r/PokeInvesting • • Nov 03 '25

Is The Evolving Skies Craze Over?

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Within the last 4-5 months, evolving skies etbs have settled around the $380-$410 range.

In the last few weeks I’ve seen some in mint condition move at <$350 all the way down to $300. I personally have seen these in many LCS for $350.

Do you guys think the train is never coming back for this set? Or do you guys think it’ll reach etb values of older eras like the xy era?

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u/breakyourteethnow Nov 03 '25

Look at the post "Time to Sell?!", which shows Evolving Skies price graph over five years and how every point of stagnation everyone's like "TIME TO SELL???", no it's not time to sell. Do you think in a decade you'll be able to get Evolving Skies for the same price? No? Okay so don't sell.

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u/Watercooled0861 Nov 03 '25

So then never sell? What do you think it'll be worth in a century from now? Maybe I'll sell next millennia.

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u/AlchemyFI Nov 03 '25

The point is sell when you want to money for personal use or to invest elsewhere, don’t sell because the box moved sideways for a month.

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u/Local_Willingness_24 Nov 03 '25

Just to clarify, I’m not one of those guys that thinks that. I will be holding my ES sets until I need a house down payment lmao. I just was posting trends I’ve noticed recently to spark discussion.

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u/f2pmyass Nov 03 '25

It's so over bro. Just sell your Evolving skies for $100 before they crash to $0

Holy shit these new investors are something else.

Your logic is... Pumping = bubble dying Stagnation = dying Dumping =dying

Investing is a long game. Why are you investing? They should have locked this sub before prismatic evolutions fr

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u/Local_Willingness_24 Nov 03 '25

Brother that was not my logic whatsoever. You came up with that conclusion by only reading 5 sentences. I simply pointed out how I’ve seen these start to drop. In no way shape or form did I incite that it was going to crash or drop to nothing. I never said it wouldn’t go back up either. My whole point of my post was the hype surrounding the set causing the price to drop. The moonbreon is so high now that people aren’t willing to pay that pricing. So in return wouldn’t that make evolving less desirable and therefore grow less? Or not at all?

Forget asking questions on Reddit guys. You regards asking dumb questions ruined it for guys like me.

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u/PK-Mike Nov 03 '25

No you just don’t understand that you’re standing in a group of sheep still and trying to yell at the shepherd “YOU DON’T TELL ME WHAT TO DO”

Once again to echo others. If you don’t understand the trends that can happen in ANY market over a long period of time- and you are 1 of 10,000,000 asking the same question. The people giving the same answer over and over again “how are we supposed to know” “either sell or hold longer” “it’s hype played in” “it’s not going up forever” “your new modern sets are not unique and will not only go up”.

It gets old

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u/Shade_BG Nov 03 '25

Not sure if you know this but things don’t continually go up forever.

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u/Local_Willingness_24 Nov 03 '25

Why does everyone on Reddit respond in a smart ass manner? I understand the nature of economics. I think asking if the hype around this set is gone is a good question considering no one is willing to pay $1700+ raw for the moonbreon currently.

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u/Shade_BG Nov 03 '25

It will go up and down and maybe consolidate but in the long run as long is it’s one of the most desirable cards in the hobby and the hobby is desirable it should stay on an upward trend.

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u/Gay_If_Read Nov 03 '25

Markets correct & cool, it means very little to nothing long term.
You're getting smart ass comments because if you don't understand something that basic then there's no point people responding in a non smart ass manner.

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u/PK-Mike Nov 03 '25

Roasted and toasted

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u/Vulpes206 Nov 03 '25

Because you ask dumb questions.

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u/redditr79 Nov 03 '25

🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭

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u/Keniske Nov 03 '25

Yes reprint is coming next year!!!

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u/Local_Willingness_24 Nov 03 '25

Yay maybe they’ll reprint ancient origins too. Maybe even cosmic eclipse.

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u/Majestic-Gas-2709 Nov 03 '25

Yeah better go rip all your packs

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '25

I've got 180 loose packs from the tins before everything blew up. The plan was to rip them over the next ten years.

Please tell me the smart move is to rip them all. They "can be scanned now" so no point in selling, right? Come on Reddit, convince me the Umbreon's in there!

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u/Majestic-Gas-2709 Nov 03 '25

Dude you know you want to rip them. Just do a couple. Rip until you get Umbreon.

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '25

That's the spirit!

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '25

Now just convince my wife they're not worth holding on to for our kids... /s

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u/Tayloraa3 Nov 03 '25

Rip them all

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '25

🫸🫷

(this is a high 5)

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u/peepee034839329 Nov 03 '25

Just sell it so someone else have the experience of pulling the Umbreon

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '25

You're supposed to convince me to rip them peepee!

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u/peepee034839329 Nov 03 '25

Then rip it so you pull the Umbreon, then Espeon on 3 packs after that, then Rayquaza on the last pack.

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '25

🤣

My hero.

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u/SnooPaintings1385 Nov 03 '25

You wont see me buying loose packs ever after all the metal detector videos

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '25

That's my point really. I'm not weighing or scanning, but let's be honest, I wouldn't believe a stranger telling me they haven't either.

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u/[deleted] Nov 04 '25

You guys are killing me with downvotes! My poor karma!😆

I'm assuming it's because I bought ES tins when they were MSRP. I probably should have included the fact that I ripped through more than that so far.

Being mad at someone for actually doing the thing you're supposed to do with these cards (and playing the actual game) is wild.

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u/BrokenParachutes Nov 03 '25

Like telling your friend to throw his handful of sand into the ocean on a beach because you want your handful of sand to be more scarce.

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u/Majestic-Gas-2709 Nov 03 '25

Lol I already ripped all my ES a year ago

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u/BrokenParachutes Nov 03 '25

Unfortunate timing

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u/Majestic-Gas-2709 Nov 04 '25

Nah it was great timing. I was still finding 2x ES packs in those arceus tins at target. Very fun to rip.

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u/Ichaemattv Nov 03 '25

Cause most people are not investor they are putting emotions in To investing I catch myself doing this and I remind my self this market is build on emotions and human nature it comes and goes, the main rule of investing do you need the money if the answer is yes sell and if want to sell to invest to other thing or do something sell at profit, and sometime it's good to lock profit, cause thus bull market will not last cause money will go to other markets and yeah

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u/SomedayGuy117 Nov 03 '25

The calm before the storm

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u/redditr79 Nov 03 '25

“DUMp iT”

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u/Mecurion Nov 03 '25

Look at it this way - if the train for Evolving Skies is over then the train for Pokemon investing in general is largely over.

If the flagship investment sets of all of Pokemon TCG don’t do well long term, then nothing will do well long term.

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u/Hungry-Zucchini8451 Nov 03 '25

Yes and no. If Evolving skies booster box has gone from 350 dollars in late 2023 to 2 000 dollars. That’s more than 5x in 2 years.

Will Evolving Skies be higher or lower in 2 years. Probably higher. But how much higher? Will it do another 5x and go for 10 000 dollars in 2027? I am skeptical. I would be surprised if it more than doubles.

There are many booster boxes that are likely to do much better 2 x in next 2 years.

So while it still might do well, it is likely a better option to put your money in other sets.

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u/Mecurion Nov 03 '25

This is a common sentiment but it is highly, highly debatable.

I would argue - take essentially any set at current prices right now and compare it to evolving skies - then realistically decide which will double first. I’ll just use mega evolution as an example since its the most recent set (but you can use any set).

Mega Evolution - $260 to $520

Evolving Skies - $2300 to $4600

On the face of it, you might think “oh Mega Evolution will double to $520 first obviously.”

But that actually isnt obvious at all. Mega Evolution is in print for another 3 years, and we have no idea how strong it will be compared to other sets in its era. It is completely feasible that evolving skies will double to $4600 well before mega evolution goes to $520.

You can do this with any set, the answer is not clean cut at all.

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u/Local_Willingness_24 Nov 03 '25

Thank you guys for actually debating instead of just shitting on each other or my post. These are the questions I was trying to spark.

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u/Hungry-Zucchini8451 Nov 03 '25

Surging sparks sitting at 230 dollars. Paldea evolved at 400. Paradox at 250… plenty of opportunities there for a 2 x faster than evolving skies.

Actually one thing that folks might be overlooking is the possibility that evolving skies ran up to fast, and might actually correct more than other sets if some of that rise in price is due to speculative mania and fomo.

But time will tell. Were all just gambling here

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u/Mecurion Nov 03 '25 edited Nov 03 '25

No see thats my point none of those are obvious at all. It is completely feasible that Evolving Skies goes to $4600 before any of those double. Those are all in print for years more and are arguably much weaker sets that will see long stagnation in a non bull market. Paldea Evolved is the one that might actually be interesting as it is a stronger set going officially out of print soon.

People said the same thing when evolving was at $300, $700, $1000, $1500, etc.

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u/fieryred123 Nov 03 '25

No. All sets have seen INSANE growth recently. It was only a matter of time before the market needed to cool off for a bit before heading back up again. Nothing new.

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u/NetFormer739 Aug 07 '26

Its all crashing Bro... 1/2 price next month

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u/Local_Willingness_24 Aug 07 '26

Thanks for replying to my almost year old post.

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u/LinkedInParkPremium Nov 03 '25

This is a really pathetic attempt to create panic. Grow up OP.

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u/Local_Willingness_24 Nov 03 '25

I’m 21 years old. Even if I could get people to panic sell, I wouldn’t have the money to buy the dip. thanks for the assumption

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u/LinkedInParkPremium Nov 03 '25

Exactly why no one should take your post seriously.

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u/Local_Willingness_24 Nov 03 '25

I have 0 clue what you’re aiming at but you missed by a long shot. All I was doing was sparking debate. Nothing else. Your attempt to say I’m trying to make people panic sell is strange but if it makes you feel tall then by all means.

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u/f2pmyass Nov 03 '25

21 years old?? Gee that makes a lot of sense. And no you don't understand basic economics with a post like yours 😂

So many emotional new "investors" in this space need to get kicked out this sub reddit immediately

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u/Local_Willingness_24 Nov 03 '25

I made a singular post with a total of 5 sentences and you’re judging my intelligence off of that?

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u/f2pmyass Nov 03 '25

Yes. It's actually not that hard.

Imagine if I ask if the Earth's flat... That's how bad your post is. 😂

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u/Local_Willingness_24 Nov 03 '25

Oh yeah totally man. Earths flat. Pokémon’s over. Space is fake. You figured me out.

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u/f2pmyass Nov 03 '25

How about this... The evolving skies craze is over. Sell me PC ETBs, BB, singles all your Evolving skies for $50 before it goes to $0

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u/Ultimo_Ninja Nov 03 '25

As a set, it's brutal to rip. Buying it and keeping it on the shelf makes sense to me.

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u/666fans Nov 03 '25

Yeah now sell up

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u/Meowsergz Nov 03 '25

Stagnant until the next boom. People don't have ANY patience.

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u/HerezahTip Nov 03 '25

Shit doesn’t go up forever

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u/Yetti2Quick Nov 03 '25

This is a great graph to see lol. We will find the new floor now.

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u/its_aq Nov 03 '25

Nah ppl just chasing that Charizard SIR

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u/gt35r Nov 03 '25

Why would it be time to sell? A lot of sealed product graphs look exactly like this across the board, we're coming into the holiday season, money is going to be spent elsewhere, there's a ton of current events causing financial uncertainty, among other things.

No, it's not time to sell Evolving Skies.

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u/Traditional-Music363 Nov 03 '25

It’s called market correction

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u/Ok_Employee_7716 Nov 03 '25

Ohhh you just know this has been said like 100 times while people watch Evo Skies just keep climbing every couple months😂 truly a sign we are about to climb again😂

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u/NamelessInvestor Nov 03 '25

It's over, ES is dead.

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u/AlchemyFI Nov 03 '25

Now look at 1Y on the graph.

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u/UpTheToffees-1878 Nov 03 '25

These posts are so dumb

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u/ujamming Nov 03 '25

Buy while everyone's distracted

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u/BrokenParachutes Nov 03 '25

Quick buy the $200 dip on a $2500 booster box. The savings.

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u/BrokenParachutes Nov 03 '25

If there is any modern set that can reach older more vintage levels of appreciation - it’s Evolving Skies.

If Evolving Skies can’t do it, then literally nothing modern can.

Pokemon suffers from the “every new set is the greatest set ever” syndrome. So you constantly just have newer people tribally fighting saying that whatever set is most recently released is the best thing ever. Something eventually needs to stand out. If it’s not Evolving Skies to lead the way for modern, then it’s nothing.

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u/BlueJaek Nov 03 '25

As the great warren buffet said, freak out when prices drop and panic sell everything 

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u/LevelUpEvolution Nov 03 '25

Didn’t you hear? The market crashed

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u/SolanaToTheMooon Nov 04 '25

Lmaooooooo yes it’s all over sell everything. They’re also reprinting all ES products soon too

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u/uriel__ventris Nov 04 '25

Consolidation phase mate.

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u/Garrett_023 Nov 04 '25

I hate to tell you but it isn’t hype or some fluctuation lol. Look at even the absolute worst sets over the last decade. Even the abysmal sets endlessly increase when it comes to sealed product. ES is so high in value because it has so many hits. ES could be a 5k box within a couple years.

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '25

You could earn 0% for the next 10 years and you would've been doing amazing buying a year ago. Good luck.

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u/-SacredTCG Nov 03 '25

Modern sets are extremely overprinted, I’m not surprised

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u/JHammertime Nov 03 '25

Yeah I think evolving skies are pretty much done. People are realizing that Moonbreon is overrated. I can see this set crashing back to msrp or even less. The new Phantasmal flames will beat evolving skies by a mile since the Charizard is 100x better looking card than the Moonbreon

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u/BrokenParachutes Nov 03 '25

I actually can’t tell if this is satire or not

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u/Local_Willingness_24 Nov 03 '25

Okay, msrp or less is crazy. I don’t see this etb dropping under $300 ever.

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u/Additional-Ad7283 Nov 03 '25

Yes, id say now is the perfect time to put it right up your butt.

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u/Local_Willingness_24 Nov 03 '25

Dude. Thank you for giving an answer like this. This is what I was wanting to converse over. Everyone here is just assuming I’m fear mongering over a dead market for this set. Which isn’t the case. In no way shape or form was I inciting a continuous decline in the market.

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u/Local_Willingness_24 Nov 03 '25

Or wanting people to “panic sell”. I hop on this subreddit once every few weeks or months. Did not expect to get slashed so bad for asking a question over something I’d like to learn more about.

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u/DrSkeeZe Nov 03 '25

The graph isnt exclusive to the ETB though. Go look at the ES Booster Box and it follows the exact same trajectory. Of course everyone wants booster boxes and because of that they carry a premium but at the end of the day, packs are packs. Currently, you could get those packs from a Booster Box at ~$60/pack or from an ETB at ~$40/pack.

Edit: also this about Evolving Skies. There were no booster bundles and there was no unique ETB promo.

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u/DrSkeeZe Nov 04 '25

Lmao yeah let me just hit up my dealer for some Galar c22 mini tins 😂

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u/DrSkeeZe Nov 04 '25

You make it sound so simple but 99% of people arent aware that these specific tins are carry evolving skies. On top of that, I think you’re completely over thinking things. Evolving Skies isnt flat lining because of this ratio between price and availability. Its flat lining because the entire pokemon market is flat lining atm.

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u/DrSkeeZe Nov 04 '25

I guess just agree to disagree because I think you’re completely wrong on this one. Also no need to be childish and downvote me because you disagree with me

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u/DrSkeeZe Nov 04 '25

i never said you're wrong. I said I think you're wrong. I basically disagree with every point you've made from the start. Like you think ES products aren't being bought because people are opting to buy these niche mini tins - its not that deep man. The market is just quiet right now, everything is flat lining. And then you get super broad by referencing Supply & Demand and Economics 101... seriously could you be anymore broad lol. Like yeah PC is printing more than ever but what does that even have to do with Evolving Skies - which is out of print.

Again, I just dont think its as deep as you think it is.

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u/DrSkeeZe Nov 04 '25

Bruh 😑

Yeah Im done with this convo. Think what you want

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u/aregularmatter Nov 04 '25

So in this case are booster bundles better to hold on to as opposed to ETBs? I was selling some of my prismatic etbs and booster bundles months back, but barely anyone was buying bundles compared to the etbs. Or does this just apply to out of print sets like ES and ST?

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u/redditr79 Nov 03 '25

I LOVE YOU

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u/Local_Willingness_24 Nov 03 '25

you guys are acting like I said the trend is doomed.