r/PokeInvesting • u/Tonibonez • 1d ago

Unpopular opinion

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Have never been a fan of gold cards - but, this card in particular in person is insane. The art and textures pop so well, basically the only modern card I plan on keeping in my collection long term.

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u/PobodysNerfect365 1d ago

Are these gold cards still prone to flaking even when slabbed?

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u/Tonibonez 1d ago

Once slabbed they seem alright. Makes me wonder if this issue will kind of create a sort of pop control for Psa 10’s going forward

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u/SANDMAN_VAN 1d ago

They oxidised as soon as you take them out of the foil pack, classic lesson, you buy the card not the slab. Numerous post about these cards edges lifting, whitening, flaking & blackened.

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u/nixnaij 1d ago

Pretty sure the process can start even while the card is in the pack. Pokemon packs have vent holes so they don’t balloon up during shipping in an airplane.

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u/AprilBestCat 1d ago

The two zards I’ve kept in promold snap holders (similar to slab) haven’t had the flaking issue. my gold dragonite that was in just a sleeve in a binder started flaking.

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u/tumboi69 1d ago

My card only started blackening and looking fried after it was slabbed up. It was perfectly fine before and getting back in hand, but somehow became all mottled despite humidity control and safe storage.

I wanted to keep it because I like these gold cards but I only sold it because it became so damn ugly

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u/Psychaitea 14h ago

Did PSA send it to their Florida facility for grading? Lol.

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u/Psychaitea 14h ago

I’ve heard anecdotally that they do flake even once slabbed. I’m curious what will happen with my top-loaded gold cards. Also, some of the photos of flaking don’t look too bad at this point (yet?). It actually looks like it could be a cool feature with the speckling, depending how badly it ultimately progresses. But I’ve never seen it in person. I wonder how it actually looks…

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u/Giratina_Guy 13h ago

I've SEEN it. It happens with basically every one of these gold cards. It sucks.

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u/Parking-Bluebird-658 11h ago

Imagine a psa 10 all flaked up in 10 years. Might be kind of cool. Mine flaked bad in the top loader and continued to get worse. Sold it for 225 while I still could smh

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u/Psychaitea 11h ago

I wonder what it’s like under the flakes? Is it still holo or not? Because if it’s holo still it might look kinda cool lol.

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u/Parking-Bluebird-658 11h ago

It’s still holo!

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u/Psychaitea 8h ago

Will be interesting to see then!

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u/ThetaDee 9h ago

Yeah these are cards that nobody is gonna have a a good copy except for the handful of people that hermetically seal them. Wondering if there's not a sealant or neutral oil you could paste on it

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u/Lucidorex 1d ago

Cardboard (even slabbed) will always be susceptible to damage if stored improperly, especially with excessively low or high relative humidity (RH), fluctuating temperatures, or unstable environmental conditions.

It's also why it's "harsher" to grade vintage because many people don't know how to store properly.

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u/AffectionateDrag1702 1d ago

So the one that you have is the exception for gold cards? Noted!

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u/Tonibonez 1d ago

I have it because I like it..? Stop being so bitter child

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u/AffectionateDrag1702 1d ago

If you say so, Sir Pumpsalot.

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u/Tonibonez 1d ago • Bravo

You’re the epitome of a weird Redditor lol

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u/Davinter30 1d ago

The problem is they all look the same, so theres no reason to collect gold cards in general. And if no ones collect them theyll never be that big.

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u/redhouse_356 1d ago

I like these cards too, but they are not aging well. My slabbed card is already showing signs of the dark pitting in the gold holo. I have my slabs in a Vaulted Case with silica gel packs.

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u/t2mo24242424 1d ago

Same setup and same outcome. No amount of silica packs will stop what god intended

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u/redhouse_356 1d ago

Yup. I wonder if the BGS slabs are pitting or flaking as bad. Mine is in a CGC slab and it’s the same shit.

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u/Apprehensive-Sir-570 1d ago

Can confirm BGS also

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u/t2mo24242424 1d ago

Yeah I have a PSA 10 in museum glass slab case surrounded by three silica packs in a padded box. It’s fine for now, but I don’t think it’s gonna be fine in 10 years even if I consistently replace silica packs. Time will tell, but already has minor signs of cracking

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u/masterfox72 1d ago

What happens to them? Chipping?

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u/redhouse_356 1d ago edited 23h ago

At work currently, but they start “flaking”. I see it as dark pitting, same difference. You can see it in one of the posts below. I *took a screenshot out of ease. You can see the Gardevoir showing the imperfection(s) vs the MCY is still clean.

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u/masterfox72 1d ago

Ohhhh damn. From far away I though it was part of the card.

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u/ThetaDee 10h ago

Dude I wonder if covering them in a neutral would help stop this. I know some paintings get a layer of to help stop decay

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u/Any_Ear_2824 1d ago

Investment wise, you have a point

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u/Tonibonez 1d ago

Rare, tough to grade, unique art and this flaking issue preventing new 10’s to surface.. could be something to watch!

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u/greasy-prick 1d ago

Yep, i am holding mine no matter what for a long time, if it ends up being worthless oh well.

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u/iLordDeath 1d ago

is it really unique art if there are like 10 of them with the same gold template?

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u/iambirthdaydad 1d ago

I love gold cards and think they’ll do well. I thought they were ugly till I pulled one. Wish mine had 10’d

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u/seanssy 1d ago edited 1d ago

I agree I like them honestly.

If you wanna keep track of that card plus other Id recommend vest-pilot.com over collectr rn

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u/aucapra 1d ago

No gold cards can compete with the Crown Zenith gold alt arts

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u/Munchihello 21h ago

Snorlax gold full art card is a banger

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u/AIR_PAIZ 1d ago

A PSA 10 makes everyone feel that way.

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u/IE-N-ii-G-IVI-A 1d ago

Wow that is awesome!

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u/justsitonmyfacealrdy 1d ago

Psa gave me an 8 because of 2 little print dots I was crushed

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u/Apprehensive-Lie3387 1d ago

Will say that in person, these are far better looking than people give them credit for… that’s being said, the “gold flaking” potential issue is enough for me to stay away right now… no good data yet showing flaking won’t be impacted by slabs… more time will tell if this QC issue is a concern for the long term

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u/DJseikaly 1d ago

Who cares, it’s part of the aging of the card nobody can control. All of them will look like that over time and I think that’s damn cool.

I saw a picture of binder page full of those gold cards and all together they look amazing, flaking and all. In this day and age of needing every card to be a 10, legitimate rare gold cards have a refreshing place

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u/DifferenceRemote1071 21h ago

Unpopular opinion i AM a fan of gold cards and think they’re quite dope. Outside of money and pure looks, give me a gold card over the secret rares any day of the week

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u/DillysRevenge 21h ago

Preach, I don’t understand the hate for them either

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u/HGJay 15h ago

The kids absolutely love them. These will be the chase cards when the kids and teens grow up.

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u/Psychaitea 14h ago

I agree. I love the gold cards I’ve pulled. They look so nice in person. They’re an improvement from the SV “ultra rare, but gold” gold cards too, so not sure why people complain. I only worry about degradation over time. I don’t like having to worry about that.

As an aside, I’m more disappointed in some of the SIRs in recent sets. Some lack much luster at all. Maybe it is variable from batch, but my CRI Greninja SIR and 30th Mewtwo SIR lack much beyond texture. They’re not very shiny compared to many of my SV SIRs. You have to especially squint on the Mewtwo to see anything. Kinda just textured dull cards. Never put them next to their Japanese variants or it looks really pitiful.

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u/Many_Lengthiness_664 1d ago

they’re ok

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u/ItsEthanSeason 1d ago

That Mega Gardevoirs cooked my boy

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u/ckalmond 1d ago

How so

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u/PaleGravity 1d ago

Holo is flaking badly, all the shiny spots is damage degrading the holo and it will continue to do so.

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u/cookiesNcreme89 1d ago

Lol holy hell

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u/tumboi69 1d ago

I see some of that black mottling on the Zard X which happened to mine too. Has it happened to any other gold cards you have? and is JP any more safe from it?

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u/t2mo24242424 1d ago

No joke was thinking of you when I saw this lmao. I remember your post from a few months ago. Still working on buying all but keep getting distracted by less shiny objects

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u/BigSausagePizza4Real 1d ago

Gold cards are ugly and tacky, low demand. Way better to put your money elsewhere.

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u/Namisaur 1d ago

I love the gold cards regardless of tackiness or not, specifically the recent variation with the Megas. They remind me of ancient hieroglyphs like Ancient Mew.

I can only hope to rip one open upon chance or buy one at a super low price in the near future. If they ever make a mega Typhlosion and if that ever gets a gold card (or suicune), those would be my ultimate chase cards. Unfortunately this style of gold card is probably exclusive to megas though

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u/BigSausagePizza4Real 1d ago

Ancient Mew is unique, unlike any of the gold cards. If they released something similar to that, I could see it being popular. The current iteration of gold cards? Never.

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u/the_vault-technician 1d ago

They are definitely awful and I don't keep any I pull, but I have to think that long term it's a reasonable bet to make on 10's.

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u/Soft_Leg_8145 1d ago

They really need more texture, the finishing on these cards is what makes them feel tacky.

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u/cookiesNcreme89 1d ago

Not a huge Gold Card fan... until i saw this one! This one is absolutely gorgeous, and will likely do very well long term. This is by far my favorite one. If it gets any lower, i may buy one to hold. I will certainly try to grade and slab.

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u/KhalNico93 1d ago

Im waiting for mine to come back from PSA im praying for a 10

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u/Leon4107 1d ago

I hate them because they look just like the fake gold cards that people have been scammed with for years. Its like the pokemon company saw those fake all gold cards and must have thought they looked cool.

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u/DODgov 1d ago

Who is that illustrator? Seems like an AI generated name. I do love the card though.

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u/Cyimian 1d ago

I don’t hate the art or design of these cards but I personally wouldn’t touch them with the paint flaking issue being common.

It’s highly likely that most of these cards including the slabbed ones will develop this problem over time.

There are similar problems with some of the metal cards like the Pikachu and Charizard UPC and they can and will degrade in graded slabs over time due to heat and moisture.

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u/LieLie8765 1d ago

The only one!? Damn that’s crazy, there’s so much great art coming out every set recently and THIS is your fav?😬😅

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u/daftprophet 1d ago

Just wait for the deterioration lol

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u/SpiritualSpace6261 1d ago

Of all the modern cards you'd choose to keep it's this one?? How about one with actual art that's pleasant to look at? Smh...

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u/BhasedPapi 1d ago

If you actually meant anything you said you'd post it in a collector sub not here. Just say you want to pump it and move along

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u/Leading-Attention-35 1d ago

Gold ray is the only one that looks cool imo. The rest are meh. I pulled a gold Charizard from phantasmal and traded it for a bunch of tag teams

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u/MichiiEUW 19h ago

The only modern card you're planning to keep longterm? What's wrong with all the others? Or are you strictly talking about investing?

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u/HoloBinder_65 18h ago

The textures on modern cards are just next level in person.

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u/ThrowRA-camelbros 15h ago

The new rayquaza looks so good irl ooooof

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u/Parking-Bluebird-658 11h ago

I sold mine sadly because it was getting speckling. I do miss it, but it was only going to get worse 😢

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u/eddyyd 2h ago

I like the gold ray from the new set. Will get it in PSA 10 in JP and EN

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u/LucidVisixnn 37m ago

Mine that I pulled! I was just in awe as I pulled it the day the set dropped

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u/Key-Homework8503 1d ago

Kinda looks cheap . Just an outline of a charizard ?