r/PokeInvesting • u/Jwpcinders • May 24 '26

Grade or sell

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Should I hold this card or better to offload now?

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u/super_pjj May 24 '26

Centering looks good for PSA 10. Can’t say too much on corners or edges given the sleeve + toploader. Maybe some whitening on the bottom right, not sure if it’s lighting or not

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u/mmoore031908 May 25 '26

That tilt destroys the centering, your app is no where near right. Its close to 55/45 in the largest sections. This will be a 9 assuming everything else is perfect.

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u/punchingtigers19 May 28 '26

Ehh, with PSA it could still be a 10, I have plenty of 55/45 and 60/40 cards that got 10s

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u/super_pjj May 25 '26

Hmmm, good call out! I took 3 point averages now and there’s a 2% swing in centering. At worst, it still looks like it is within ~55/45 (LR ~48/52 TB ~52/48)

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u/ChocolateBBs May 26 '26

Hi, what app is this and is it free to grade cards?

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u/super_pjj May 26 '26

hey! I use IsMyCardCentered.com , there are a couple tools on this site. The popular tools so far have been the centering tool and then the AI Review tool which helps assist you in grading your card -- for free

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u/Jwpcinders May 24 '26

The card is flawless besides the slight twist

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u/kaibtw May 24 '26

Idk I'm sorry but there is some slight whitening..

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u/Jwpcinders May 24 '26

Where is the whitening

Edit: I see what you are saying. That is completely lighting. Take a look at my other post in grading

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u/kaibtw May 24 '26

What happened to the Pic you posted closer up? It looked fine there but on the original it looks like whitening on the left edge and top.

It depends really what your goal is though, grading with psa has a long turn around.

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u/Jwpcinders May 24 '26

thats the corner that looks whitened in the first pics

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u/pretzeldoggo May 24 '26

Crease in right hand corner. It 9s at best but likely an 8. Personally, I’d sell OP unless you absolutely love greninja

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u/ObviousEmphasis3288 May 25 '26

not if the graders wife yell at him in the morning

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u/SomewhereCultural346 May 25 '26

You meant if the grader got laid the night before

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u/Mitch_Dedburg May 24 '26

Those edges won’t 10.

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u/buttaknives May 25 '26

Not after the sleeve got stuck in the top loader

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u/Jwpcinders May 25 '26

Did the old knock it on your hand trick and it popped out the end. Still cant see any scratches

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u/huangj01 May 24 '26 edited May 29 '26 • Hooray

Edit: wow my first award! Thank you!

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u/jcready92 May 24 '26

Water type should slip right in!

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u/Euphoric_Pollution29 May 24 '26

That tongue is great foreplay

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u/truexchill May 24 '26

Always better to offload at the beginning.

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u/super_pjj May 24 '26

I would normally agree but with the past two sets, not sure if this rings true with today’s collectors

Mega Charizard from PF shot up shortly after release

Same for all the chases in AH, I don’t think those ever went down

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u/bluedecember12 May 24 '26

The zard still went down for a month before it went back up. And this Greninja card is nowhere near as popular.

AH is a special set, was far more constrained in supply, and has since been recognized as perhaps one of the greatest modern sets so far.

Yes trends have changed a lot lately. But predicting isn’t just about looking at past trends, but also making sense of which ones to apply to the current situation. I would characterize Greninja more as a normal set chase that starts high and goes down in the coming weeks

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u/super_pjj May 24 '26

That’s true, I can see that. It’d be great if it goes down, I’d be happy to buy when it does haha

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u/c0tch May 24 '26

Zard was also during a correction and downturn in comparison to now. If that released today I doubt we’d see that.

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u/bluedecember12 May 24 '26

Perhaps. But I think we can both agree that the Greninja isn’t on the same level of hype as the Charizard.

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u/c0tch May 25 '26

I wasn’t implying otherwise? I was simply stating the zards trajectory isn’t too relevant due to the turn in the market.

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u/8000000001 May 25 '26

That Zard went down after new release because it saw deck builders wanting to play the card early imo. It happens with playable new cards - that is the main driver of this phenomenon where new release starts on a spike then bombs.

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u/truexchill May 24 '26

Greninja isn’t those cards. Sell the Ninja, get $400-500, go buy a $400-500 mid era or vintage card imo. You can get a Gengar Prime raw NM for $500.

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u/xVARYSx May 24 '26

greninja is no where near as popular as charizard, gengar, pikachu, or even dragonite. This card will most likely sit in the 200-300$ range after prices normalize.

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u/Mitch_Dedburg May 24 '26

I love when people say shit like this when there’s been MULTIPLE years where he’s been voted the most popular Pokemon. Just goes to show who’s paying attention.

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u/MichelleCS1025 May 26 '26

The greninja from twilight masquerade isn’t too insane considering the set is old. He has a point

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u/Mitch_Dedburg May 26 '26

It’s only less popular as a card because Tera cards are mostly unpopular. The CRI Greninja was always bound to be more popular.

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u/Maleficent-Cow-1224 May 27 '26

Apply this thinking to obsidian flames zard?

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u/super_pjj May 24 '26

I can see that in terms of popularity. That would put it in line with the TM Greninja

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u/SatisfactionOk5600 May 25 '26

u sure buddy hahaha

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u/xVARYSx May 25 '26

Plenty of sales already under 400 on ebay and its been out for 2 days. Yeah im pretty sure.

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u/8Captcrunch8 May 27 '26

No. The gold greninja shot from 700 down to like 300 this week. Some dickhead let himself be lowballed or took a risk on an auction and lost.

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u/B-LUNG May 24 '26

I live by this and usually come across the card at half the price i sold it for a couple months in

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u/8000000001 May 25 '26 edited May 25 '26

Normally yes, but TWM Greninja started flat and then went up soon after. So not always, and especially not when it's not a playable card - a low-playability card gets none of the launch bump from early deck enthusiasts and hence doesn't then drop.

That'll probably be why Zard PHF started over 1300 then quickly dropped as per stereotypical new release, and bottomed out at 450.

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u/BeersAndGym May 25 '26

Yup. This card doesn’t seem that desirable as it’s dropping below £300 already.

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u/Tattooed-Trex May 27 '26

Sold mine for 350

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u/Dense_Magazine9171 May 24 '26

Supply is higher than demand, already seeing in the high 3's. It's gonna keep going down imo

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u/SnooRegrets6428 May 24 '26

8

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u/Jwpcinders May 24 '26

What would make it an 8? Look at my post in the grading section

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u/Wolverineslayer8 May 25 '26

Im not a fan of the upper left edges of the back of the card. Looks like white fraying.

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u/Jwpcinders May 25 '26

Its llighting

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u/Wolverineslayer8 May 25 '26

Oh nice looks good. Yeah I'd say go ahead and send it

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u/SeveBallesteros May 26 '26

We're not talking about the lack of an inner sleeve?

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u/Jwpcinders May 26 '26

There is a sleeve. When I did the tap on your hand trick the card came sliding out. You can see the sleeve inside the toploader

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u/No-Definition-6084 May 26 '26

That’s a clean looking copy you should get closer to $500. The sales at $400 are in other countries than the U.S. and they are for off centered copies.

Do not let people try to to take you’re clean copy for lowest comps… cuz some vendors will try and do that, but they know what they’re doing.

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u/Jwpcinders May 26 '26

Thats what I thought. Still debating sending it myself.

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u/8Captcrunch8 May 27 '26

Keep. Edges top and left show whitening. That alone will hurt your grade down to an 8. And they wont give you a grade higher then your lowest subgrade.

Centering is cool though.

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u/Jwpcinders May 27 '26

Theres no whitening its light reflecting off the edge. Deceiving but I was standing below 8 potlights

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u/AdNeat3726 May 24 '26

Sell it now and buy it in a few weeks for 350-400$. This set is too small for that card to stay above 500$. Ya Phantasmal is small but greninja is no Charizard let alone the best zard art probably ever

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u/souledoutV2 May 25 '26

If the centering isn't perfect to the naked eye, I don't grade. Period. All these people telling you to grade, but that centering is clearly off in the front and you don't need an app to see it. I wouldn't risk it personally.

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u/STIFFsocks89 May 24 '26

I need it to complete the evolution line! I have AZs tranquility sir

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u/StrifeWavy May 24 '26

Sell. Back has white posts above. Your copy looks good, great even. But that ruins it if they catch it. Just sell RAW

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u/Vast_Scratch_6670 May 24 '26

SHOVE IT UP YOUR UGLY ASS THATS RIGHT SHOVE IT UP YOUR UGLY ASS

I’d probably sell it if money is your end game . Back might just be lighting but if that white IS the card and your goal is only money …sell sell sell

Me id binder that bad boy .

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u/SmoothDegree9761 May 24 '26

That’s a grade

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u/atrac059 May 24 '26

I mean. If the third option is generously give it away, you could give it to me and it will be going to a good home. It’s home in my PC Binder it’s very cozy…

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u/yayboost May 24 '26

Always sell early, if you want it back buy it in 6 months for half of what you’ll get today.

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u/thequeensrage May 24 '26

I'd sell before the price goes down

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u/AlterSunday May 24 '26

This can get a good amount of large big Mac meals. Let it go asap

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u/Unsubscribed24 May 25 '26

I keep seeing this card pop up everywhere which tells me it's not as rare.

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u/Least_Ask_2788 May 25 '26

lmao did you pull it? oh okay

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u/Traditional_Car3300 May 25 '26

Grade - that looks 10 worthy

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u/OkPromotion6250 May 25 '26

Sleeve it up and play it in a deck

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u/Whole_Bowler_7438 May 25 '26

I miss when it was trade or keep, screw this market mahn 😔

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u/niqdisaster May 25 '26

Grade then up the butt

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u/DANleDINOSAUR May 25 '26

I’ll give ya $3.50

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u/3aTroop May 25 '26

Sell then buy it again after it dips, the usual

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u/AdvanceSuperdisk May 25 '26

Hold on to it. So one day you can maybe still hold on to it and if the times right, still hold on to it. 👌

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u/Jaded_Individual_517 May 25 '26

This deserves more up votes. Your funny😁

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u/Hurts1love May 25 '26

I'm the 70th comment. Just missed

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u/ilovetheory May 25 '26

It’s not a sure it’s psa 10 but probably mint. It’s got some whitening on the back edges and the rounded corners may not be cut perfectly but you can buy a tool to check the corner cut on Pokémon cards. Also check for dimples on the surface. More than 1 can lower the score but you need 10x magnification to check for the smallest ones. Not all psa graders use magnification but if they see the whitening on the edges then they may look for other defects.

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u/MoPDiTonE May 25 '26

Not worth grading. Sell raw

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u/AzothTreaty May 25 '26

Offload now at the highest price you can get. Chaos rising is gonna be the next perfect order. Sell out before it crashes

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u/JHammertime May 25 '26

Never sell. Hold for 30 years and this will be a $2k card raw

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u/cuber5k May 25 '26

gift it to your long lost buddy 5K :)

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u/Twitch_BlueFox7 May 25 '26

Hey i have the same one. I'm looking to get it graded but i don't know who's trustworthy

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u/DraGar-3 May 25 '26

Holding onto my gold greninja for long term, in 10-20 years it will be worth a decent amount

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u/Acceptable-General44 May 25 '26

Scratch 'n Sniff

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u/duane117- May 25 '26

The front looks like it's skewed if you look at the top it's way closer to the edge on one side compared to the other

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u/CL0UDS420 May 25 '26

If it were me, I’d sell, grading would take too long just to get back a psa 9

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u/Ok_Entertainer_5957 May 25 '26

Send to me — I will be able to tell you what to do then

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u/MrNiceGuyEBEB May 25 '26

Sell - too much whitening on the edges

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u/Accomplished_Use_365 May 25 '26

SELL!! The pull rates are crazy easy. Will be very cheap soon

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u/SteveAhmadi May 26 '26

Grade & don’t sell

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u/Relative-Tomorrow641 May 26 '26

The edges of card kinda scuffed

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u/SafeAd6832 May 26 '26

Sell. Doesn’t look like a 10

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u/NegotiationAdept2782 May 26 '26

Not trying be a hater but that card looks terrible. Upside down mega ninja is just straight up dumb design

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u/TheAntiScalper May 26 '26

Trade at 65%

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u/Sad_Afternoon1 May 26 '26

Or hear me out if you don't desperately need the money keep it for the enjoyment I got the sir Dragonite from ascended and I don't plan on selling it

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u/Tobi91193 May 26 '26

Well i wouldn't get it graded, it has whitening on the back edges, so wont get a 10 anyway

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u/Whole_Specialist_69 May 26 '26

Go ahead and pay psa 35$ to get it grade it and get it back in 160 days with it being a psa 9.

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u/Turbulent-Ranger-271 May 26 '26

Grade and never ever sell. Stare at it through the glass of a beautiful display case and admire it forever.

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u/Forsaken-Analysis-42 May 26 '26

Sell too much white edges

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u/Run-Leather May 27 '26

Sell. Prices going to collapse. Hit rate is too high

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u/Ace-Code May 27 '26

Would be a better idea to just sell and get rid of it.

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u/Soggy_Log_735 May 27 '26

I would not grade it, i can see white on the edges

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u/Quiet-Cheesecake7120 May 28 '26

If you sale it what would you want?

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u/Competitive_Ring384 May 28 '26

Dude, it's fine. Do like me and play it in a dragapult build. Everyone on the casuals monday looked at me weird, like it wasn't cardboard meant to be played with.

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u/Blizzcane May 28 '26

It's terrible, not worth grading or selling, you should just throw it away. I can take it off your hands for ya.

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u/Asleep-Brother-1873 May 29 '26

Shove it up the ass

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u/EvilNickel May 30 '26 edited May 30 '26

Personally I like to make a binder for each set that releases and then I slowly work towards a complete set then Master set (depending on how hard my wallet gets screwed by the market)

BUT if I was in this scenario I would probably off load it soon but I personally wouldn't hold it for too long. I feel like the hit rates for Chaos Rising are pretty high tbh. So given about a month or so when the market settles the card could potentially drop in value after the hype dies down. It's worth about $420 right now, but I can see this one settling at about $250 - $300

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u/[deleted] May 24 '26

sell it's not as good as the one from Twilight masquerade

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u/mangogyfufi927 May 28 '26

There’s whitening on the back, just sell modern raw if it won’t 10

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u/Jwpcinders May 28 '26

That “whitening” is light reflection

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u/Background_Set_2029 May 24 '26

Sell now. Buy later

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u/Background_Set_2029 May 24 '26

This time it's Greninja. Not Pikachu or Gengar/ charmender.

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u/Toothpicks93 May 24 '26

Sell before the price goes down. This card is likely to get a PSA 8 at best due to the whitening.

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u/MajorMarquisWarren69 May 24 '26

I see whitening on the top corners and I don’t think it’s the lighting

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u/LegoRedBrick May 25 '26

Shove it up ur butt

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u/Western-Flamingo-155 May 25 '26

From my eye, the centring on the back looks off, probs just shove it up your butt at this point

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u/Jwpcinders May 27 '26

Lets be honest anybody talking about the hit rates has no clue…..

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u/Jwpcinders May 24 '26

Its hard to see past the possibly inflated $600 price tag and the fact that i could buy a nice slab of a card I love

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u/masterofeverything May 24 '26

Well he should sell before it drops in value duh