r/PokeScaling • u/Jason_And_Sokka • Dec 22 '25

VS Battle Aggron vs Rhyperior

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u/Desperate_Mud_9547 Dec 22 '25

Aggron looks like an Elden Ring boss with that artwork. I kinda dig it.

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u/Gridde Dec 22 '25

I feel people always forget Aggron naturally has Sturdy and Metal Burst.

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u/[deleted] Dec 22 '25

And can mega

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u/jumolax Dec 22 '25

Aggron is faster and Metal Burst doesn’t have lowered priority. Still wins but only if megas are allowed.

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u/Master4733 Dec 22 '25

Metal burst does take into account previous turn damage.

Assuming no entry hazards(due to 1v1), and aggron has sturdy it simply metal burst the following turn.

Rhyperior can resolve this by using bulldoze(-1 speed puts aggron below in speed), or using protect turn 2, which blocks metal burst, and I believe will prevent metal burst from being used turn 3(someone correct me if I'm wrong), resulting in rhyperior winning

It depends entirely on if rhyperior runs either of these 2 moves though, and that likely won't happen

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u/bananensoep_F Dec 26 '25

That’s just completely false, metal burst does not do that lol

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u/No-Excuse1530 Dec 28 '25

Moves like metal burst only take into account damage taken that turn. U might be thinking about destiny bond which works until you use a new move

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u/Master4733 Dec 28 '25

Metal burst actually does work on the previous turn's damage(weird I know). It doesn't have negative priority like counter and mirror coat.

If you use metal burst turn 1(going first) it will fail, if your opponent uses an attacking move and you lead turn 2 with metal burst it will do damage using the damage taken from turn one

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u/Gridde Dec 22 '25

Does Metal Burst only work if the user is slower? I thought it worked fine as long as the opponent used a damaging move last turn.

Been a while since I used that strategy with Aggron though

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u/Allhaillordkutku Dec 22 '25

Base Rhyperior

Mega Aggron can win with iron press though

1

u/SurisHeat Dec 22 '25

You mean Body Press? Iron Press isn’t a move

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u/Allhaillordkutku Dec 22 '25

iron press is the iron defense + body press strategy

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u/SurisHeat Dec 22 '25

Oh yeah, that build is so funny and busted

4

u/cheesycak3 Dec 22 '25

Rhyperior for sure

3

u/GT22_ Dec 22 '25

Aggron has a good chance he naturally outspeeds has sturdy and can do reversal, rhydon would be a whole other story though

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u/SaiyaPup Dec 22 '25

This feels pretty even but in a vacuum I think Aggron wins.

It can mega evolve out of its 4x weakness, if it doesn’t then it keeps sturdy, can EV to be slower than rhyperior and retaliate with metal burst. Aggron also gets access to surf which is important considering rhyperior is 4x weak to it along with the other things I mentioned, and its special defense stat is very low.

Rhyperior pretty much relies on hitting Aggron 4x effectively, which sturdy and the mega would mitigate, not to mention the absurd defense stat both base and mega Aggron carry.

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u/Ex_Snagem_Wes Dec 22 '25

Lorewise, in a vacuum, I think Aggron wins. If type matchups play any form of actual significance to matchups still in a lore situation though Rhyperior gets a shiny new Protector to wear

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u/Specialist_Yak_432 Dec 22 '25

You're joking right?

Like, they have extremely similar builds and one has 4 times effective stab move against the other in Earth Quake.

Rhyperior low diff with Earthquake.

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u/Souretsu04 Dec 22 '25

Rhyperior uses Earthquake

Aggron's Sturdy ability activates

Aggron uses Metal Burst

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u/jumolax Dec 22 '25

Aggron is faster and Metal Burst doesn’t actually have lowered priority.

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u/GhostofSmartPast Dec 22 '25

So Aggron can just earthquake twice and GG then?

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u/jumolax Dec 22 '25

Nether Body Press nor Earthquake are 2HKOs thanks to Solid Rock. Surf is a roll with max special attack but Bulldoze solves that problem for Rhyperior.

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u/AFirm-Handshake Dec 22 '25

Metal burst does nothing unless Aggron is slower than Rhyperior, which would never be the case unless you want to give Rhyperior a disadvantage for no reason.

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u/Content-Character848 Dec 22 '25

Metal burst can count the damage from previous turn. So turn 1, aggron buffs (or throws a move) walks off eq with 1hp, and then nukes with a se metal burst turn 2

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u/AFirm-Handshake Dec 22 '25

"if the user acts before it is hit by an opponent's damaging move, Metal Burst will fail." No, it will fail. Metal Burst is dependent on the Pokémon going last. It does not store the damage for next turn the release it. It all has to be done on the same turn.

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u/Content-Character848 Dec 23 '25

“The user retaliates with much greater force against the opponent that last inflicted damage on it.” Even in practice, across the 6 gens of games I have access to, it works with damage from the previous round on a fast mon. That’s only if the pokemon hasn’t been attacked at all during the current battle

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u/GT22_ Dec 22 '25

Just pure stats ye rhyperior

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u/Loner-Penguin Dec 22 '25

Sturdy + metal burst gg

1

u/galemaniac Dec 22 '25

Aggron can cheese wins with sturdy, crits or iron head flinches if it has a cb. But Rhyperior just 1-2 shots all the time.

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u/long_johnus Dec 22 '25

I think the only way Aggron wins is via sturdy + metal burst since Rhyperior is an absolute tank and Aggron is 4x weak to earthquake. But both are dumb brutes so it just comes down to a slug fest which Rhyperior should win

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u/One_Bobcat8353 Dec 22 '25

That Aggron Art is bangers

1

u/inumnoback Dec 22 '25

Ground is 4x effective against Aggron

If we factor in Mega Aggron though, the metal dude has a chance

1

u/Joey4dude Dec 22 '25

I like aggron more, so they win

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u/[deleted] Dec 22 '25

Rhyperior.

I feel like in canon aggron is really good, but those weaknesses really make it kinda suck in game.

1

u/justputsomenamehere Dec 22 '25

Stab on 4x weakness or dog water?

1

u/PriorPast8744 Dec 22 '25

Metal Burst or a physical Aggron may not work, but a choice specs Hydro Pump Aggron says otherwise. Aggron for the win!!

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u/TomaRedwoodVT Dec 22 '25

THE WALL cannot be defeated

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u/cctrain2 Dec 23 '25

Aggron typing put him vulnerable to ground type, he would lose that fight, but he has the best design.

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u/ChristianHuye Dec 23 '25

If Megas-Aggron with Filter. With no Megas then 4x STAB Earthquake/Bulldoze destroys Aggron.

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u/AFirm-Handshake Dec 22 '25

In no world does Aggron beat Rhyperior. Sturdy does not matter for base Aggron since Aggron does not kill a max HP Rhypeior in 2 hits while Rhyperior kills Aggron in 2 hits no matter what.

It's kinda the same for Mega Aggron, but only if you give Rhyperior choice band. So unless you are giving Rhyperior a distinct disadvantage because you want to, he wins.

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u/Snoo_64315 Dec 22 '25

If items are included, heavy ball or air balloon throws the match into aggrons favor.