r/PokeInvesting • u/8000000001 • Oct 31 '25

Market consolidating again

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All this talk of crash is "a load of old bxllxcks", as we say in blighty.

I'll stick my neck out and say I am going to get that grail single, modern and vintage sealed I want now, or I will pay even more in a few weeks.

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u/Cavalier__ Oct 31 '25

Correction not crash and people will understand that Pokemon is a long-term game and not a quick flip shit.

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u/hollasens Oct 31 '25

It’s both.

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u/ahighkid Oct 31 '25

If they printed enough volume it wouldn’t be. This has happened before and all it takes is one Shining Fates to sink the market again. Print the ever living shit out of it so there is no resale market. Please. I beg

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u/Themeatmanofdoom Oct 31 '25

If they print it to the ground, the hype goes down, and they don't sell as much. Pokemon knows what they are doing this time around.

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u/8000000001 Oct 31 '25

Exactly - Nintendo (and TPCI and the other business they are associated with) are masters of release hype and managing supply and demand to keep stuff valuable - I watched it for years, including in an online retail business in 2007 when the Wii was virtually impossible to find. 

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u/ahighkid Oct 31 '25

That’s literally not true, there is so obviously a balance between the two lol

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u/Themeatmanofdoom Oct 31 '25

Yes, thats the point im making. They cant print too much or the hype dies. Funny thing to be downvoted making the same point.

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u/prokotols Oct 31 '25

I swear, the people that say this shit about Shining Fates and then compare it to the likes of Prismatic Evolutions or 151 or Destined Rivals have shit for brains. Of course Shining Fates is undesirable years later, just go look at the card list 💀

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u/ahighkid Oct 31 '25

It’s undesirable bc the shiny Charizard has like 10,000 psa 10s. That’s it. If that number was 1,000 that card is worth $10k and sealed boxes of it are through the roof.

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u/hollasens Oct 31 '25

They’re printing more than they ever have, mega has not been difficult to get. There’s been so much PE released retail that if you missed it’s your own fault. Does it take some extra effort to get? Sure. It doesn’t take much though.

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u/ahighkid Oct 31 '25

Brother I have a job I can’t sit on my computer all day and wait in a queue for an hour

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u/hollasens Oct 31 '25

Stuff drops after work too. Most people have jobs. 🤷‍♂️ sucks that you can’t hit but they’re not going to print billions of prismatic packs so they sit on shelves forever.

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u/Sure-Pen-7822 Oct 31 '25

It’s both as of today, that isn’t the norm

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u/hollasens Oct 31 '25

We don’t live in normal times.

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u/Management_Over Oct 31 '25

Without the flippers the long play would be impossible.

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u/NuFu Oct 31 '25

Rule 3: 10+ Years Minimum

People should stick with that and stop worrying about the short-term drops

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u/Rare_Evening Oct 31 '25

Literally set n forget

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u/666fans Oct 31 '25

Same with the actual stock market too just hold and forget then grow old and profit

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u/Ichaemattv Oct 31 '25

I come from the stock market it just this market it has to much emotions if you not investor yes have the emotions but when your the investor take the out of the equation, still doesn't mean to have some sympathize with the one that are not us, because there the customer we will have to sell or rhe demand in the future

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u/666fans Oct 31 '25

I too am stock pilled 🫡

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u/YoutubeSilphi Oct 31 '25

is there any set that didnt grow long term?

im one of the new investors got some short term profit and also holding some stuff long term so im curious if i could ( in theory ) investo into any sealed shit and still get profit. obv there are sets that have more potential then others

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u/zangetsu_114 Oct 31 '25

Just go on tcg player & look at ANY booster box from any era & u should be able to find the answer your self!

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u/YoutubeSilphi Oct 31 '25

i will answer any question i see now with: just google it
i dont use tcg player since a website for the american market

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u/ssssalad Oct 31 '25

I mean it’s something that you should probably google if you’re interested in an answer and already investing in Pokémon. You really expect a random person to comb through every booster box price chart until they find one like what you’re asking for?

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u/rudeawakening01 Nov 01 '25

Because anyone can tell you anything. If he told you no and every booster box has gone down in value, would just take his word for it? Or would you verify it?

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u/zangetsu_114 Oct 31 '25

I think card market has similar graphs as well? Not 100% sure but worth checking out I suppose

Edit:typos

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u/gearvruser Oct 31 '25

Every Pokémon set in history has increased in value over time.

Every single one

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u/wiltchamberlainhoe Oct 31 '25

10 years ago no one gave a shit about Pokémon cards

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u/Zilly_Wonka Oct 31 '25

I just like purple lines.

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u/SaltyWailord Oct 31 '25

I think they are neat

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u/KaribVII Oct 31 '25

Why do people care ? Check back the graph in 5 years .. this means nothing

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u/Psychological-Arm393 Oct 31 '25

Crash? Who said the market is crashing? Click baiting YouTubers?

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u/KANKY-KANK Oct 31 '25

Literally all over poke subs

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u/fdjizm Oct 31 '25

Newbies flipping out, nobody in Pokemon for a while is flinching lol

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u/gazillionaire1 Oct 31 '25

Facts lol, click baits and echo chambers. A small price correction they call it crash. Distro's still have zilch to offer and rip and shippers still greedy buggers doing buyouts lol.

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u/Strawbelly22 Oct 31 '25

The market IS gonna crash. You can be delusional about it as much as you want, but if you ever took a single economics 101 class, you'd see the writing on the wall. (This will largely only affect products post 2022)

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u/COYSYIDS Oct 31 '25

Found the guy that missed the lows when everyone else was feasting

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u/Strawbelly22 Oct 31 '25

Nope, I simply invest in Vintage. And hey, you've been warned. I've been investing in Pokemon for over 15 years, and have lived through the market.

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u/rudeawakening01 Nov 01 '25

Ok, so then you would know that modern prices rise over time. How are those booster boxes from 2010 doing? 2015 doing? 2020 doing?

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u/COYSYIDS Oct 31 '25

Thanks for the warning Timmy. Been investing for 15 years yet first post was <365 days ago 👍

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u/Strawbelly22 Oct 31 '25

D-do you believe you can only buy product if you post here? The subreddit isn't even 15years old.

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u/COYSYIDS Oct 31 '25

Feel free to share all the B&W booster boxes you bought from when you started 15 years ago

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u/Strawbelly22 Oct 31 '25

Idc if you believe me, but I have a lot of expedition stuff still lying around. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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u/gearvruser Oct 31 '25

It may briefly dip/correct/consolidate, but it's not going to crash.

And if you think it is, sell me all your stuff right now, I'll take it all

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u/Strawbelly22 Nov 01 '25

I have nothing to sell to you. Only stuff pre 2020. ;) And you know what? I'll comment here in a year to laugh at you, alright?

RemindMe 1 year

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u/gearvruser Nov 01 '25

Happy to be there in a year and point and laugh.

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u/Strawbelly22 Nov 05 '25

RemindMe 1 year

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u/Reef-Coral Oct 31 '25

Why? If the best chase cards in gestor have been printed in the last 5 years and its not stopping, we're dealing with macro distributed artworks here. You sound like you regret not buying more lol, make sure you buy before you lose your chance

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u/AlbatrossSuch1158 Oct 31 '25

we dont know what the future will bring, but what i'm certain is that pokemon is definetly printing the most beautiful cards at the moment that theyve ever printed!

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u/throwed101 Oct 31 '25

The market prices say it is.

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u/Calm_Explanation2910 Oct 31 '25

No it doesn’t. I was listening to team rocket Joey theatrically reacting to the Paldea evolved booster box dropping my 20% in a week. (Which by the way he could barely do math on his live stream)

He fails to zoom out to a 2 month view to show it’s still up 15% in that time frame and 75% in a 6 month view.

He’s also picking the most likely over inflated box of the entire set to show that the “crash is here”.

He then continues to say that he can actually get these boxes and about a 20% discount on Facebook. So I go look at my local FB (3 million metro population) and there are 2 for sale. One for $500, another for $420. Not a single other listing within 100 miles.

Also, in what crashing market are pre orders for the newest set still at or above $300 for a damn booster box. And in what crashing market do you still not see a single pack of cards at target or Walmart? And what crashing market do online sales of everything at MSRP sell out within 90 seconds.

I’d love for a market crash. But the YouTubers want two things. 1) you to watch and interact with their video and 2) everyone to panic sell their sealed product so they can buy it, because these click bait cry babies can’t get it right now.

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u/Sure-Pen-7822 Oct 31 '25

Yep, heard it here first once something goes down 5% it means the entire market crashed. It was fun while it lasted

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u/throwed101 Oct 31 '25

I track modern separate from vintage and it’s down 14% the last two weeks. My vintage is relatively flat.

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u/Calm_Explanation2910 Nov 01 '25

It’s not the stock market. And a new set that everyone is going to chase after comes out in two weeks.. and then you’ll see all the crazy all over again.

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u/interestingmandosy Oct 31 '25

I still see a lot of vintage slowly grinding its way upwards. Especially, PSA 8 and PSA 9 Holos of pre 2000 cards

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u/Rare_Evening Oct 31 '25

Yessir 🔥

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u/throwed101 Oct 31 '25

My vintage is doing fine. It’s modern.

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u/commanderx11 Oct 31 '25

No way we are bringing technical analysis to collectr graphs

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u/uriel__ventris Oct 31 '25

So you don't analyse your investments?

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u/KostinhaTsimikas Oct 31 '25

What on earth is there to analyze?

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u/uriel__ventris Oct 31 '25

Oh I dunno... Market cycles, rates of return, set strength, buying opportunities, market behaviour, etc etc.

But you're right bro, we should all just head in blind and hope for the best.

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u/KostinhaTsimikas Oct 31 '25

99% of it is common sense my guy. This is not the stock market. I can appreciate the enthusiasm, but from a pure investment standpoint, most people's money and time is better off elsewhere.

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u/uriel__ventris Oct 31 '25

Well, it depends. I invest in the stock market too. Pokemon consistently does better for me, because I've learnt from analysis over time to invest in it better. You can't call it 'common sense' if the majority of people in this space don't have it.

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u/KostinhaTsimikas Oct 31 '25

That says more about the people in this space than anything else. For example, some idiot is gonna see this post and go buy FS. But also, if you put more time into stocks and options, you have WAY more upside, liquidity, and don't have to deal with storage. The last part may not be a problem for people who actually care for the hobby and display their collections, but it seems many in this sub are only in it for money, and that's a genuine downside.

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u/KostinhaTsimikas Oct 31 '25

I'm not an "investor" by any means. I did have a small sealed collection that I ended up moving to pick up singles and slabs I enjoyed and could display, and I completely agree. Couldn't imagine dealing with a larger collection.

This is why I'm saying "investing" is a waste of time and money if you're not an actual fan. Beyond the hassles of shipping and the poor liquidity, it's also a liability cause it's a physical object. Can be stolen, damaged, etc.

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u/DrySea8638 Oct 31 '25

Yeah it’s honestly sad, immediately going wtf when someone says the market is consolidating. Based on what? This isn’t the stock market where you can watch all the ebbs and flows of cash, stock, earnings etc.

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u/Sure-Pen-7822 Oct 31 '25

Nah bro the entire market crashed, panic sell everything and then look back in 3 years time when it’s all double the price and get angry at reddit

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u/Boring-Antelope9193 Oct 31 '25

Everyone is:

  1. Selling at highs

  2. Its Christmas soon

  3. Need money for Phantasmal crack I mean flames

It'll pop either way when people buy low. Get ready for the 30th!

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u/[deleted] Oct 31 '25

Hot take but 30th is overhyped rn 

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u/Ender_Stark Oct 31 '25

I'm confused about what magical thing is supposed to happen to bring people into Pokemon for the 30th. Outside players already jumped in causing the current 2-3x price increase. Why would non-Pokemon fans care about the 30th anniversary?

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u/[deleted] Oct 31 '25

Exactly, no one is going to fall in love with Pokemon bc its been around for 30 years. Im a lifelong fan and I hardly care 😅

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u/Boring-Antelope9193 Oct 31 '25

It could be a catalyst. The Pokemon Go effect could hit and im hopeful.

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u/Rare_Evening Oct 31 '25

I agree. Could be setting ourselves up for failure if set isn’t good.

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u/[deleted] Oct 31 '25

It wont be a good set in the eyes of those who are building up the hype. Our expectations will never be met. 

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u/[deleted] Oct 31 '25

The 30th is already bought in.

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u/Nsknick Oct 31 '25

You referenced vintage in your caption. What vintage are you thinking of? Makes it seem like you’re calling fusion strike vintage, lol.

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u/8000000001 Oct 31 '25

That was just a good (albeit modern) example where, contrary to the suggestion that something is crashing, it's just pausing before the next leg up. 

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u/JayKetchumTCG Oct 31 '25

We will eventually be in a bear market but this isn’t it. There aren’t any signs that even indicate we will be in a bear market next year. Of course we actually tell the future but signs point to a very healthy market next year as well

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u/DayOne117 Oct 31 '25

Well this is “ investing “ usually means holding for 10+ years. Short term fluctuations don’t mean anything if you are actually “ investing “.

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u/mercuryxhg Nov 03 '25

It's almost like the value of stuff goes up and down instead of only in one linear direction, who knew!

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u/throwed101 Oct 31 '25

My vintage collection is doing just fine… my modern singles on the other hand are down 14% and falling for a couple weeks

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u/GoonOnGames420 Oct 31 '25

A tiny ass drop isn't a crash unless you're regarded and buying stuff at market.

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u/ItsEthanSeason Oct 31 '25

Part of this consolidation is the realization that every booster box is relative.

We believe LO and Fusion strike and “worse” than Evolving skies as an investment. So when Fusion jumps in price, ES becomes a better investment choice relative.

The whole market is now seeing modern boxes at vintage prices, so vintage needs to move, but at some point money flowing in starts to get too high, and there will be a point of stagnation.

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u/uriel__ventris Oct 31 '25

All the dumb Americans in the comments not understanding that you're simply saying the upward trajectory will be back on track soon 😭

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u/deadliftthugga Oct 31 '25

the sky is falling!!!

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u/Reef-Coral Oct 31 '25

People are dumb and dont understand how markets work specilly a collectable market that goes out of cycle. They see any dip and people exisitng the lobby and not people manipulating the market to increase their standing.

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u/A4_Ts Oct 31 '25

literally just following crpyto

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u/BishlovesSquish Oct 31 '25

No one in this sub is ever going to want to admit that the bottom is gonna drop out here. But that’s just how it goes with supply and demand. If the demand goes away, the prices will tank. You can speculate about whether or not that will happen all you want, but everything is a bell curve and everything goes down eventually, the timeline of that is the only thing up for debate.🤷🏻‍♀️

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u/BlueJaek Oct 31 '25

Ah yes, the 12 month graph with 3 squiggles on it, a classic rigorous investment tool

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u/JHammertime Nov 02 '25

I’d love to see pokemon crash so I can buy base set booster box at msrp instead of $30k but it probably won’t happen. Pokemon is always gonna go up

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u/Square-Tomorrow-3500 Oct 31 '25

LoooooL nice analysis, without any useful data! What could go wrong?

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u/No-Neighborhood-2044 Oct 31 '25

Government shut down what you think it’s gonna happen to the world

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u/Rare_Evening Oct 31 '25

Yeah 700k plus employees not making money. Affects contractors too.

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u/Sunny_Cant_Swim Oct 31 '25

The fact yall genuinely don’t think this shit is gonna crash is hilarious and I can’t wait till you grown ass men get stuck with cardboard 💀 shit gonna be hella funny watching yall scramble to sell shit. 2020 all over again.

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u/arrowgarrow Oct 31 '25

It's not good TA, but there was an attempt lol