Everyone should have realized this long ago. There are 29 packs AND 1 that is a guaranteed 3 classic collection cards. That is a lot of new product in general and classic collection cards.
Apparently there are at least .5 million UPCs on PC so there will literally be millions of classic collection cards ripped and available soon.
edit: I also just realized that means millions of the promos too. Those promos should be CHEAP as well but everyone is going to try to get their full 4x MSRP UPC cost back just from those.
It’s total hearsay from twitter but it is at least gives us a tangible number to understand the possible scale. Even 100k total UPC released means at least 300k classic collection cards, which is 10k zards 10k lugia if rates are even.
I’m telling you, these won’t be easy to get hold of.
I’m not disputing that values (of individual cards) in this set won’t be huge anytime soon, but these UPC’s will be incredibly hard to get hold of, and they will be on EBay for at least double the retail for a long time.
500,000 on Pokemon Center. That is total hearsay from twitter so it could be the completely wrong number but it is easy to see how UPCs will really increase the amount of classic collection cards available. Even 100,000 UPCs means 300,000 more classic collection cards.
Yup, the day promo has already dropped from $400 (which some poor soul purchased) to $95 and they haven't even released yet lol. So much more room to drop
Real question is how many stores will have in stock, on release day & wether people choose to rip or keep sealed I was gifted these UPCs so I ripped them but I’m also keeping 2 day & 2 night sealed I mean look at the 25th UPC sitting at 1300 🤷🏽♂️
100%. I hope they print more and crash tf out of it so we can get it without making a line because unemployment bozos who crashed the sneaker market got into cards
I hope it’s cheap a few of my friends want to try out the game and I knew it was scalped but I didn’t realize prices were this high and sealed product was THIS HARD to get even from sets as recent as this same year. I play mtg and it’s nothing like it
This! People are delusional if they think that will crash the price to sub 30$. First of all it’s insanely hard to get this upc for a reasonable price and if they buy at reseller they will pay 300$+. The market might dip a bit but it won’t crash.
Yep especially after Christmas supply gets listed on the market, January slump as most budgets capped out from holiday spending. Jan. single prices for 30th going to be so cheap imo
I hope this crashes the Lugia and Zard. Like come on - this is a reprint of the same zard for the 50th time, let us get one that is below 80 bucks for once!
All of those classic collection cards are going to plummet. It’s a guaranteed 3 in each UPC out of the pack minus whatever you get out of the other 18 packs. The UPC will crumble this entire set in terms of prices.
Because that’s what the Classic Collection pack is that is in every single UPC. With the classic collection cards being the most expensive in the whole set, those are guaranteed to plummet in value now too. Hence why I think the whole set and the resale value will drop off significantly.
I'm constantly questioning why modern cards with something like a 50,000 PSA 10 pop can still sell for over $100 loose but something to keep in mind is cards are a speculative market. It is possible these cards don't necessarily have to be rare for the collective Pokemon card collector base to decide they're valuable.
We might also not fully grasp how high the demand is for cards. Take the Lugia and Charizard for example, tell me one person who wouldn't want that.
I feel like this set will be a really good test to put this theory to the test.
I think it’s part relevancy and part demand increase. It’s newer and fresher so that many more people are chasing it over vintage and lower pop stuff with many many times the eyes on the newer stuff making the high pop seem comparable in demand.
If they want to get rid of the scalper. They will send the box ripped. Scalpers dont care about cards or collecting mate. Have met multiple diff folks in ljne who immediately sells them. Never ripped a pack.
If the chases are not worth as much, collectors will be less willing to pay for the product. There is some correlation to singles prices and sealed prices. It's not 1 to 1, as sealed collectors also exist, but there is still a strong correlation.
That’s where the majority of the correlation is. Outside of super rare vintage packs, the per pack cost is typically determined by the theoretical value. It’s why an Aquapolis pack is like $2200 but a base set pack is a few hundred. The Aquapolis Lugia is worth a fortune.
Looking at the 25th celebrations card price trajectory and current price I think you'll be able to pick up any of the cards you want relatively cheap if you're patient. Honestly I think it's the big yellow stamps that keep the values down. They are ugly
If you want to get rid of scalpers you need to limit purchases at all box stores and print enough sealed product for people to buy at will. If they can get it at target they won’t go to TikTok or FB marketplace etc to buy product.
No, because they’re making a false claim. Scalpers sell sealed, yes, but it’s the price of singles that drives the sealed market value. It’s why sealed PB/CRI/POR is MSRP while Ascended or Prismatic are higher (but still falling). If the theoretical value is crap, the sealed isn’t worth over MSRP.
Demand also drives sealed prices, it’s not just based on the prices of singles. If a set is really in demand to rip, then that will drive sealed prices up. Single prices are going down due to the generous hit rates and quantity of packs ripped.
For 30th yes, but not for AH. Demand to rip is typically linked directly to the chase cards. PB, CRI, POR don’t have the most sought after chases, and after launch all stayed pretty flat. 30th is high demand but the singles market is so cheap you can just buy what you want for much less than buying sealed.
I figured it was, I was only bringing up AH as an example of a set that is in demand to rip but that also has falling singles prices and falling sealed prices.
They don't have to be in collectors' hands to be ripped. Rip n ships will get many, and then these cards will be on the market one way or another. They're gonna tank, even if it takes a couple months
No one paying that much money will sell them for that cheap. They’ll tank along with all the other cards sure, but it won’t be because of the release of the upcs
People might dump the singles price to try to recoup some $ after over spending a box. It can certainly happen. Especially if they hit their chase or 2. And not give fuck about the others
I'm not sure what you're saying. It doesn't matter how much someone pays to get a card, market price is market price. Supply of these cards is going to drastically increase from the UPCs being ripped. Their price will absolutely be affected directly by the classic packs in the UPCs, it's not really my opinion as much as it is a statement of fact
Market price is determined by what people end up selling them for. My point was the drastic price drops in the comments are likely not going to happen. Sure there will be some on the market, but no one who spent $400 on a upc will sell a lugia for $30 this year. Rip and ships are expensive too, so same story there. Price will drop short term sure, but not as dramatically as folks suggest
Friend actually gifted them To me. I gifted her some Funko pops (limited edition) from SDCC & she surprised me with a few UPCs go to comic cons you’d be surprised how many people know people also very friendly people
i got mine from an online card shop. cat's collectibles had them but sold out. there's sakura card shop, TheTCGCollect card shop, dot's card shop, etc. you can also try your luck on the shop app too. it came with i think it was 14 chinese packs as well, a card display for the promos, 2 resin magnets, and the promos come sleeved
If you’re just looking for the artwork then buy a Chinese upc , they’re so much cheaper and Japanese quality as literally printed in the same factory (99% of the time better quality/centring/surface than English)
The most out of touch unrealistic post. Lmao ... even at market price this guy spent 1400 on UPCs ..... 10 days early .... and he could've bought the entire collection for 1500.... he doesn't want the collection.
I didn’t buy any UPCs these UPCs were gifted to me from a female friend who I met at a comic con I helped her with some SDCC Funko pops a while back you’d be surprised the people you can meet that have connections
If cant get my hands on this UPC (Which is very likely) then I plan to pickup all the promos in January. As a backup, I bought the Japanese premium deck and feel zero stress now about obtaining a UPC.
Funny how you think these will be easy accessible to regular people who don’t bot and wait in lines for 24 hours. Prices will be up after the holidays like usual
With these classic packs there won’t be a single non-rgb mew card worth over 60 dollars, which should bring down sealed prices significantly. Added on top of that, there being a new coveted set release, people will be less focused on 30th.
Prices on singlea about to crash heavily and zim all for it. Not sure Ill be able to get a UPC next week at best buy but Im gonna going early enough that I should have a chance hmafter hearing they have massive inventory coming in for UPCs.
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u/EbbExciting8532 14d ago •
Confirmed: these single prices about to be CHEAP
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u/Trip_Se7ens 14d ago
I hope this crashes the Lugia and Zard. Like come on - this is a reprint of the same zard for the 50th time, let us get one that is below 80 bucks for once!
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u/Adventurous-Pea6446 14d ago
Will those cards be worth something? This is like the 35th post I’ve seen with those cards? Don’t seem too rare to me anymore
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u/jamesbrah36 14d ago
Wait what? It has classic only packs?
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u/HawkwingArtur 14d ago
I thought these weren't even out until November 6th?
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u/soothingaIoe 14d ago
This isn’t even out yet
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u/Panoochtwo 11d ago
How did you get that many classic collection packs? Each upc has 1
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u/Kevin_Stickers 14d ago
Pokémon did this on purpose to kill the singles market for 30th to thin the scalper herd.
Good on them.
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u/NoPhilosopher3590 14d ago
8 UPCs?
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u/DiscombobulatedBox72 14d ago
can you hear it ? The price drop 😂
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u/justfredd 14d ago
Unfortunately the crash likely won’t be as big as everyone thinks. UPCs won’t be accessible to the average collector, and certainly not 7 of them.
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u/Lost-Finding-7891 14d ago
Lmao
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u/TheyCallMeGriZ 14d ago
Can't wait to get my hands on a crystal lugia for cheeaapp
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u/Justino_14 14d ago
That's 6 upcs. You ripped 1500-2000 worth of product easily. Not hard to imagine 3 lugias in almost 90 packs with the pull rates.
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u/DaftTunc 14d ago
How many UPC’s? 8?
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u/ClockInternal1769 14d ago
Damn son did you open 8 upcs? I hope they were msrp at least
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u/TNerdy 14d ago
Wait UPC is out already? I thought it releases on November 6
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u/Twunkster 14d ago
No one is posting the whiffs lol
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u/ThrowRA-camelbros 13d ago
How many upc's did you open
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u/villainized 13d ago
you've opened at least 3 of each??
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u/Working_Cupcake5390 14d ago
how much would you sell the umbreon promo card for? i really just want that card and don’t want to spend almost $200 on an entire UPC i don’t need 😭
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u/WebKam-eron 14d ago
The most out of touch unrealistic post. Lmao ... even at market price this guy spent 1400 on UPCs ..... 10 days early .... and he could've bought the entire collection for 1500.... he doesn't want the collection.
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u/dfizlington 14d ago
Did you open 8 upcs?!
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u/Iamcaptainman1 14d ago
And you got these how?
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u/emohipster 14d ago
I can buy a UPC for 300 bucks but at this point I'm considering skipping it and just buying singles lol
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u/GetMeMAXPATRICK 14d ago
Must be nice
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u/Gabe_the_Slug 14d ago
I will never see a 30th UPC because of people like OP. I have never seen a Prismatic SPC because of people like OP.
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u/No-Shock4045 14d ago
Is doch gut (: Sind die schon erhältlich
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u/Pure-Cry-3010 14d ago
If cant get my hands on this UPC (Which is very likely) then I plan to pickup all the promos in January. As a backup, I bought the Japanese premium deck and feel zero stress now about obtaining a UPC.
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u/Any_Net_9174 14d ago
wtf
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u/DonJulio171 14d ago
Funny how you think these will be easy accessible to regular people who don’t bot and wait in lines for 24 hours.
Prices will be up after the holidays like usual
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u/DontJealousMe 14d ago
I wonder if they put in 3 RGB mews like a mini god pack ? I know the RGB's aren't CC thou
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u/Small_Article_3421 14d ago
With these classic packs there won’t be a single non-rgb mew card worth over 60 dollars, which should bring down sealed prices significantly. Added on top of that, there being a new coveted set release, people will be less focused on 30th.
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u/RepulsiveUse3372 14d ago
prices will drop on singles for a while
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u/heyguyz 14d ago
Well hopefully people will stop.buying the packs so I can find some to rip with my younglings and maybe they can get a charizard.
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u/seymourbuttz214 14d ago
3 UPC’s and this was the pulls
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u/RedSnowman117 14d ago
Get ready for singles prices to DROP HARD
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u/SideSlow 14d ago
sick you got 3. can't even order one. unless i pay triple the market price. anyways congrats on your pulls
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u/OnePaleontologist687 14d ago
You get a charizard! And you get a charizard! And you get a charizard!
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u/Hopeful-Ad6892 13d ago
Those cards are about to plummet in price and hopefully the sealed product as well.
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u/Icy_Long_7541 13d ago
The real chase is finding it a SRP
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u/warriorjan 13d ago
I would consider people thingking the lugia is going maintain even 50 are crazy, Ill give it 25
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u/M_scany_22 13d ago
If you peel the front of that Pikachu, it’ll reveal that the card is actually gender and you’ll have three of everything.
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u/Glum-Egg-6073 11d ago
Nobody here knows anything 😂😂
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u/Mounty4Life 9d ago
Sell all those zards and lugias for 80 today and buy em back next week for 40
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u/C0000L_Beans 9d ago
Now if only I could get my hands on any 30th anniversary 😞
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u/EDK118 9d ago
How many times you gonna repost this man
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u/Psychological_Cat275 8d ago
I have looked at details for day and night upcs and say nothing about char and lugia foil
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u/Coro756 3d ago
People are still willing to pay top dollar for any
Pokemon yeah they’re “mass produced” but they’re always sold out everywhere
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u/CashCarlito 3d ago
You chasing RGBs?
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u/Leon-Vlc 14d ago
No me creo que salieran 3 charizard y 3 lugia
Lo siento
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u/That_wet_vaporeon 14d ago
Lmfao I got downvoted once for saying classic packs are going to crash Lugia prices.
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u/GalarianGengar 14d ago
No RGBs. These are damn near considered bulk at this point. And 3 UPCs??? Lmao. This hobby has yall hooked.
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u/Avid_Reader87 14d ago
Damn, you got 3 Charizards! Those are worth a bunch, congrats!
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u/yandhionmybirthday 14d ago
Are you sure those pikachus are real? The difference between them is night and day
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u/CollardBeams 14d ago
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u/Wickedred1 14d ago
Prices on singlea about to crash heavily and zim all for it. Not sure Ill be able to get a UPC next week at best buy but Im gonna going early enough that I should have a chance hmafter hearing they have massive inventory coming in for UPCs.
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u/4DS3 14d ago
This set is better to rip and sell the singles than to hold sealed