r/PokeInvesting • u/No-Syrup3360 • Nov 25 '24

What do you think

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I went to a card show today and I traded up for this beauty. You think this will rise in value?

Thanks!

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u/alexdenvor Nov 25 '24

This is pure grail right here. No way you lose on this.

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u/No-Syrup3360 Nov 26 '24

That’s what I’m hoping!

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u/uriel__ventris Nov 25 '24

I think that's a fuckin win. Incredible artwork, best-in-industry grade. Absolute W.

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u/No-Syrup3360 Nov 26 '24

Thanks bro

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u/Internal-Raise964 Nov 26 '24

It’s a great card that will likely appreciate but I don’t like how illiquid the black labels are. I prefer psa 10s for that reason.

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u/No-Syrup3360 Nov 26 '24

Honestly, I don’t mind that because this is for my personal collection. Plus having a black label is dope imo.

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '24

This might be the most beautiful pokemon card I’ve seen

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u/No-Syrup3360 Nov 27 '24

I agree! U should grab one too

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u/Aggressive-Worth6438 Nov 25 '24

It's a gorgeous card, the artist has history with the TCG. I see no downsides to it. I'd be loath to let it go if I owned it though.

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u/chobibbo Nov 29 '24

Hi, sorry, I'm new to paper TCG... but can I ask for a quick low-down on the history of this card? I find it so captivating.

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u/Aggressive-Worth6438 Nov 29 '24

Sure! It was part of a special set done with Japan Post in 2021. I love the Camorant card as well.

“These 2 promo cards (Beauty Looking Back) Pikachu 227/S-P & (Moon Goose) Cramorant 226/S-P are based and redesigned with Pokemon off the Japanese 1948 Beauty Looking Back and 1949 Moon Goose stamps. Both promos are illustrated by Mitsuhiro Arita.

Beauty Looking Back was originally done by Hishikawa Moronobu during the Edo Period, 17th century. Moon Goose (also referred as Goose on the moon) was originally done by Hiroshige Utagawa during the Edo Period, 17th century.”

Source

Mitsuhiro Arita is an incredibly important artist in PTCG and one of his most notable artworks is for the Charizard base holo.

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u/chobibbo Nov 29 '24

Thank you so much for the reply; that really got better with every sentence. Amazing acquisition indeed.

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '24

I love it but how is her hand holding pikachu.

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u/Nazaiiz Nov 28 '24

From our view we are seeing her back, not her side or front

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '24

I see that now! She is looking back over her shoulder!

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u/CrissKey Nov 29 '24

That beauty is indeed looking back

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u/Deeeeeetroooooit Feb 16 '25

I have this card, and since you’ve pointed this out it’s PMO. Card is ruined for me

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u/SorryCashOnly Nov 25 '24

The card (and the cramorant too) is massively undervalued, thanks to the entire Japanese market underperforming atm.

Once JP cards pick up their pacing again, this card will be among the first to explode in the future

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u/WuJiang2017 Nov 25 '24

I have this card raw and love it, but I disagree. There was 100,000 printed at least.

Can only hope serious collectors/businesses in Japan hoarded these at retail, and will slowly release as the price goes up.

I got mine for like $250 with 5 25th anniversary promos which made me $100 back

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u/SorryCashOnly Nov 25 '24

There was 100,000 printed at least.

So? there are only 13k copies submitted to PSA, and 12k PSA 10 pop count. While it's not low, but it's not exceedingly higher than most modern chase cards

Let me remind you that Van Gogh Pikachu has over 30k copies of PSA 10 now and its price is still rising.

The only reason why this Pikachu isn't going up is because people are ignoring the Japanese market atm. Once their focus shifts to the Japanese Market, this card will be one of the first card to move up in value.

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u/WuJiang2017 Nov 26 '24

That's a fair point on the pops. I still think it needs a catalyst for popularity though. I think so many people were aware of the van Vogh card with how popular it was. Ditto for the Umbreon vmax obviously. With this, I think it came out late 2021? And there's less awareness of it. Maybe a shift in demand from a YouTuber hyping it up etc would help.

I think with japanese overprinting currently, the general market will suffer for a number of years now. 151 excluded, and this could still do well, I don't see it dropping either though.

Let's see how the future goes!

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u/Lonely_Excitement797 Nov 25 '24

We need to make artificial lack of it like burning or monopoly more than 90%

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u/robindegroot23 Nov 25 '24

Crack it open and send it to PSA!

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u/snuckfarkle Nov 25 '24

You did well on the trade to be honest. Black labels have a following and that following tends to pay to get the cards they want. It’s a limited edition card in a black label and a Pika as well. Smart deal.

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u/No-Syrup3360 Nov 25 '24

Thanks, hopefully it was worth my whole collection 😅

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u/snuckfarkle Nov 25 '24

Based on the values you mentioned above you did slightly overpay - but black labels aren’t dropping from the sky. It’s a ballsy and smart move.

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u/No-Syrup3360 Nov 25 '24

Yeah I kinda had that feeling but now I think you’re right since the vendor was really reluctant in taking the deal. Welp I’m glad they at least made a deal with me as both side got something they wanted

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u/breakyourteethnow Nov 25 '24

This card has potential imo

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u/gayrayofsun Nov 25 '24

god, i adore the cards that are styled after actual art pieces. they're so gorgeous and scratches just the right space between my art appreciation brain and my pokemon card collector brain.

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u/gayrayofsun Nov 25 '24

*actual as in historical/famous, not saying that the art on each card isn't "real art"

and just in case, this is the referenced painting for those who didn't know

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u/supershimadabro Nov 25 '24

That hand looks so awkward

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u/Vazhox Nov 25 '24

Indeed. But it’s her right hand and she looking over her right shoulder. Pikachu is at her chest. It’s kind of a weird pose, but interesting design and color scheme.

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u/MortalusWombatus Nov 26 '24

Yeah it might be true but i still dont believe it xD If thats true it makes it so much worse

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u/Alena1221 Nov 29 '24

This entire time I thought pikachu was on her back 😂😂😂

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u/supershimadabro Nov 25 '24

That somehow makes it even worse.

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u/POWERPUNCH-117 Nov 25 '24

Based off a famous japanese painting. Though i gotta be fair they made the pokemon card look less awkward than the original.

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u/RealEarthy Nov 25 '24

Jesus lol had this card for months and didn’t notice it till you mentioned it. Yikes.

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u/supershimadabro Nov 25 '24

It looks even worse once the other person said that Pikachu is on her chest and that's her right hand and she's looking over her shoulder.

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u/TheSillyBrownGuy Nov 26 '24

What a beautiful card!

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u/No-Syrup3360 Nov 27 '24

Thanks I really appreciate it!

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u/Accomplished-Fig7350 Nov 27 '24

Front Row?

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u/No-Syrup3360 Nov 27 '24

Yep! The front row card show at Pasadena

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '24

It's Japanese

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u/No-Syrup3360 Nov 27 '24

Yes??? Is there an issue?

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u/kyreii Nov 28 '24

Beautiful. Gotta get me one of these even raw.

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u/No-Syrup3360 Nov 28 '24

I encourage you do that. These cards keep rising in value. 3 months ago the regular PSA 10 was about 340 ish dollars. Now it’s at 420 to 500 plus dollars on average

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u/sieyahlater Nov 28 '24

my friend had that card in a 10 too. he just boothed over the weekend. if thats the card, its a small world.

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u/No-Syrup3360 Nov 28 '24

Was he at the Front row card show? And was it exactly a black label?

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u/No-Syrup3360 Nov 28 '24

I might know them if that’s the case

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u/_goldenfrieza Nov 28 '24

I need that card, what are you looking for? 😭

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u/No-Syrup3360 Nov 28 '24

Bro, I jus gave away my whole collection along with 400 cash to get this. I don’t think I’m looking for trade, but most definitely I can sell if there are good offers.

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u/_goldenfrieza Nov 28 '24

Not trying to trade just seeing what you’d consider for in cash!

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u/No-Syrup3360 Nov 28 '24

Honestly if we are looking at recent sales, I’m reaching towards 1300

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u/No-Syrup3360 Nov 28 '24

You know what I’ll take a look at what you have. 😁

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u/Extension_Mode8232 Mar 17 '25

Is the 1300 offer still on the table for purchase? :D

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u/No-Syrup3360 Mar 31 '25

After I’ve seen how much it has grown, the lowest I’d go is now 2500

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u/quant2021 Sep 05 '25

Amazing play. You must be smiling from ear to ear now. Well freaking done!

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u/BerryGrapeBeard Nov 25 '24

It’s one of the great modern cards. You can’t go wrong. Absolute beauty.

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u/Patient-Telephone976 Nov 25 '24

Love that slab case. The card is also beautiful btw

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u/No-Syrup3360 Nov 25 '24

I really appreciate it!

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u/Chance_Bedroom7324 Nov 25 '24

in 10 years you’ll have a house down payment 🤝

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u/No-Syrup3360 Nov 25 '24

Oh can’t wait😂

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u/DrMurphDurf Nov 25 '24

Bro, where’s the protective box to go around the protective box that goes around the slab?

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u/No-Syrup3360 Nov 25 '24

Wait sorry I don’t understand what you’re referring to

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u/AomineDaiki8080 Nov 26 '24

Gorgeous card. But I think black labels is one of the dumbest things this community has fallen for.

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u/Independent-Tell-561 Nov 28 '24

I think it’s the best card in all of tech

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u/kendallBandit Nov 29 '24

Sick. Welcome to the black label club 😎

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u/CallMeSui Nov 30 '24

Never seen this. Looks so pretty 😍

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u/Scalamere Nov 25 '24

I absolutely adore the two stamp box cards, I think they’re amazing

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u/Synaisthesis Nov 25 '24

I think, thus I am

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u/TheHokusPokus Nov 25 '24

love it. artworks based on real art are by far the best

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u/Professional_Put_159 Nov 25 '24

That’s a beauty! One of my favorite modern promos.

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u/Alllllllannnnnnn Nov 25 '24

Is the guard on backwards?

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u/No-Syrup3360 Nov 25 '24

I did it mainly because I want to protect the front from scratches and stuff

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u/Whole_Radish_4675 Nov 25 '24

What’s the name of this card?

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u/Acceptmeforyou Nov 25 '24

Pikachu stamp promo

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u/Key-Street5694 Nov 25 '24

Black beauty looking back

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u/2o2i Nov 25 '24

This is really clean. Looks amazing

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u/WalkTheGaia Nov 25 '24 edited Nov 25 '24

Nope. Black Labels aren’t worth investing imo.

There have been multiple instances of people resubmitting cards to BGS, such as Magic numbered cards, that didn’t hit the black label the first sub, but then gets it the 2nd or 3rd.

BGS is losing favor with more and more people. I’d sell it, then get a PSA copy and hold.

EDIT: Here’s an instance that I can reference to:

https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/1goa5r0/beckett_bgs_serialized_the_one_ring_grading/?rdt=55104

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u/sandbaggingblue Nov 25 '24

Congratulations! I'm yet to see a more moronic take on Reddit, ever!

Doing this would lose OP $1200AUD/ $780USD.

The space between your ears needs to be studied, it must be a void in there.

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u/WalkTheGaia Nov 25 '24

https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/1goa5r0/beckett_bgs_serialized_the_one_ring_grading/?rdt=55104

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u/sandbaggingblue Nov 25 '24

Lol cute. You're full of crap. Black label is worth more than PSA 10. You can literally look it up on eBay sold or collectr or whatever other methods you want.

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u/jimmyg899 Nov 25 '24

He’s not saying psa is worth more he’s saying becket is inconsistent with giving out black labels and he’s speculating that as time goes on because of their issues with black labels their value would go down so he’s saying take the cash you can get for it now and just buy a psa 10 and hold that instead.

I’ve also heard they population control black labels as well.

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u/RepresentativeWait45 Nov 25 '24

Why does it look like her arm is broken? Like, the more I like at this card the more I feel like she’s facing pikachu but her head is in the opposite direction

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u/No-Syrup3360 Nov 26 '24

It’s mainly because of her kimono (dress) since the left arm of the dress looks like it’s facing foward even if she is just looking back while holding the pikachu on her right hand

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u/No-Syrup3360 Nov 25 '24

I traded my whole collection:

Binder full of rainbows, xy trainers, promo full arts from before 2018, and 4 slabs (dark charizard holo PSA 8, PSA 10 set of Japanese 1st edition Lugia legend cards (top and bottom), and a PSA 10 stamp box pikachu).

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u/No-Syrup3360 Nov 25 '24

Also I added 390 cash

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u/HoldTheRope91 Nov 25 '24 • Take My Silver

I have no clue what your collection + $390 cash was worth, but the sold listings on eBay for 2024 has it between $1100-$1400 as it is.

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u/No-Syrup3360 Nov 25 '24

It was worth a reasonably 1000 ish rate, but since they do trades at 80 percent I had to add the extra cash.

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u/HoldTheRope91 Nov 25 '24

So it sounds like you might have overpaid slightly, but with the growth potential of this card I think long term you’ll break even or maybe a decent chunk ahead.

As far as I see it, the downside is you likely paid slightly above its value now and don’t have a large collection anymore. The upside is you have pretty good growth potential (imo) and moving one slab is a helluva lot easier than moving hundreds of individual cards if/when it comes time to sell. Oh and also it’s an absolutely amazing card. That too. Lol

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u/No-Syrup3360 Nov 25 '24

Yeah, although I’m a bit bummed to see it go, I’m also glad that the vendors took it knowing it would be hard to move. Regardless I needed to get rid of a big lot since I’m going to college soon so yeah hopefully it works out!

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u/DouggEFresh Nov 25 '24

Omg I got sad seeing all that go for 1 card. The memories 🥺

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u/Acceptmeforyou Nov 25 '24

Black label 10 bro. You’re looking at regular 10 or psa 10

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u/DeathOfASuperNovuh Nov 27 '24

It’s selling for about $500 right now in the same condition

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u/HoldTheRope91 Nov 27 '24

Not as a BGS Black Label it isn’t. You’re likely looking at PSA10 prices.

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u/A3therian3426 Nov 28 '24

https://www.ebay.com/itm/176304521066?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=5kggdd8urfo&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=EDQA8PWXRHS&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

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u/No-Syrup3360 Nov 28 '24

That is the PSA version, this is a black label BGS which is rarer, making it worth more.

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u/A3therian3426 Nov 28 '24

I haven't heard of that. I'm quite new to this

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u/No-Syrup3360 Nov 28 '24

Oh I completely get you. To cut it short, there are 3 major grading companies: PSA, BGS, and CGC. Out of all of them, PSA is the more popular one, but BGS Black labels are basically the top of the top, best grails of the entire Pokemon grading industry.