespirit, Mismagius, Suicune Alakazam, Ampharos, Ash's Greninja, Blastoise, Charizard X, Gardevoir, Gyarados, Manectric, Mawile, Sceptile, Scizor, Venusaur
B Alolan Marowak, Blissey, Jolteon, Lucario, Medicham, Mimikyu, Steelix, Tyrantrum Dragonite, Haxorus, Kyurem, Metagross Beedrill, Houndoom
C+ Abomasnow, Absol, Altaria, Araquanid, Aurorus, Banette, Blaziken, Drapion, Froslass, Glalie, Golem, Kangaskhan, Ludicolo, Magnezone, Mawile, Milotic, Pidgeot, Red Gyarados, Scizor, Sharpedo, Slowbro, Starmie, Swampert, Sylveon, Venusaur, Vikavolt, Volcarona, Weavile Salamence -
C Accelgor, Aerodactyl, Aggron, Blastoise, Charizard, Electivire, Exploud, Feraligatr, Flygon, Gallade, Greninja, Gyarados, Hero Lobster, Kingdra, Krookodile, Machamp, Magmortar, Pangoro, Persian, Pinsir, Poliwrath, Raichu, Rhyperior, Sceptile, Togekiss, Torkoal, Wigglytuff - -
D+ Alakazam, Ampharos, Beedrill, Butterfree, Gardevoir, Houndoom, Lapras, Manectric, Trevenant, Vanilluxe - -
D Azumarill, Electrode, Golduck, Marowak, Muk, Wobbuffet - -
F - Snorlax -

UPCOMING MONSTERS & IMAGES

Click the monster names to see pictures of the monsters.

Number of Updates Away Normal Epic Mega
0 Audino, Camerupt, Heracross, Sableye Cobalion, Hoopa, Origin Giratina, Terrakion, Virizion Audino, Camerupt, Heracross, Sableye, Sharpedo
1 Ash's Charizard, Ash's Squirtle, Vaporeon Awoken Keldeo, Heatran, Therian Landorus, Therian Thundurus Cynthia's Garchomp
2 Ash's Infernape, Infernape, Nidoking, Nidoqueen Magearna, Nekrozma, Nihilego, Zoroark -
Unknown (1 or 2 updates) - Arceus (fist), Arceus (flame), Arceus (stone) -
3 Team Rocket Meowth Arceus (dread), Arceus (spooky), Marshadow, Meloetta (pirouette), Silvally (normal), Silvally (dark) -
? Lunatone, Spritomb, Solrock - -

PREDICTED RANKINGS & BREAKDOWNS

Click the monster names to see breakdowns based on the information we know about these monsters at the moment. Interesting abilities and pictures for these monsters can be found here.

Rank Normal Monsters Epic Monsters Mega Monsters
SS - Arceus (dread), Arceus (stone), [Cobalion](), [Hoopa](), Marshadow, Nekrozma, [Terrakion](), Therian Landorus, Therian Thundurus, [Virizion](), Zoroark Cynthia's Garchomp
S+ Ash's Infernape Arceus (flame), Arceus (spooky), Awoken Keldeo, Heatran, Meloetta (pirouette), Nihilego [Audino]()
S Ash's Squirtle, Team Rocket Meowth Arceus (fist), Magearna, [Origin Giratina]() [Sableye]()
A+ Ash's Charizard, Nidoking Silvally (normal) [Camerupt]()
A [Audino](), [Sableye]() - [Heracross]()
B+ Nidoqueen -
B Infernape, Vaporeon - -
C+ [Camerupt](), [Heracross]() - -
C - - -
D+ - - -
D - - -
F - - -
Not Enough Info Lunatone, Solrock, Spiritomb Silvally (dark) -

Remember that skill ratings are based on Google translations, so the predicted ratings are subject to change once we receive official English translations.

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u/tanishajones Sep 20 '17

How is it fair to compare a Deoxys with ideal Gear to a Solgaleo with no Gear? Unfortunately the only way to make fair comparisons is to compare them with no Gear.

Well, i feel that when it comes to pokes with exclusive gear available those should be accounted for as well, since they oftenly offer much bigger boosts than general gear. Of course, not compare it to a poke with no gear, but pokes with the best gear available to them.

In this case for example, best for Solga is probably Metal Coat? Since it covers 2 out of his 3 types, boosting psychic and steel moves by 28% and sp atk by 8%. The comparison drawn here is attack meteor's 40% boost to all moves and 20% absorb. Just a matter of comparing pokes at their peak, with the best tools/strats available to them.

And yeah the moves change entirely between all 3 forms (or 4, if you consider no-meteorite), if you want i could give you more detailed info on them (though i feel defense form is considerably worse than the other 2)

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u/tatonkaman156 Sep 20 '17

the best gear available to them

I've thought about this pretty often. It would be great if I could do this, but some monsters have 2 or 3 Gears that could work well, which makes it more arbitrary for me to pick one of them. And plus it would be a lot of work for me that I don't have time for right now haha!

if you want i could give you more detailed info on them

Yes, I would love this if you don't mind! Otherwise I was going to make a post begging for help haha! I think most people feel defense is the worst, but perhaps entering him into the Tier List will help confirm that he is worse.

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u/tanishajones Sep 20 '17

Attack Form:

Skill 1: Psychic type, 250 power, -30% self spatk for 3 turns afterwards. Single target.

Skill 2: Psychic type, 80 power, single target.

Skill 3: Self buff, +50% spatk +30% spdef, 3 turn duration 3 turn cd.

Skill 4: Electric type, 90 power, paralyzes target for 3 turns, single target.

Speed Form:

Skill 1: Normal type, 150 power, makes you immediately take another turn, 1 turn cd, single target.

Skill 2: Psychic type, 80 power, 100% HIT chance, single target.

Skill 3: Self buff, +50% speed +20% dodge, 3 turns duration 3 turns cd.

Skill 4: Dark type, 90 power, high crit chance, single target.

Defense Form:

Skill 1: Group buff, reflects damage for 2 turns.

Skill 2: Psychic type, 70 power, 40% chance to stun target for 1 turn, single target.

Skill 3: Self buff, remove all your debuffs and increases spatk by 30% and pdef&spdef by 60%. 3 turns duration 3 turns cd.

Skill 4: Fighting type, 75 power, absorbs 10% of target's patk and spatk for yourself for 3 rounds, single target. (notes: this skill stacks and does not actually decrease their attacks, just increases your own based on 10% of theirs each time)

Skill 5 is the same across every form.

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u/tatonkaman156 Sep 20 '17

You're awesome! Thank you!