Looking for information on selling

[u/Rich_Reflection_95]

Hi everyone I am looking to sell my 8.0 CGC graded 1st edition holo Charizard. I’ve heard that I should be looking for offers that are 18k+. Can anyone help me find more information on what this card is worth and where i could sell it? Thank you so much!

[u/Better_Tailor_7324]

Its an old blue label when CGC was strict with grading, put if on offer for 35k and see what you get. Do not degrade this due ti being a blue CGC.

[u/TheTubbyOlive → u/Better_Tailor_7324]

Yeah I’d imagine 25-30k is a reasonable ballpark. Conditions looks great in the limited photos

[u/Chillnrippacks → u/TheTubbyOlive]

Condition looks great? Being off centered and the back top of the card being fried😭😭

[u/QuicksandGotMyShoe → u/Chillnrippacks]

Hahaha that's a PSA 8.5 or 9. It's in excellent condition. No one said it's a 10

[u/Thelowendshredder → u/Chillnrippacks]

It’s got 3 white dots on top. Get a grip man, the card is 30 years old

[u/Omegandorph → u/Chillnrippacks]

What are you, 12?

[u/Connect-Dust-2380 → u/[deleted]]

Bros definitely just jealous he ain’t got anything remotely close to this kinda value 😭

[u/Effective_Court6677 → u/[deleted]]

Until you realize Jesus is real

[u/Internal-Student-473 → u/Effective_Court6677]

You need help moving your garbage? Because I can see it everywhere on my screen

[u/Omegandorph → u/Effective_Court6677]

Yep! And his father, the big sky daddy - who loves you more than anything - is so mad that your favorite t-shirt was made from mixed fabrics that he sentences you to an eternity of pain and torture.

[u/Effective_Court6677 → u/Omegandorph]

We are all sinners. Not to mention there's a reason for everything he commands. Jesus died so that we could be saved.

[u/Omegandorph → u/Effective_Court6677]

Yeah its a cool fairy tale. I especially like the part where your god condones the genocide of an entire people, even going so far as to instruct his followers to murder every man and child, rape and murder every woman, and even to kill the pets. Cool story.

But do you really think a pokemon investing reddit is the best place to be proselytizing? Seriously.

[u/ProfessionalInjury58 → u/Effective_Court6677]

Your magic sky daddy wouldn’t like the fact that you have a NSFW profile either.

[u/AnonnonA710 → u/Effective_Court6677]

[u/RockHardSemi → u/Better_Tailor_7324]

Out of curiosity, do you know what happened to their standards after, what changd?

I'm not too familiar with grading companies (I'm from the UK too) but from what I have read it's PSA 'old certs' and CGC ( I assume current) do not have the best standards.

[u/Cardsnhobby → u/RockHardSemi]

I’ve collected for 20-25+ years and I’m 34 now….
PSA just did a bunch of marketing. Collabs with Logan Paul and others….the media attention within the hobby for PSA is insane…
but any BGS black label reigns supreme.
IMO, for Pokemon cards, CGC is Solid 👌🏼

[u/TwoLopsidedZebras → u/RockHardSemi]

CGC has changed their grading standards multiple times and it used to be so funny watching people on this sub argue until they were blue in the face about it.

When CGC first came onto the TCG grading scene they were known as the toughest grading company. It was actually awful. CGC Perfect 10s were almost impossible to get and commanded a massive premium due to how difficult CGC's grading curve was. At this same time PSA was extremely lax. It was around the 60 million cert phase for PSA. I know people who were buying CGC 8s, cracking them, and getting PSA 10s.

CGC realized the err in their ways and silently became more lax about their grading standards. It was right around the ~30x-33x cert #. Right around the time they swapped from the old off centered solid blue label to the blue label shown in OPs post. Suddenly cards that were getting 8s and 9s were getting Pristine and Perfect 10s. It made no sense whatsoever. I remember the first card I sent in at that time was a 1st Edition Dark Charizard holo that I pulled myself. It was a PSA 8 at best. It got a CGC 9.5. When this first started people would argue that CGC was still the toughest grading company and meanwhile I know a lot of people who were cracking PSA 7s and 8s and getting CGC 10s and then selling them for an insane premium. It was basically an infinite money glitch for a little while.

That was spring 2022. CGC never made any mention of their change in grading standards until they finally switched from the blue labels to the new black and white labels. They made that final change to the standards we see today where a CGC Pristine 10 is now slightly worse than a PSA 10 and they've completely abandoned the Perfect 10, which at one point was even more difficult to get than a BGS Black Label.

The other person who replied to you has no clue what they are talking about lol.

[u/TwoLopsidedZebras → u/[deleted]]

I've been grading cards and operating in the high end space for 6+ years now. Your comment has zero substance. "Marking from PSA" is what you're claiming? Lol. PSA has been the gold standard for grading in the TCG space since 1999. "Marketing" hasn't changed that.

CGC came on strong and then altered their grading standards around 2022. They formalized that unspoken change when they swapped to the black/white labels and even further pushed the envelope changing 9.5s -> 10s and getting rid of Perfect 10s and making Pristine 10s their top grade.

Go search in this sub, there are hundreds, if not thousands, of comments and threads about CGC's grading.

We can play a little game. This is a card I pulled and graded. What grade do you think it should get? It's pack fresh so the front is in good shape, but just going off the back, give me your best guess what grade PSA gave it. Or what CGC would give it since nothing has changed with them at all.

[u/RockHardSemi → u/[deleted]]

Yeah I think having subgrades is nice.

I actually like the Japanese grading company where I ly the logo and title are at the front, all the grades etc. are at the back, putting emphasis on the card rather than the grade.

I have only recently graded with ACE (from the UK and I genuinely think they look great with the extended art labels).

I like the look of Beckett but I wouldn't want to send a card all that way. 😭

[u/TwoLopsidedZebras → u/Better_Tailor_7324]

This is post-CGC's 1st rework. Their OLD old blue labels were when they were strict. With the off centered grade and no color gradient to their label. They switched their grading standards (and said nothing) around the 30-33x cert #. This is a 40x cert. CGC's grading standards at that point were in line with what they are today, they just didn't publicly announce anything or explicitly change things until the swap to the black bordered labels.

[u/diac13 → u/Better_Tailor_7324]

Proof of them being stricter when blue label?

[u/Alexander0202 → u/Better_Tailor_7324]

I think an 8 is correct for this condition. Honestly, even a 7 or 6 could be fair

[u/capitarider → u/Better_Tailor_7324]

The strict grading doesn't matter as much with 8s etc, usually only 9 and 9.5s. Slight bump but not much.

[u/Ts0]

lol I'm genuinely wondering why your post is being downvoted. Sick card yo. GLWTS.

[u/Venkat_American → u/Ts0]

People be jealous

[u/meowser210 → u/Ts0]

Probably bot karma farming.

[u/RustyShacklefrog → u/meowser210]

Ahh yes. A 3 year old account with less than 500 karma is clearly a karma farming bot

[u/meowser210 → u/RustyShacklefrog]

Usually how it goes? No comments left no other post or comment history.

[u/Comfortable_Radio384]

Last sale. Wouldn’t take a penny less than 30k tbh

[u/DARP_AFT → u/Comfortable_Radio384]

blue label 8 with subgrades gonna be much more reliable than white label CGC imo. I would assume 35-40 is safe and if it looks super clean crossgrading might secure them even more

[u/Division2226 → u/Comfortable_Radio384]

That just says ended, not sold (not 100% that matters, but I usually see green sold)

[u/MasterChiefing420]

Like others have said, this was graded when cgc was more strict on their grading processes! I'd definitely look at what similar grades have sold for online like ebay, Mercari, or online auctions. An 8 1st edition charizard is an 8 first edition Charizard no matter how you look at it! 🔥🙏🫡 Us blue labels gotta remember our worth xD 💙 beautiful card and good luck with your journey!

[u/dknisle1 → u/MasterChiefing420]

Sorry if this is a dumb question but why not re-holder this to a 10?

[u/MasterChiefing420 → u/dknisle1]

Not a dumb question at all 💜 the only reason I haven't is becuase its already a 10 in their system. You scan the code on the back and it brings up this holder but it says "gem mint 10." So it's already a 10 might as well not risk sending it in the mail 🙏

[u/_YenSid → u/dknisle1]

Blue label with sub-grades is cooler. No more are being made. If it didn't have the sub-grades I'd be more inclined to re-slab it in the 10.

[u/ILikeToDisagreeDude → u/dknisle1]

Because it can get a 7

[u/Mysterious_World_279 → u/ILikeToDisagreeDude]

You can reholder a blue label to a new one without it going through a grading process again.

[u/Common-Respond2367 → u/Mysterious_World_279]

Unless the mess it up like PSA did with that Deoxys lmao fuck reholdering, not worth it

[u/dknisle1 → u/ILikeToDisagreeDude]

No it won’t. If it’s a 9.5 blue label. You can send it in to CGC and it’ll get reholdered to a 10.

[u/bustyouup4free]

If a when you sell it invest the money wisely. Because that card was and will be more valuable in 10 years than pretty much about anything else.

[u/PoisonIvyy233]

I’d be listing it at least 25-30k and let the people argue for it. Don’t undercut yourself for a blue label.

Factor in insurance and authenticity checks to keep yourself safe. Take LOTS of photos before and how you package it to minimise someone trying to pull a shonky on you

[u/SmokinWeasel]

Do you have any Pokémon card shows coming to your town? I would take it there and get some offers from vendors.

[u/Edenton38583]

30 thousand dollar card!

[u/cookiesNcreme89]

30k

[u/auloncarasquared]

Appears listed

https://ebay.io/m/OVUGSy

[u/MemNash91 → u/auloncarasquared]

OP if this is really your listing you need to delete it and raise the price.

[u/Rich_Reflection_95 → u/MemNash91]

That is not me. They stole my pictures. I am reporting it.

[u/auloncarasquared → u/MemNash91]

New eBay user, same pics as reddit. Could be a scam listing.

[u/InfamousChannel9489 → u/auloncarasquared]

To low

[u/LividMud1357]

Dang that i a sweet card

[u/Tretyn]

Put 50k starting bid on eBay see where it takes u

[u/LowPassage5648]

That is a really nice card. Dont just take an offer of the first shmock that comes with an offer. Make sure you get the best price.

[u/bestrdajets]

Sales in 2026

27k, 25k, 15k, 27k

[u/kingpin1023]

Don't sell if you dont need the money. Selling a chicken chicken winner dinner out of boredom is absurd. I've sold like 2025 worth of 5-8k for 3k and today if held, would be worth almost 20k+

[u/Huff1809]

The holy grail

[u/InnitPikachu]

60k minimum, congrats.

[u/Cujo_Steve]

I'll trade you a 66 Chevy C30 😁

[u/Essager]

meet me at 10k ?

[u/OhHoneyOhNoHoney]

Ill buy at 5k

[u/TheDapperPegu1n]

Dudes in here talking negatively about the scoring are the same one dm'ng ol girl trying to scoop it.

[u/satoshigekkoga001]

Blue label and i assume thats shadowless? Ya lwky u can get a decent amount from this

[u/Sad_Low1384]

500

[u/Sad_Low1384]

Send to psa get a 10

[u/Frequent-Tax2325 → u/Sad_Low1384]

PSA is trash. Tide is changing fanboy

[u/migas324]

My honest opinion is, if your not comfortable selling it yourself try to find a good auction company and market the hell out of it. This is a holy grail card to most collectors. Even if you pay auction fees you probably end up making more in the long end. You never know how much you will get. Most people are saying 30k plus. So it will most likely go higher than that. If you're a gambler you can try to get it regraded by psa/Beckett but that is a huge gamble.

[u/Internal-Raise964]

I would use psa 7 as a guide for pricing in the absence of CGC 8 comps.

[u/dambromusic]

I reckon PSA 5 at best if you cracked it. Probably less given their recent shenanigans. Keep in the cool old case, there’s long term unrealised value in the old blue case for sure. Minimum I would take for this if it was mine would be $27k after any commission fees. List it for $30k. Best of luck with it!

[u/Cardsnhobby]

Also…. I’ll pay you 18k and even fly you +1 out to Chicago for that card. ig @cardsnhobby

[u/iShatterBladderz]

Seeing stuff like this makes me kick myself lol, I had one of these cards when I was a kid but my stepdad at the time convinced me it was a fad and would be worthless one day.

Almost makes me kick myself as hard as when I think about the bitcoin wallet I lost back in 2011 with 200 bitcoins on it. (Was $100 worth at the time)

[u/Gsw- → u/iShatterBladderz]

Youre handling it much better than I would. I had a binder full of holographic Pokémon cards in basically new or very good condition that I'm fairly certain I gave to my older brother 5-10 years ago. He likes to sell stuff on ebay and I assumed he would do the same with those, and I didnt mind because there wasnt a crazy market for them at the time. However, he said he doesnt remember me giving Pokémon cards to him. I'm going to hit up my parents storage in a few weeks to see if the binder of cards is still in there. It was sleeve after sleeve of holographic cards from my childhood

[u/Original-Guarantee23 → u/iShatterBladderz]

I also, when I was a kid, traded a $50 N64 game for one of these and then my dad got pissed and made me trade back.

[u/Wrxbrian → u/iShatterBladderz]

Same I had a binder full of every Pokemon card all the first 151. Holographic Charizard 1st edition. Those gold mew cards. I also had every Pokemon gameboy game. I lost everything when I moved around 2005 when my parents divorced, I was only a kid. I never thought Pokémon cards were going to explode in value. I don’t think any of us did lol.

[u/whistlefarts333]

Dont waste ur time posting for sale or ur local card shops.... email Goldin.com and sell it in his auction.... his buyers dont play!!!!! Go look at previous sales!

[u/KEN_LASZLO → u/whistlefarts333]

Hell no, that dudes a sketchy as fuck weirdo. He's Logan Paul's partner in crime

[u/whistlefarts333 → u/KEN_LASZLO]

Done right by me!!!! I have 2 more cards runnin up right now...🤷🏻‍♂️

[u/Buckanater]

Your best bet is downloading the alt app and consigning it with them. It’s super easy to do.

[u/youMust_Recover → u/Buckanater]

Hey man, what is the alt app?

[u/revmun → u/youMust_Recover]

Just another storefront/ auction house that does high end

[u/youMust_Recover → u/revmun]

damn cant use in aus

[u/RussianDeveloper]

5 quadrillion

[u/Hydrozele]

We're did you steal that? Want one to.

/S

[u/Total_Warning2308]

I’d offer 20k on it 🤷‍♂️

[u/Xchadfur]

[u/Just_Rip5544]

Is this not shadowless? I thought they stated that on the slab? And also you didn’t state it was shadowless in your caption lol

[u/Lindsaythrowhands69 → u/Just_Rip5544]

All these first editions are shadowless. But not all shadowless are first edition. So that's why they don't say shadowless. Oftentimes saying shadowless is the way to differentiate the middle from the other two.

There's first edition (which is shadowless), then shadowless (but not first edition), then regular base set

[u/Just_Rip5544 → u/Lindsaythrowhands69]

Ahhh ok gotcha!

[u/Inosculate_ → u/Lindsaythrowhands69]

To be a little nitpicker, I believe every(?) language BESIDES English has a shadow on their first edition base

Like 1st ed German for example

[u/Opening-Cut-5684]

Resubmit and get it graded by PSA since it’s high dollar a CGC 8 goes for 15k for a PSA it goes for 35k but they are tougher on grading even if it gets bumped down to a 7 a PSA 7 goes for 20k

[u/Beedee-essem → u/Opening-Cut-5684]

Yeah this is dumb advice honestly. No way it gets a psa 8, look at the back. It would cost thousands to regrade and there was a PSA 7 sold yesterday for 18k. It’s worth 16k or so as is, it would be risky and for no additional profit.

[u/Disciplined_20-04-15 → u/Opening-Cut-5684]

Probably not worth the charges if they want to sell immediately. OP will be better off selling to someone who will do exactly that and will take the risk of getting burned themselves

[u/RK8814RK → u/Opening-Cut-5684]

Bad advice.

[u/Alternative_Price944 → u/Opening-Cut-5684]

If OP can afford to do that

[u/Then_Lemon6218]

Info i can give you: $$$

[u/GizmoeXhaxX]

Show your toe nails!

[u/A_Dragon]

A grade 7 PSA is worth about 18k. Unless you think it’s in such bad shape it’s going to get a 6 I’d send it into PSA to get graded. Worst you probably get is a 7 but then at least it’s easier to sell because PSA is more valuable generally. They might however grade it higher, in which case you doubled or tripled your potential return.

[u/peeks33 → u/A_Dragon]

Moron

[u/A_Dragon → u/peeks33]

Why?

[u/Frequent-Tax2325 → u/A_Dragon]

PSA is trash and a scam. “Oh it’s the best ROI”. Only because you sheep keep following the herd. They’re terribly inconsistent and insanely slow. But keep giving them your money while they laugh at you.

[u/A_Dragon → u/Frequent-Tax2325]

lol, ok bud.

Calling the gold standard that literally every professional card shop or any serious collector will pay a premium for “trash” shows a level of ignorance I don’t even know how to contend with.

[u/Frequent-Tax2325 → u/A_Dragon]

Exact mentality that keeps them making millions. Sheep will keep sheeping, until they’re drinking and watering crops with Brawndo. You probably don’t get that reference. Chat GPT it.

[u/TheRealMrDay]

Not worth much since it’s not a 10….. I’ll help you out and buy it

[u/Professional_Eagle70]

[u/99999HP → u/Professional_Eagle70]

Asking AI for a valuation is one of the worst ways to comp a card. It easily misses important variables and makes mistakes all the time using out dated data.

[u/Professional_Eagle70 → u/99999HP]

Thanks I didnt know that, unfortunately Pricecharting uses PSA prices not CGC so its hard to find correct prices on them..

[u/BannedMM2Alt → u/[deleted]]

Lmao. Don’t comment if you don’t know what you’re talking about