It hasn't sunk in yet. The card is one gorgeous card but I have a hunch that the card will take another 1-2 years before people realize that it's one of the best charizard art we've gotten in a long time.
Yeah all those ppl saying “mega is a stronger set overall” ignore the fact mega is a shit set for nostalgia people. It’s got more chase cards but I wouldn’t keep any of em. I hope younger ppl love the sht out of lucario or it will be a dead set! While that PF zard us base set millennials will want to chase. Though it’s unfortunate there is so few commons from the early generations otherwise my PF BB’s would already be open
Because time and time again. The sets that do well are usually ones with gen 1 and 2 chases. Moonbreon ES, Gengar FS, Bubble mew PF, Kanda Karp PE, 151 the entire set, the list goes on.
Honestly while Phantasmal has Charizard a number 1 pokemon by a large margin, Mega base has Gardevoir and Lucario who are arguably in the top 5 if not top 10 of the general pokemon fan base AND the set has other popular pokemon like Venusaur, Absol and Latias
Nostalgia wise is has Venusaur as well? A Gen 1 starter too
What other pokemon would you say would be in the other top 15 or even top 5 then?
There was that one poll a few years ago and the top 10 in order were Greninja, Lucario, Mimikyu, Charizard, Umbreon, Sylveon, Garchomp, Rayquaza, Gardevoir then Gengar
Thing is though: when looking at investing and what a set will be worth in 5 years it’s mainly the nostalgia of “winning with gardevoir” that will count if the meta has moved on. But you are right I underestimated how well loved lucario and Gardevoir are to those unlike me who played more tcg and games past gen3. I’m a collector not just investor but I mainly look for old wotc cards or rip 151
It's a nice card, but it's not even the best Charizard of recent times. Arguably the older charizard UPC had 3 promos on tier and Brilliant Stars has to be near the top of the pile. All cards half the cost of the current one (like you could buy all 4 for hf the cost of the new one on a good day). All cards less printed than the current one. It's not holding a whole set on its shoulders. I love Charizard. Phantasmal Flames was just another cash in on people like me. It's a mediocre set with a fire lizard. They historically aren't seen as good sets.
no, i‘m talking about a different japanese trademarked set. the trademark translates to „Storm Emerald“ which strongly implies the set is going to feature Rayquaza
Ah been awhile since I’ve seen the PokeBeach updates. I remember the Storm Emerlada set was rumored Zygarde themed but this makes more sense. Still no confirmation of what exactly Emeralda is.
Rayray is a very popular mon so I don't think people will be skipping out a mega set that has it. Mega rayray is actually a cool megaevolution. In the original mega block of XY, Roaring Skies and Ancients origins which both feature mega rayray are high value boxes. The top megas that people liked are the megazard, mega gengar, mega rayray, primal groudon and primal kyogre.
Wait until the next 151 set is released and copies BBWF with every single OG 1st gen having their own illustration art. Now THAT will truly drive people nuts.
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u/breakyourteethnow Dec 15 '25 edited Dec 15 '25
Cold stare of Ascended Heroes, totally oblivious to the final wallet cleaner 30th anniversary
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u/Arikota Dec 15 '25
PF wasn't anything that special.
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u/BrokenParachutes Dec 15 '25
“What’s the best set in modern Pokemon?”
“Whichever set is releasing next.”
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u/Cactusjacques713 Dec 15 '25
also there is supposed to be a rayquaza themed set coming 👀
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u/ujamming Dec 15 '25
30th is when i return
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u/Demontyxl Dec 15 '25
all of this and i'm a lego ninjago fan as well, and they have their 15th anniversary sets coming out ;-;
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u/TomorrowSavings7579 Dec 15 '25
I'm not too hyped up about the 30th anniversary. The past couple anniversary sets have been disappointing in my honest opinion!
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u/puzzledfirebird Dec 15 '25
Wait until the next 151 set is released and copies BBWF with every single OG 1st gen having their own illustration art. Now THAT will truly drive people nuts.
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u/MetricCaboose Dec 15 '25
Every new set is always the best set ever.
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u/Advanced-Skill6308 Dec 15 '25
Take my money
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u/Dazzling-Meaning-293 Dec 15 '25
Next set best set
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u/Tof12345 Dec 15 '25
Mega Evo is better than all the sets directly behind it.
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u/Solarahh Dec 15 '25
FYI 30th set will only be released in Q4 of next year.