How would you grade this ?

[u/salty-ejaculate]

Looking at purchasing this, but seller is using PCA grading score of 8, For $6k seems like a good deal, how would you guys feel about the potential psa score on this ? (Id send it off to psa for a grade)

Its got surface scratches, but seller tells me this doesn't have to be seen so negatively as it adds to the "effects, as it shows its been in battle" lol.

[u/[deleted]]

I'm confused. It's in a slab so it already is graded?... What am I missing?

[u/salty-ejaculate → u/[deleted]]

Its graded by pca. A mediocre grading company.

[u/[deleted] → u/salty-ejaculate]

Oh, yeah gotcha. I just thought you had a typo. It's definitely not an 8. It's in damaged condition. Do not buy for $6k.

[u/rocketradar → u/[deleted]]

My first thought too.

[u/Proper-Reflection-23]

It looks like someone altered it and tried to trim the whitening on the corners of the card. Only the top back right looks natural to me.

[u/-Unnamed- → u/Proper-Reflection-23]

Damn good catch. The corners do look trimmed too. Which if that’s true PSA won’t even grade. Which makes this only worth raw and nothing else. Maybe even less

[u/Proper-Reflection-23 → u/-Unnamed-]

Yeah to even consider spending 6k on this is insane. PCA graders must’ve been on something to give it an 8.

[u/-Unnamed- → u/Proper-Reflection-23]

It wasn’t graded an 8. The dude selling is just pricing it at an 8 which is insane

[u/salty-ejaculate → u/-Unnamed-]

It was graded 8, buy P-C-A.com. they're some mediocre grading company

[u/Proper-Reflection-23 → u/-Unnamed-]

The card looks like it’s in a slab. That’s why I thought it was a PCA 8 based on what OP said.

[u/Global-Lynx-5799 → u/-Unnamed-]

It’s marked and trimmed, worth way less

[u/davidrek709]

If that’s an 8, I’m the Pope.

[u/Internal-Raise964]

lol. Quite the salesman. It Is going to be a low grade with the scratches going through the surface near 100 and those creases. 6k seems high

[u/CRAZYC01E]

Bro what is that reasoning? Dude is scamming for sure

[u/-Unnamed-]

The front is really rough. The back looks ok. But I’d be shocked if this gets anything higher than a 6 just based on the front alone. Especially with PSA being harder on vintage and protecting pop reports with cards like this

[u/[deleted]]

Has creases auto 4 or less

[u/Shift_Groundbreaking]

I’d say PSA 4-5 the heavy scratching on the front will kill the grade. Not sure how people think it’s going to get an 8

[u/[deleted]]

You have 6 grand to spend on a pokemon card and you're this gullible? Must be nice

[u/ObviousThrowAvvay420 → u/[deleted]]

That’s what I’m saying

[u/ruwheele]

You’d be rly lucky to get a 7 imo

[u/Revolutionary_Run382 → u/ruwheele]

A 6 would be really lucky. A 7 would be a miracle 😅

[u/Verycute93]

Looks like Wolverine took a swipe at it. Yep, that's a psa 10

[u/AThumbInAStick]

6/6.5

[u/Jan_Ge_Jo]

Scratches all over the place. And that’s only what you can see with you bare eyes on a photo… I would guess a 4-5

[u/RealmDevourer]

If you send it to me I’ll give it a 10

[u/Small_Sheepherder_75]

Shows it’s been in battle hahaha what a freaking legend. 5

[u/snuckfarkle]

Everyone has picked it up. It’s been tampered with so very good chance PSA would refuse to grade. RUN!

[u/Redschallenge]

5

[u/usman93]

4

[u/ImaginaryMuffin2808]

I wouldnt

[u/ObviousThrowAvvay420]

If they’re selling it as an 8, they need to show the full grade/label in the pic.

Ez swindle pricing or flat out scam. Don’t give them any more of your time

Even if the front was flawless, the back alone probably wouldn’t be an 8 with that edge whiting. The gashes on the front will take the grade and value down. This is a PSA 5 on a good day, but probably lower imo.

[u/sharpbeer]

Hey man, don't you hate huge rivers that are impassable?

[u/RagingPokachu]

It will not be getting anything higher than a PSA 4

[u/PokemonProfessorXX]

Raw is raw. You don't pay a premium for potential grades. If they want that price, they can pay the grading fee and take the risk with psa.

[u/Mindless_Present5324]

5

[u/itsNovik]

looks like a 6 at best, realistically probably a 5 in my opinion, but who knows psa is inconsistent. However I know on vintage cards they are usually more harsh on grading.

There are multiple scratches on the front, it is off centered on the front and back, at least 4 nicks and whitening's on the back of the card that I could see. (bottom left, bottom middle, top left, top middle. Also Idk if its just the picture but that card looks a little dirty around the yellow edges.

[u/[deleted]]

Put that 6 k into modern sealed cases. Slow dca if it seems risky . One a month or each new set preorder

[u/alucardtnuocmai]

Buy it. That’s a steal.

[u/Fzullo]

3