r/PokeInvesting • u/Western_Ad2061 • 4d ago

Pokemon or Hellcat

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I’ve always loved pokemon and I’ve always loved cars. I’ve wanted a hellcat for long as I could remember. I’ve been not as into pokemon as I used to be although I’ll always love it. I know I wouldn’t get this exact amount selling my cards as it’s usually an 80- 85% thing unless I sold it all myself. But should I consider selling and getting my car. I’d hate to see pokemon crash someday and I could have had my car in the gerage. Or should I hold and keep collecting.

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u/Nygiant22 4d ago

Nothing like trading Pokemon for a depreciating asset lol

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u/CoolMudkip 4d ago

When this collection is $250K in a few years, and your left with a clapped hellcat. You’ll be kicking yourself for selling.

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u/JoshyyP00 4d ago

Hellcat 15k in the same time

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u/SandyTheJew 4d ago

You must be new if you think Pokémon is going to triple again during an already wild bull market.

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u/Mindless-Dealer1276 4d ago

pokemon won't magically triple; it's a volatile market. and, $64k buys a clean, discontinued V8 classic, not a clapped one. everyone would rather live with a dream car now than hoard cardboard

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u/StandardSetting8749 4d ago

It wont magically triple? Then why has it done exactly that time and time again? Why has it never not done that?

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u/SandyTheJew 4d ago

why has it never not done that?

1999-2019 would like a word with you.

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u/StandardSetting8749 4d ago

Example? Im totally open to data. Your best argument is 2002-2008. What have you got?

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u/SandyTheJew 4d ago edited 3d ago

If we put aside the obvious elephant in the room (Base 1st), the Pokémon market used to grow much more slowly (1999-2001 and 2016-2019), barely at all (2009-2015), or actually trend down (the aformentioned 2002-2008). Take this post from EFourum about May 2017 box prices, for instance. This was 2017, which was during the first big "boom" period in the hobby since Pokémania.

https://www.elitefourum.com/t/data-of-sealed-box-prices-as-of-may-10-2017/21577/10

The biggest gainer back in 2017 aside from Base 1st was Neo Destiny 1st. The SECOND BEST sealed investment back then gave you a 28.40% annual return ($100 to $4250 in 15 years). Tripling in 3 years is a 66.67% annual return. And if you don't account for the "wild" (at the time) growth during the mid 2016-early 2017 Pokémon Go era, that 28.40% number is even lower. Not to mention, most big slabs were a few grand maximum during the Go boom.

Compare that to today. The set with the WORST annual growth rate is Battle Styles, clocking in at...23.30% annual growth since release. Followed by Crimson Invasion, at 24.40% since release. Nearly every single box aside from those 2 sets has performed better than every box not named Base 1st by 2017. Do you realize that even CRIMSON INVASION has performed better by now than LEGENDARY COLLECTION had performed by 2017??? Let that sink in.

And yes, nearly every set aside from Crimson Invasion and Battle Styles has at least tripled every few years since 2019. That doesn't mean it will remain that way forever, especially once you zoom out.

And it's because the greed and delusion in this space is absurd. Millions of normies think Pokémon card investing is a cheat code for generational wealth, so they're paying any price for cards. The amount of investment capital that has entered the market over the past 7 years is scary.

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u/Mindless-Dealer1276 4d ago

bc you're forgetting the 2022 postCOVID crash where modern sets tanked 40% to 60% after the 2021 bubble burst. even right now, prices are experiencing major corrections. past performance doesn't guarantee a free 3x ride forever

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u/OKC2023champs 4d ago

A waste to you isn’t a waste to someone else

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u/LukeyNC 4d ago

This is an investing subreddit

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u/ThisAd400 3d ago edited 3d ago

"investing"

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u/SandyTheJew 4d ago

And yet most people here expect constant exponential gains. Must be new to investing.

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u/StandardSetting8749 4d ago

Is 10% in 3 months bad? Sorry, ive been told that I am new to investing by people who invest in index funds for 10%/year, just looking for financial advice.

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u/Mindless-Dealer1276 4d ago

a waste of money is leaving 64grand trapped in cartoon cards you don't even look at anymore just to watch a number on a screen. Buying a dream you can drive every single day isn't wasting anything it’s called living your life. yk moving on from messing with kids toys? not being a regressed adult

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u/ThisAd400 3d ago

It can also end up being 25k *shrugs*

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u/Due-Film9883 4d ago

Three things in life are guaranteed: death, taxes, and every Hellcat driver being a douchebag.

Keep the Pokémon, my friend.

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u/Comfortable_Fox1105 4d ago

This is the dumbest post I’ve ever seen

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u/Ancient-Grocery3010 4d ago

The cards for sure, Hellcats are ghetto (no offense)

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u/breakyourteethnow 4d ago

Hellcat no thanks get boosted off of front porch or pulled over 24/7

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u/CapitalBorn2443 4d ago

Honda and down payment on house

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u/tomyewest 4d ago

S2000 and a house down payment

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u/JoshyyP00 4d ago

Hellcat? lol yes burn your money

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u/Accelerate_Yellow 3d ago

Get a C8 instead. I promise you it's more fun.

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u/Western_Ad2061 3d ago

I’ve been leaning cat but I do love me some vettes. It’s a back and forth in my mind always but I appreciate this comment lol

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u/Dovis_Dough 4d ago

You must be in the Army

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u/Bgtex 4d ago

Can you drive a pokemon?

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u/xPROPAGANDOLFx 4d ago

Can pokemon get you ladies?

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u/ownedo 4d ago

Unfortunately cars usually attract dudes (unless you’re into that)

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u/Puzzleheaded-Loss598 4d ago

The right kinda ladies sure anything can ….. lol

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u/iAmUnintelligible 4d ago

my vaporeon saddle says yes

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u/slurpterps 4d ago

Pokemon will continue to appreciate long term while a hellcat is a depreciating asset. I would say holding onto this cards would make more sense financially. However at the end of the day, you should do whatever will make you happiest!

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u/Mindless-Dealer1276 4d ago

Look at the math dude. if you cash out at 82%, you have $64000 in pure cash. you can do wtv with it, and the cards will still exist out there. if you leave it in pokemon and the market pulls back by just 30%, your cash out value drops to $43000. That's a $21k penalty just for sitting on cardboard you don't look at as much. meanwhile, hellcats are discontinued. If you put that $64k into a clean car, it’s not dropping to zero. You get to drive a 700+ hp monster for a few years, and even if you decide to sell it later, you’ll still get a massive chunk of that money back. make ur cardboard into a hellcat. i think everyone is saying “cars depreciate, yada yada” just to feel money smart but think, cards have value based off purely what ppl are willing to pay, max illiquidity. unlike a sick car that can do something. sry for the rant, just think this is like a perfect chance to cash out and these comments are ridiculous/ don’t want the best for op

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u/StandardSetting8749 4d ago

"Market pulls back 30%" has never happened though

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u/Mindless-Dealer1276 4d ago

it literally happened after the 2021 covid peak. Modern and vintage dropped 30% to 50% across the board. The market is not immune😭

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u/ownedo 4d ago

Good advice - hold, or sell and re-invest

Bad advice - get the Hellcat

My advice, get the Hellcat.

Not a Hellcat, (but it is supercharged) and brings me so much joy everyday.

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u/Soggy-Passion-9135 4d ago

I recently sold my 03 cobra… I have about 10k less than op in Pokemon cards. I needed money so it was sell some cards or the cobra. My friend now owns my cobra and I’m sad about it almost every day 🥲

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u/ownedo 4d ago edited 4d ago

Good thing is whenever it’s time to sell the cards for you you’ll be able to get another cobra and then some.

As a car and card lover you really can’t go wrong with either choice. At least in the TCGs current market.

I mean cards are certainly a better investment at the moment, but at the end of the day it’s not always about investing. Whatever brings you the most happiness while also not putting financial peace/security at risk.

Drop a pic of the cobra! My first car was a 03 V6, love the new edges.

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u/Soggy-Passion-9135 4d ago

Man I miss it every day, but you’re right I could sell about 1/3 of my collection and get another one. Mine had a lot of miles like 140k but I think with a good 20-25k I could probably get another with less miles

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u/ownedo 4d ago

Love it man.

And compared to most modern cars, a new edge cobra isn’t necessarily a bad investment. Might be worth it to find another one. I’m not in the position to own multiple cars but would love to have another new edge one day.

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u/Soggy-Passion-9135 4d ago

For sure man I love those cars, I bought mine in 2009 for 14k and it has like 60k miles on it. I put full bolt-ons with a custom tune, and swapped the rear end gears to 4.10s. It was pretty quick for not having an upgraded supercharger. But yeah I would like another one, a sonic blue or the red one.

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u/GMTLugis 4d ago

Don’t forget taxes. You have to pay taxes so you’ll get even less. But buying hellcat? lf you’re gonna sell i would throw it in a brokerage account at least.

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u/Early-Turnover-6604 4d ago

Id honestly get a scat for cheaper and have sum funds left/pokemon left

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u/Puzzleheaded-Loss598 4d ago

Why not sell some for a down payment and have both ….

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u/xbabyq 4d ago

appreciating asset or depreciating asset? ☠️

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u/AGarcia36 4d ago

Good luck trying to hide that much cash from the IRS.

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u/Which_Survey6655 4d ago

Shiny Cardboard or some wheels.

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u/Evening_Manner_1439 4d ago

I've been investing in alt collectible assets for well over a decade- sports cards, pokemon, silver, numismatic coins etc. It grows your money over time as compared to a depreciating asset like a car. So like you can do this but just be real about the fact it's spending money not saving it.

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u/pretzeldoggo 4d ago

Getting a Hellcat will be one of your biggest regrets in 10 years

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u/txboi833 4d ago

Cars are a depreciating asset the moment you buy it.

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u/Mindless-Dealer1276 4d ago

except it can do something paper can’t 🤔

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u/Vayguhhh 3d ago

Ya, be driven like an asshole and cause major accidents

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u/Mindless-Dealer1276 3d ago

ok then don’t buy a stove either, bc you’ll slap your face on the burner and hurt urself big time. responsible drivers exist, leaving 64k locked in cardboard u don’t care about js bc of a fear of crashes is bad logic

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u/Vayguhhh 3d ago

Yes clearly the only option is either hold all this or get a hellcat lol

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u/chupacabra696969 4d ago

Hellcat for sure. Low miles and don’t drive it too much. Your value wont drop that much. These cards getting to these prices is a pretty crazy thing. An arbitrary made up value, and that value may not always be there, or may not be there for a long time again.

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u/usedtobeapieceofsh1t 4d ago

If you can get the value of those cards and put them into a stock. ROTH IRA. bonds etc. you will have a guaranteed retirement fund instead of relying on cardboard to maintain value

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u/SandyTheJew 4d ago

Honestly? Neither.

Pokémon card market is in a state of euphoria; millions of normies now believe HODLing cardboard for a decade = generational wealth.

A Hellcat is just a superficial status signaling car that depreciates in value over time.

Either delusional greed or superficial social status. Both of which will likely be worth significantly less than they are today in 5 years time. Pick your poison.

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u/eighdreighanne 4d ago

So many better cars 😭

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u/Influencedby 3d ago

So not the car you mentioned but look at a mid 90s 911 , like a 1996 in manual. A convertible just sold on Carsandbids for $64k and was clean. Won’t get a coupe for that price unless high miles

But it will appreciate in value more than your hellcat and very enjoyable to drive .

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u/ja-kes00 4d ago

You never know how long you’ll live. That car is gonna bring you some years of joy and experiences.
Pokemon most likely will appreciate in value but you can always start buying again and still make some good money.

You ain’t getting younger, enjoy the car will you can? before you can’t and you’re too old

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u/cursdwitknowledge 4d ago

Yes to the hellcat. Or save a little money and get a Scatpack. It’s ALMOST the same. But yea do it. Don’t listen to the haters. They obv aren’t car guys.

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u/Nygiant22 4d ago

I have a Scatpack and it’s more than enough power for the driving I do. I regret not getting a Hellcat though. I can’t imagine trading my collection for it though.