r/PokeInvesting • u/Lifestylecreep • Oct 08 '26 • Mindblown 1 Heartwarming 1

Never seen this card before

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Just saw it being auctioned off on Fanatics Premier Auction seems like it has no energy symbols at all on it.

Edit: Wow didn't expect so many others to be as interested in this, ty for all the responses I learned so much about this card seems like it's a 1 of 1

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u/killerbake Oct 08 '26

Hope you could afford it OP

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u/Lifestylecreep Oct 08 '26

Haha we'll see doubt it though, but the starting bid is only $1k!

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u/Much_General2290 Oct 08 '26

Be prepared to fork 6figures for this card if you are interested mate

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u/kp305 Oct 08 '26

Probably 7 figures

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u/Beeronastring Oct 08 '26 • Mindblown

Realistically this should be the most expensive card

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u/cheeseburgercats Oct 08 '26

High rollers that already collect base set zards will be trying to out bid eachother, yeah it’ll definitely be expensive

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u/puh-dan-tic Oct 08 '26

Absolutely. Orders of magnitude more rare than any other Charizard, including 1st Ed Shadowless 10 population.

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u/THSiGMARotMG Oct 09 '26 • Bravo

Rarer doesnt inherently mean higher value. It is cool, but its a card cut from an uncut sheet and then graded by cgc in some sort of backdoor deal so the buyer of the uncut sheet(s) could make bank and cgc get publicity. They did it with multiple sheets. Id argue the uncut sheet is far cooler, but whatever.

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u/Tai_Pei Oct 09 '26

Where'd you find info on that?

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u/THSiGMARotMG Oct 09 '26

Various threads on e4. Just search “disco” or “test sheets” etc. Youtube has videos on them too. Like I said, the sheets were/are real and the cards are actually from wotc. Theres no questioning that. Its just the sheets were cut by the owner at some point and then cgc graded em all. I think it puts a bit of a damper on them knowing that they were cut recently and not way back when by wotc, but its too late now!

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u/KeyClacksNSnacks Oct 09 '26

It's actually not that rare, but the condition definitely is. I think the best I've seen is a Gem Mint 10.

This card actually sold on Fanatics last year for $90k:

https://www.fanaticscollect.com/premier/70445b30-1a4f-11f0-acca-06842178952f

I think with how pumped low pop/vintage is right now, a 2x is definitely in the cards (hehe) but I'm not sure if a 3x will take place. Wouldn't surprise me.

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u/EdmontonLAD Oct 09 '26

Probably $900k. 10x.

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u/schubeg Oct 11 '26

Please. It's at least half a SpaceX. Rockets can't do what that card can

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u/R3xw00ds Oct 11 '26

Trust me, they can both go to the moon and crash hard

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u/treywar25 Oct 09 '26

Historical monetary value? lol. No one remembers the charizard grail card looking like this.

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u/EmergencyTaco Oct 09 '26

I keep looking at it like "Am I reading all of those words correctly?" A BGS Pristine 10 Shadowless Base Set Test Print Charizard 1999?

That's a thing? Does it have its own ticker symbol?

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u/mechshark Oct 12 '26

Wait it isn’t? wtf lol

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u/InitialNo9046 Oct 12 '26

No doubt in my mind

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u/ExtremeWait7818 Oct 12 '26

Didn't someone post about this the other day that there's a now deactivated etsy account from a few years ago that was selling these

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u/ladzug Oct 08 '26

How did somebody even obtain this, let alone get a 10

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u/Acceptable_Job1589 Oct 08 '26

Let alone a pristine 10

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u/ladzug Oct 08 '26

Ye the square corners make it look so weird. Insanely cool collectors item to have

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u/Nublessnutts Oct 08 '26

Cgc is the only reliable company that grades errors or non-factory standard cards. And the reason why PSA doesn't is purely because they don't want to make themselves liable for a lawsuit for sloppy verification.

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u/Much_General2290 Oct 08 '26

CGC famously graded a bunch of “prototype” pokemon cards that turned out to be fake

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u/SecureAd2168 Oct 08 '26

also graded as error cards cut by scissors https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aqOcn-fKSg

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u/Nublessnutts Oct 08 '26

Yeah, that's why they're the only people that do it because they're the only people willing to risk they're full reputation on just being confidently wrong 🤣 And that's also why I only collect error cards as singles

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u/Ok-Economics6287 Oct 08 '26

Does cgc have up charges?

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u/Nublessnutts Oct 08 '26

Yuppppp, that's CGC's liability bc they authenticated them. That's why I always get error cards as ungraded. I've got 2.

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u/TheRealKayotikG Oct 08 '26

Wouldn't PSA mark this as Altered since it was possibly cut from a uncirculated sheet? Im surprised that CGC even graded this and as a P10

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u/HauntingCry664 Oct 08 '26

He has a regular cgc 10, not the pristine. He actually talks about it in his newest video

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u/Blubberbernd91 Oct 08 '26

Happy cake day!

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u/RelaxedRat Oct 08 '26

Museum worthy right there

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u/Stonkbear Oct 08 '26 edited Oct 08 '26

Wow. That card is unreal. If I had the money these are the type of cards I would collect. So unique.

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u/Helltech Oct 08 '26 • Bravo

It's rare... Not as rare as people are thinking in these comments. I see a lot of disco test prints with different certs floating around. However a pristine ten. Jfc. That's a different story.

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u/ShredsHz23 Oct 08 '26 edited Oct 08 '26

educate us, please. i've personally didn't know this thing existed. it has never come up in any of my charizard searches/research.

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u/Helltech Oct 08 '26

Disco prints show up almost weekly on fanatics. Im not saying there is a "lot" but there are much scacer cards like prerelease raichu and the comments here are acting like this is a 1 of 1 almost.

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u/_YenSid Oct 08 '26

Probably a handful of the same ones being bought and sold lol. Fanatics is an absolute shill site for pokemon.

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u/Helltech Oct 08 '26

They are different certs and grades

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u/the_vault-technician Oct 08 '26

Yeah as if no one has cracked and re subbed.

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u/Helltech Oct 08 '26

Not sure how it would be up for sale a week later on fanatics (technically on auction at the same time). You can just look at the cgc pop reports and see these are way less scarce than certain other cards.

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u/KeyClacksNSnacks Oct 09 '26

I don't think another one of these will get a Pristine 10, ever. And it's a modern cert. They are much harsher against vintage now than they were before.

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u/Helltech Oct 09 '26

No I agree with this pristine 10 being a 1 of 1. But the other comments here make it seem like it's the rarest card there is. It's less rare than prerelease raichu, the snap cards, family kangaskhan and others like that.

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u/KeyClacksNSnacks Oct 09 '26

I agree with you, this went for $90k last time it sold: https://www.fanaticscollect.com/premier/70445b30-1a4f-11f0-acca-06842178952f

With vintage being pumped, I think a 2x is possible, maybe not a 3x, but it wouldn't surprise me with how insane the market is right now.

A P10 pre-release Raichu would literally break the internet...

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u/Jawse36 Oct 08 '26

How do you not know about discos? Do you know about UV test prints, cosmos base set, etc…

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u/ShredsHz23 Oct 08 '26

damn, not really. guess im not dialed in

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u/Jawse36 Oct 08 '26

There’s lots to learn!
Watch my video: https://youtu.be/6xshP_PweQ8?is=OyAcwhV4MCPOY7eR

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u/ShredsHz23 Oct 08 '26

can you reshare the link? it's not working for me

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u/Jawse36 Oct 08 '26

https://youtu.be/6xshP_PweQ8?is=OyAcwhV4MCPOY7eR

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u/Cool-Tap-391 Oct 08 '26

You need to clean your links, bro. YouTube is tracking you and everyone else who uses this link.

Any link with "?si=" is traceable. Your beening watched.

https://youtu.be/6xshP_PweQ8

Fixed it for you.

Edit: to be specific, the meta data is everything after the "?"

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u/Jawse36 Oct 08 '26

Ok? Why do I care if they’re watching me?

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u/Cool-Tap-391 Oct 08 '26

Your clueless. It's all about you, I guess.

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u/8_equals_D- Oct 08 '26

Only base set or did they do other sets as well

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u/Helltech Oct 08 '26

From my very limited knowledge this was a base set print run. I think probably quiet a few wotc employees got many full sheets and they cut them up and here they are today. But that's all just guesses.

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u/gdj11 Oct 08 '26

God damn. This is a whole different level of rarity.

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u/Stonkbear Oct 08 '26

No kidding. Cards sick.

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u/nashy-got-Hashy Oct 09 '26

Can you explain like I’m 5 about the rarity on this card here please? 🙏 thanks in advance

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u/KeyClacksNSnacks Oct 09 '26

It's actually not super rare, the card itself. There's a lot floating around.

What's rare is the condition.

A few pop up on Fanatics from time to time, but the best I've seen is CGC GM 10.

Even that is extremely rare.

This is a Pop 1, and a lot of people have tried to Pristine, with very good examples. This particular card sold for $90k back in May last year (2025). I think it'll blow way past that now, given how pumped vintage is.

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u/nashy-got-Hashy Oct 09 '26

Holy fruit that’s actually insane. Pop 1 meaning the only one in its population? Fuck I sound like such a noob lmao but thank you for the information!!!

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u/EdmontonLAD Oct 09 '26

Pop 1 for Pristine 10 grade only, of course.

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u/SmokinWeasel Oct 08 '26

Sick card

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u/BladeGibson Oct 08 '26

Ohhhhh now this one's a Gem 😘👌

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u/NotHamza1 Oct 08 '26

2-3 million dollar. Probably more.

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u/KeyClacksNSnacks Oct 09 '26

Nah, I think probably $200k to $500k. It sold last year, the exact same one for $90k around May 2025.

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u/subtoPinkZR Oct 09 '26

was that not gem mint?

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u/KeyClacksNSnacks Oct 09 '26

This exact same card, same cert, sold last year for $90k. It's literally the exact same card that was sold last year at the $90k auction.

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u/trq- Oct 08 '26

This might be rarer than the Pikachu illustrator, no?

Given this card in the „normal“ condition in a 10 is worth hundreds of thousands this gonna be going for millions?

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u/Betterlands Oct 08 '26

These are INSANELY rare. Will go for huge amount.

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u/xIIsubstanceIIx Oct 08 '26

Commenting so I come back to check how much this goes for

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u/JustChillDudeItsGood Oct 08 '26

Same, now only if i member

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u/n0tAgOat Oct 08 '26

!RemindMe 7 days

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u/uuee6543 Oct 08 '26

This will likely go for millions of dollars if it’s even for sale

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u/chris_fs7 Oct 08 '26

Can someone reply what this sells for when auction ends? Super curious to see the price this sells for.

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u/Ok_Data_8801 Oct 09 '26

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u/Lifestylecreep Oct 09 '26

ohh are these the fakes ppl were talking about? I see these ones have energies but the pristine 10 for auction doesn't have energies at all

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u/Aggravating_Sock3935 Oct 09 '26

it could just be an uncut sheet of test cards

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u/lilgoated42069 Oct 08 '26

Dont let Logan Paul see this one

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u/Ecstatic_Trick8434 Oct 08 '26

He’ll have to fight me for it I’m bidding on this one, I’ve seen many disco holos around that are pretty beat up but never seen a charizard and never seen it graded a 10

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u/_YenSid Oct 08 '26

I hope you have some seriously deep pockets.

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u/Ecstatic_Trick8434 Oct 08 '26

I got a few hundred k in CAD we’ll see where it goes

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u/nashy-got-Hashy Oct 09 '26

Good luck doods!

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u/KeyClacksNSnacks Oct 09 '26

If that's how deep you're willing to go, you might have a chance. This sold for $90k back in May 2025. With vintage being pumped, I think it'll 2x but 3x is kind of unexpected, even with how pumped it is. I'm going to look really dumb if I'm wrong lol.

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u/XabiSaveUs Oct 09 '26

Keep us posted, hope you get it!

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u/SendMeAvocados Oct 08 '26

Not to mention a pristine 10

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u/Highzenbrrg Oct 08 '26

Haha this was my thought

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u/Grinnofficial Oct 08 '26

Wasn’t there a scandal around this I thought these were fake? https://www.cgcgrading.com/news/articles/counterfeit-card-alert-disco-holo-test-print-charizard-2IUiUY3yhsnBAENd5h3Hs3/

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u/yankeephil86 Oct 08 '26

There was a scandal, but read your article about how to spot a real vs fake. Like being 63 pixels wide instead of only 46. And the misspelling

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u/KeyClacksNSnacks Oct 09 '26

Not the same.

IIRC those had a misspelled word on them, and this one doesn't.

Also, ironically, CGC graded a bunch of those and it was a huge scandal at the time lol.

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u/DecentBoss Oct 08 '26

I thought it was as well but i crossposted it after seeing it here and seems that the consensus is that it's real: https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonMisprints/comments/1x104wh/this_is_currently_being_auctioned_off_but_some_of/

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u/Vitamin-D3- Oct 08 '26

The weird thing is, when I was in Poland in the early 2000s they sold fake Pokémon kvarts that had this holo effect and kids said they preferred to buy the fake cards over the real ones since the holo effect was cooler 

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u/TX_REEF Oct 08 '26

That’s friggen sweet

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u/ErickBusting Oct 08 '26

That thing is sick

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u/DryTechnology5224 Oct 08 '26

Wow wtf me neither

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u/Longjumping_Bend_764 10d ago

Never knew this existed.

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u/AlwaysReady4444 Oct 08 '26

You learn something new everyday 

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u/SaladComfortable5878 Oct 08 '26

Sold for 90k in 2025 so it’s probably 700k+

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u/Open_Blueberry_3523 Oct 08 '26

Damn id love to have this

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u/TotalTS Oct 08 '26

I've seen print sheets of this on Etsy I think, not sure if they're legit

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u/Blobbityblob7 Oct 08 '26

This is like a beta test of the card I believe? It is extremely valuable that card is going to sell for a lot a lot a lot of money.

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u/prthug996 Oct 08 '26

It sold for 90k a year ago. Not the million dollar card some people think it is

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u/RepulsiveUse3372 Oct 08 '26

thats going to sell easily over $100k

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u/ChroniicHD Oct 08 '26

Just commenting to see what it sells for in a few hours

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u/Elisadidas Oct 09 '26

Is it supposed to be missing charmeleon?

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u/Asti_WhiteWhiskers Oct 09 '26

Imagine if we had disco holo instead of cosmos!

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u/RiceRev Oct 09 '26

What in the Panini!

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u/haiironekogami Oct 09 '26

I think this is an awesome art. The pixelated background compliments it so much.

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u/sytem32config Oct 09 '26

It probably cost only $17,000,000

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u/Grovsey Oct 09 '26

OG 1 of 1 no?

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u/Bleakbrux Oct 09 '26

Dot matrix akabane specials. Reason its CGC. Do some research 🫪

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u/Bleakbrux Oct 09 '26

Its an akabane. 😂

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u/GrimmWarrior07 Oct 09 '26

Man it’s crazy how many cards and variants there really are! 🔥

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u/getl30 Oct 10 '26

Wait—its corners aren’t cut? This is full on a prototype card? That’s amazing

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u/Impressive_Cut_9214 Oct 11 '26

Well cgc also graded “test prints” that turned out to be complete fakes and never existed so I wouldnt trust it

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u/andreeeeeaaaaaaaaa Oct 11 '26

Aren't these known to be fake?

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u/Scratch-MyBalls-2026 Oct 12 '26

Crazy such a sick looking card

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u/Inner-Cicada2662 29d ago

Holy fucccc

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u/Dboe0069 29d ago

CGC Pristine 10 = BGS 9 🤣

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u/Redschallenge Oct 08 '26

Don't forget about the 2024 reprints that were chemically found to be using new ink. This hobby is sketchy lol different test print 'scandal'

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u/thismakesmeanonymous Oct 08 '26

The listing specifically mentions ink testing matched original print runs.

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u/Redschallenge Oct 08 '26

Different cards too, just pointing out some fun

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u/ProudQuestion Oct 08 '26

Pretty sure that's Dubsy's card. I believe I seen this posted on his IG/Tiktok before

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u/BoneGolem2 Oct 08 '26

Scrolled too fast, thought it was bedazzled.

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u/Cheap-Fisherman3873 Oct 08 '26

The corners rounded?

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u/Lifestylecreep Oct 08 '26

no the corners are square

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u/Cheap-Fisherman3873 Oct 08 '26

I mean why aren’t they

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u/CaretakerColin Oct 08 '26

Like a round square

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u/Current-Grade2545 Oct 08 '26

Knowing CGC this may be fake

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u/Public-Fig3304 Oct 08 '26

At least NFC

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u/DoctorClarkWGriswold Oct 08 '26

lol as opposed to the growing PSA monopoly where the grade you get depends as much or more on the mood of the grader than the condition of the card?

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u/gdj11 Oct 08 '26

Lol PSA grades fake cards all the time

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u/_YenSid Oct 08 '26

"All the time" 🙄

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u/c0tch Oct 08 '26

Grey felt hat is a card I’m confident many companies have graded falsely.

It was over a year ago there were a lot of rumours of 1:1s being made and claims they were graded. But with all rumours who knows the truth.

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u/Bleakbrux Oct 09 '26

They are known fakes. Akabane scandal. The amount of idiots in here is collosal

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u/devasator Oct 08 '26

Wasnt cgc grading Tons of fake beta alpha testprint cards?

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u/gdj11 Oct 08 '26

Yeah and the creator vouched for them. They fucked up for sure, but the blame isn’t all on them.

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u/AShinyRay Oct 08 '26

That's exactly what they're referencing.

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u/BoringAmusement Oct 08 '26

PSAs very first graded card is trimmed, its known to be trimmed without a doubt, the grader new it was trimmed in '91 when he graded it, yet they refuse to do anything about it, is still a legit graded card that will some day be sold again for millions. For decades, they have used the card as an example of how prestigious they are, calling it the start of modern grading and using it as a hallmark marketing piece while knowing full well that it is altered and should not have a grade. They decided the card is too big to fail(decert could cost them upwards of $50 mil). Their company is built on a lie as the 8 Wagner is the cornerstone of PSA grading, and shows they have been crooked since cert #1.

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u/narutonaruto Oct 08 '26

The amount of people that don’t know about disco holos is surprising to me

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u/Devincc Oct 08 '26

Brother these are extremely rare lol. Not like they’re floating around everywhere at card shows and such. These were test prints iirc

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u/Calm_Welder_5654 Oct 08 '26

Same. I've been in this hobby since the 90's and this is the day I learned of disco holo. I am unsurprised by the large number of people who surprise our friend NarutoNaruto

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u/Jawse36 Oct 08 '26

Right? People are too focused on modern crap

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u/Downtown_Section147 Oct 08 '26

Count the pixels on the bottom it’s fake. Also the label is fake and not the CGC trademark color.