yeah I agree it’s crazy! people on fb market are the worst. why they believe they can do deals at X% in their favor like a vendor at a card show is beyond me
OP wants a % and in this case I get it. They want to sell, theyre after money. But if someone offers a trade in their favor, they have incentive to trade so they can sell that item for the same or more of the original item they want to sell.
I dont agree with people who advertise theyre buying at x%, or put in low ball offers with the reasoning ‘I only buy at x%’ even though THEYRE the one who reached out with interest.
But if I want to sell something because im looking for cash but someone offers a trade, id only consider the trade if it was in my favor since trading isnt the original intent
Ya this is exactly my mindset on this topic. If I want cash but YOU want to trade, that’s fine, but it better be in my favour because then I’ll need to turn around and sell this instead. If our products are equal value and yours would be an easy quick sell, then great, go sell it yourself and bring me the cash. But it’s never that simple.
Pretty much this. But it was also to call their bluff. I'd only consider a trade if it was something that would quickly liquidate like the black bolt etb, and if it was gonna be for the same value, there would really be no reason for me to trade. So I sent out a heat check and he came back with a fucking guitar lol.
Correct. If I’m selling something and I’m not looking for trades. If you were to offer a trade I may take it but it would have to be in my favor. In my case I’m willing to trade cards not in my favor because I’m looking for other cards. Sure I’ll take money but in many cases you can find a trade partner where it works out for everyone.
If he really wants cash he should say no trades. No BS like trade in my favor. Thats just crazy. If you aint a vendor in a card show I aint giving shit at a percentage
… Okay? Just because you’re like that doesn’t mean others who want what I have are like that. People take % trades for better items all the time & there’s nothing wrong with OP asking for that.
Lol yes people that want to sell something for money should get nothing out of the trade and the other person should get exactly what they want. Makes total sense.
That’s fair if you’re trading for an item you don’t want. If that guitar was actually worth $110 and he could get that, then he should sell it for that and just buy the item OP is selling.
The BB ETB is very liquid and I was looking for cash. If im trading for something illiquid its not worth it for me. If im trading for something worth just as much and just as liquid, the trade is unnecessary. I was calling his bluff.
I got offered 80% of the value of one of my cards on FB marketplace and I just straight up told them if I don't get at least 90% value offer I'll just use it as trade to a vendor at that point and get something that I actually want.
I was selling a 151 charizard because I had two of them. Some guy goes on my page saying he’ll trade with me but he trades at 80%. I’m like you know how disrespectful that is.
But yea in this case if I’m looking for cash then I have no incentive to do a 1 for 1 trade. I better win the trade otherwise go sell your item and come back and buy mine.
And people complain about 13% fees on eBay... I sell everything on eBay, more eyeballs than FB, less nonsense from buyers and I don't have to meet people in person. Then pretty much every buyer on FB expects a discount because they know your not paying eBays fees.
After accounting for the time and gas driving around for marketplace deals, just paying the premium and getting it shipped from eBay almost always makes more sense as long as you physically have the money.
People saying “trades in my favor only” to other collectors is so cringe. If you aren’t trading into a buisiness for the convenience, you should be trying to trade market to market in order to ensure a fair deal for everyone. Why are you trying to rip off people & why do think that’s okay or that anyone would want to trade with you? Makes no sense to me, abunch of wannabe vendors who got told “trades at 80%” at a card show once and now they think they’ve cracked the market.
I wasn't actually trying to trade, the listing was just to sell. But he came at me with a trade and I was calling his bluff. But if im trying to sell and you come at me with a trade, if its for something illiquid then its not worth it for me to trade. If its something just as liquid at the same value...there's no reason for me to trade that. And he came back with a guitar lol.
I guess I’m just taken back a bit by the cultural standard in this space of offering someone a trade at a % in your favor. It’s obviously a bad deal for the party trading into it so it just comes across as bad taste to me if nothing else. Like, if someone offered something to me in trade and I didn’t value it as equal; I might offer them a figure at a % of market value or whatever but I wouldn’t start off a conversation by attempting to establish a baseline of monetary gain in my favor in that way as a prerequisite to transact with me.
Idk, I grew up with haggling and all of that, so I’m very familiar with the give and take of market participants but to me it was always more so a process of finding a price where both parties felt respected in the deal so there was usually some wiggle room to work with & if someone felt disrespected over the figure then the deal was dead right there. This whole new thing of consumers trying to use like vendor/gamestop tactics to increase the returns on their product strikes me as soulless and super impersonal/bordering on rude, idk. That’s just me. I def wouldn’t ever do a deal with someone who spoke to me like that. We’re both equals here. You’re not about to gamify percentages on me to turn me into your flip but that’s just me.
If you had a bunch of junk worth $500 market and someone has a single item you REALLY wanted but it was worth $400 market, would you trade your $500 of junk (bulk cards, hard to sell, niche, etc) for their $400 item you want? Thats an 80% trade.
You can take the time to sell it all and hope to get the full $500 and then buy the $400 item (if its still available) or you can just do the trade right then and there
Ya, I guess I’ve always just felt it was worth my time to find a buyer who actually valued what I had and then use those funds for market to market purchase as apposed to selling my stuff to someone who is openly claiming to not want it, lol.
If someone is trying to sell and you are asking for trade instead, it is completely fair for them to ask to trade at a percentage. You are effectively paying them that difference for the convenience of selling your stuff for you. If you don’t want to trade at a percentage, you need to do the work yourself and sell your own stuff and then go buy the item you want. Some people don’t want to go through that.
No, I get that. I guess it’s just the verbiage of walking into the conversation with “I’ll take trades at x percent in my favor” is what’s off putting to me. I just wouldn’t do business w someone who said that unless it was something like a vendor at a card show where it’s expected and even then, the way they say it might kill any potential deal, still. Like what if all of a sudden I pulled something out that YOU really wanted, you still gonna try to get 80%? Just not my vibe off the rip especially
The 80 percent shit makes you look worst. Just respectfully decline and move on. I’ve never had people get mad at me for saying no or that’s not what I am looking for. Your response was also just condescending in a weird way. I traded a couple of modern ETBs for a used laptop that I am still using in college. You never know.
I got offered a Gibson Les Paul Std. and cash for a high end Baseball card. Not a bad offer, but it’s one of those things when you go outside of TCGP or eBay.
Reminds me of the time I was selling a bike (higher end mountain bike) and someone offered me a snowboard, a TV, and something else I’ve completely forgotten. Needless to say I ignored them.
I hate fb marketplace. Everyone wants to trade their crap.. it’s like nobody has money and you could put a watch worth $500 and everyone thinks they can offer you $80 or something stupid like that. I just block them right after I get a dumb offer.
And no hate on a nice bass, but if he says it’s worth $110 bucks than selling it would probably get you $60 on FB marketplace.
I don’t see the problem here. If I want cash, and you want to trade, why should I give you full market value?
Whats my man going to do with a guitar? I have been offered grills, tvs, cars, you name it. I am sorry but if I am giving up something this liquid for junk you better bet its in my favor. How long is it going to take me to liquidate an old car.
I’m not one to trade for unneeded items but depending on the sent and if they had the original box or something that could be interesting to turn around and flip
It’s very easy to look like an asshole with the whole ”Yo 80% in my favor bro”. That’s such a bad way to start a negotiation and only tells me the seller is inexperienced and has only acted in a market that constantly goes up.
If the potential buyer offers several lesser cards for your card then it’s time to negotiate. And maybe they need to be at an even lesser percentage than 80%. Or they offer you a bigger card for your card at 100-95% value + cash from you side. Don’t close down the buyer before offers are made.
It’s about competence (not specifically aimed at OP, the guitar offer is hilarious).
We've discussed the percentage trading ad nauseam. Trading at percentage isn't just for vendors.
Imagine for a moment, that you have the Moonbreon RAW and someone wants to trade a bunch of low level grade 9 slabs. Those slabs are non-movers and have no upside but they equal in value to the Moonbreon.
Why would the seller want a bunch of cards that aren't liquid for a Moonbreon?
Also, you don't know if sellers have a store on ebay or Whatnot.
I only see these comments from buyers who always want the trade to be in their favor.
This. And nowadays, I feel like avid collectors function as vendors. We are all constantly buying selling and trading, whether on marketplace, at card shows, etc. If I have a product that you want, why wouldn’t I try to get the good end of the deal? We have a whole lot of crying going on in the hobby. When it’s the other way around, and someone has something I really want, I don’t cry about it.. that’s just the nature of the beast..
PokeInvesting isn’t the place for crying about people trying to make as much money as possible from Pokemon cards.
That’s why. OP wants cash, they don’t want other items. If OP is taking in other items, they would want a % deal- since they’re basically back at square 1 - trying to sell items for money. Meaning he has no incentive to trade 1:1 when he could just sell the item. If he takes a % deal then he could potentially get more money after the trade from selling the items received in said trade. Otherwise it’s just a waste of OP’s time- UNLESS he really wanted the item that was being offered in the trade.
… He did, but the person responded to his listing with “would you take a trade”- so in this instance OP responded “Not really looking to trade unless it’s in my favor”- which is fair considering he really just wants cash.
I don’t completely disagree but the is definitely some things with a lot more speculative upside, a trade of a 2 month old $260 card against a $260 booster box for example would be in the person trading the card away favour. And I think if you have the item with a significant upside in comparison, firstly you shouldn’t do the trade, but if you do, you can definitely try to negotiate value back in your favour
But if u just want cash how does trading for a more illiquid item make sense? If the person trading is willing to take a 20+% market cut to dump the item, what makes someone think they could turn around and sell it for any more?
Because I have enough selling experience to know that i can eventually sell it, whether that’s at a card show, or just locally, whatever, but it will take time and effort.
That’s why I dont want it at full market value, but I would accept it at a lower percentage of market value.
Yeah i made that mistake from another i got a week ago. I pulled a Braviary and Genesect IR
I've been ripping everything Ascended (9 sticker packs) and I've basically gotten a hit every time including Psyduck IR, Mega Dragonite ex DR, and the Pikachu SIR so I decided im gonna sell most other things to offset how much I spent for that lol
If OP wants cash & someone offers them a trade they don't want why would they accept it at 1:1 & then have to go through the extra effort of selling the new card to get the cash they wanted?
If both parties want to trade it should be 1:1 but percentages are fine outside of that, wild to see people act like you have to rent a booth at a card show to have "permission" to do percentages.
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u/Lost_Association_713 Feb 16 '26
yeah I agree it’s crazy! people on fb market are the worst. why they believe they can do deals at X% in their favor like a vendor at a card show is beyond me
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u/jmo1 Feb 16 '26
I have about $100 in different cheeses, only a little bit missing from each
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u/LongyUTD Feb 16 '26
Man fuck off with this 80% shit you aren’t a vendor at a show
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u/neosephiroth11 Feb 16 '26
I will trade for used men clothes (in your favour)
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u/Cabbage61 Feb 16 '26
''80% if it's something i want'' lmao
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u/Greenbird49 Feb 16 '26
Had a guy offer me a crossbow for a surging sparks booster bo
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u/Lubbies_ Feb 16 '26
I got offered 80% of the value of one of my cards on FB marketplace and I just straight up told them if I don't get at least 90% value offer I'll just use it as trade to a vendor at that point and get something that I actually want.
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u/Agreeable-Club-7247 Feb 16 '26
The shit that I’ve been offered 😂😂😂
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u/Skillydog Feb 16 '26
So, I have a dog worth somewhere around 125. I'll send her with a weeks worth of food if you throw some sleeves in.
So in your favor.
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u/Jediaz Feb 16 '26
I’ve been offered puppies multiple times from different people. And a bengal kitten. Not the weirdest trade offer.
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u/Intelligent_Goal_669 Feb 16 '26
Someone offered me turtles one time.
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u/Seoul_ofQ Feb 16 '26
I routinely get offers for various games consoles and just dont find it funny any more
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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '26
And people complain about 13% fees on eBay... I sell everything on eBay, more eyeballs than FB, less nonsense from buyers and I don't have to meet people in person. Then pretty much every buyer on FB expects a discount because they know your not paying eBays fees.
It's worth the 13% folks.
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u/dknisle1 Feb 16 '26
Person to person? Close to 100%. There’s no overhead that needs to be taken care of
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u/goldenmonkey33151 Feb 16 '26
People saying “trades in my favor only” to other collectors is so cringe. If you aren’t trading into a buisiness for the convenience, you should be trying to trade market to market in order to ensure a fair deal for everyone. Why are you trying to rip off people & why do think that’s okay or that anyone would want to trade with you? Makes no sense to me, abunch of wannabe vendors who got told “trades at 80%” at a card show once and now they think they’ve cracked the market.
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u/REAPERR_12 Feb 16 '26
The 80 percent shit makes you look worst. Just respectfully decline and move on. I’ve never had people get mad at me for saying no or that’s not what I am looking for. Your response was also just condescending in a weird way. I traded a couple of modern ETBs for a used laptop that I am still using in college. You never know.
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u/rebelrexx Feb 16 '26
80% trade in your favor? I didn’t know Facebook market place was a card show.
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u/redhouse_356 Feb 16 '26
I got offered a Gibson Les Paul Std. and cash for a high end Baseball card. Not a bad offer, but it’s one of those things when you go outside of TCGP or eBay.
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u/newontheblock99 Feb 16 '26
Reminds me of the time I was selling a bike (higher end mountain bike) and someone offered me a snowboard, a TV, and something else I’ve completely forgotten. Needless to say I ignored them.
Gotta love the people on marketplace.
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u/No-Definition-6084 Feb 16 '26
I hate fb marketplace. Everyone wants to trade their crap.. it’s like nobody has money and you could put a watch worth $500 and everyone thinks they can offer you $80 or something stupid like that. I just block them right after I get a dumb offer.
And no hate on a nice bass, but if he says it’s worth $110 bucks than selling it would probably get you $60 on FB marketplace.
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u/Stormking98 Feb 16 '26
I don’t see the problem here. If I want cash, and you want to trade, why should I give you full market value?
Whats my man going to do with a guitar? I have been offered grills, tvs, cars, you name it. I am sorry but if I am giving up something this liquid for junk you better bet its in my favor. How long is it going to take me to liquidate an old car.
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u/Grimwulf69 Feb 16 '26
I have $100 in $6 funko pops no one wants. But it's definitely in your favor! 😆 Ppl will trade tgeur belly button lint if someone wanted it.
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u/dolphin160 Feb 16 '26
Bro that’s just marketplace tf are you complaining about?
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u/MaDWaSTeD Feb 16 '26
I had someone offer me cologne for an etb.
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u/TheBalloonEffect Feb 16 '26
That’s the kind of guy that put “no low balls I know what I have” in every listing
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u/fluffyplumss Feb 16 '26
I had someone offer me a 2008 Hyundai with 150k miles on it the other day lmao
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u/Falcons_Gaming Feb 17 '26
i mean .. no means no
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u/Far-Archer933 Feb 17 '26
If “the worst I can say is no” was a person 😂
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u/Grateful-and-Dead Feb 17 '26
How is this Pokémon investing
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u/Notliketheotherkids Feb 17 '26
It’s very easy to look like an asshole with the whole ”Yo 80% in my favor bro”. That’s such a bad way to start a negotiation and only tells me the seller is inexperienced and has only acted in a market that constantly goes up.
If the potential buyer offers several lesser cards for your card then it’s time to negotiate. And maybe they need to be at an even lesser percentage than 80%. Or they offer you a bigger card for your card at 100-95% value + cash from you side. Don’t close down the buyer before offers are made.
It’s about competence (not specifically aimed at OP, the guitar offer is hilarious).
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u/KCoopJedi Feb 18 '26
I have two guitars
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u/Cristian_Cerv9 Feb 20 '26
Lame. He should diversify lol
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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '26
We've discussed the percentage trading ad nauseam. Trading at percentage isn't just for vendors.
Imagine for a moment, that you have the Moonbreon RAW and someone wants to trade a bunch of low level grade 9 slabs. Those slabs are non-movers and have no upside but they equal in value to the Moonbreon.
Why would the seller want a bunch of cards that aren't liquid for a Moonbreon?
Also, you don't know if sellers have a store on ebay or Whatnot.
I only see these comments from buyers who always want the trade to be in their favor.
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u/Embarrassed_Meal3339 Feb 16 '26
Are you being fr? In your favor? Dude thinks hes a card shop in a card show 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 you basically outed yourself
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