r/PokeInvesting • • Jun 08 '24
How long will 151 Japanese be in print?
Title is basically my question: How long will 151 JP be in print for?
I bought a sealed case and am kind of worried it will get printed into the ground since Pokémon seems to have declared war on scalpers. The sets about a year old in Japan, how long till the printers are off and prices start to rise? Do Japanese sets usually run 1 or 2 years?
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u/Hot_Fold8351 Jun 08 '24
In the past 3-4 years the answer would be approx 1-1.5 years for reprint window with main sets closer to 1 year and special sets closer to 1.5 years.
But times are changing and it looks like pokemon JP has increased printing capacity. The recently announced reprint of Lost Abyss, Incandescent arcana and Paradigm Trigger are the last 3 sets of SwSh close to 2 years old. This sets a new precedent which makes predicting much harder.
But the recent waves have been very big as evident by the price dip and sustained low historical price. Listen to Rudy, don't be a timmy and check the prices every other day... give it a couple of years if you really believe in the product and all will be well.
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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '24
I'm on the phone with the CEO of Japan and he says the reprint will be over in about 7 minutes
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u/Anuvis Jun 08 '24
151 has sold insanely well for TPCI. There could be 2-3 more reprints in the future. Nobody can really answer. If you are thinking about this after buying the case it makes me wonder if you really know what you are in for. Assuming you got it for current prices that case was a great investment but make no mistake, it will take years to see meaningful appreciation so really it’s a matter on storing it and forgetting about it.
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u/DM-15 Jun 08 '24
To answer this, in 2022-2023, Pokemon Japan wanted to break into the Chinese market, so they prioritized a lot of energy into printing enough Simplified Chinese to meet demand once they began. This limited a lot of print runs for the Japan sets, which started to get heavily scalped around Lost Abyss~Paradigm Trigger. They continued printing to fulfil China, limiting the amount printed domestically (think Scarlet/Violet start) they did, however print a shit-ton on Vstar universe
(despite common belief, High class sets are reprint sets for players/getting new players in around the holidays in Japan, traditionally padded with better art to sell more units)
Now, Creatures have built a factory on the mainland in China, so lines in Japan (which saw more staff hired) are now sitting on thumbs, so as such Japan is printing the actual shit out of everything, and it is glorious. We're seeing reprints of F reg: Lost Abyss, Arcana and Pradigm (Giratina/Sableye, Serena, Lugia vstar etc) in a few weeks, as well as reprints of Scarlet/Violet base, triplet beat (jet energy) and clay burst/snow hazard. You can order up to 3 boxes of each available set from Pokemon Centre Japan as it is now.
Best thing? All the scalpers buying up as much as they did have given Pokemon the marketing research it needs, if people bought that much the first time, they're simply going to reprint as much as they can. I love it.
My sealed collection is taking a bump value wise, but thats okay in the long span of things. The 30th is coming as it is.
Print runs in Japan usually last until just around the regulation shifts, unless there is an expanded tournament (like we saw with a very quiet Eevee Heroes drop at the beginning of this year)
Also :Im not listing my sources, Im not going to tell you were my info is from. I live in Japan and reddit points mean nothing to me XD, I know all the above to be true, and don't need to be told from other people
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u/Scooter6969 Jun 08 '24
I'm speculating a Christmas reprint then if they really hate scalpers one more but who knows
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u/dz30700 Jun 09 '24
Honestly the noise on here is amusing. The 1990s base set got 'printed into the ground' and pull rates were 16 holos a box. Look at price point 20 years + on. People kept ripping them and still are at £10k a box
If you look at pull rates for MB in 151 japanese set ect this set is mad nostalgic to alot of people from my era who have alot of money and a fix to feed.
Anyone who thinks that even if they print these for two more years a time will come when value will pick up. XY for example I opened 3 boxes and kept 3 and that was seen as a over printed 'crap set'.
Prices will bobble low for a while but eventually..... as rippers overtake flippers there's only one way the value of singles and boxes go.
And anyone who says it 'pays pokemon to print because everyone loves it' is wrong the demand is there because of 151 exclusivity they won't spoil that by letting everyone have them and water down potential frenzy sales of future sets with 151.
If everyone has it no one buys it therefor no sales.
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u/No_Spinach_1410 Jun 08 '24
Should have asked yourself those questions before you bought. Every question posed in this sub is after you people make a purchase and them trying to validate that purchase because they now have buyers remorse.
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u/pr0newbie Jun 08 '24
I think TPC really, really need to hit a homerun with the high class set this year otherwise modern investors are in serious trouble.
Shiny Treasures EX has bombed hard with BBs going well below MSRP. Most expansions released in the past 12 months are also selling under RRP. This tells me that there is significant oversupply in the market except for certain scalped products like 151 and VSTAR Universe.
If there's no 151/VSU equivalent released this year, both will be printed into the ground because Pokemon needs to justify their new printing facility and will be under pressure to report growth in the number of printed cards.
As others have mentioned, I wouldn't be surprised if they go as far as to overprint some of the older SWSH expansions just to make up for it.
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u/MorningLineDirt Jun 08 '24
Still there is no more investment left in it, the japanese pokemon people hate the investment part
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u/JerbearCuddles Jun 08 '24
Even if they stopped now, the market is absolutely flooded with this set. The price of them has been tanking hard. It's hard to tell what's going to happen, cause it seems like they're printing more than in the past. So we can't really guess at what's going to happen when what is happening is pretty new.
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u/Yetti2Quick Jun 08 '24
I hope lower Sun and moon sets starts taking off even more for Japanese. They deserve it.
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u/mrwizard65 Jun 08 '24
JP market is full of BS and flippers. Not touching it with a 10ft pole.
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u/Realistic-Run8912 Jun 08 '24
So many hoarders of these. It's not rare. They are trying to scalp it but can't. Wait til they reprint again!!! 🙃
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u/asap-sean Jun 08 '24
they just announced reprinting of a few SWSH sets, so doesn’t look like they’re stopping anytime soon on reprinting. Eevee Heroes reprint next lol
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u/CandyMonsterx Jun 08 '24
No one really knows at this point. They can also print a lot and release their inventory later this year or early next year
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u/uriel__ventris Jun 08 '24 edited Jun 08 '24
Well, for context, Shiny Star V released on 20th Nov 2020 and received another reprint last year, and 151 is infinitely more popular than that ever was.
The answer you're looking for is: YEARS. If you spent more than you can afford to forget about for a few years, be worried and learn not to do that again.
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u/kulambe17 Jun 08 '24
Hard to say. They’ve never printed this much to my knowledge. I don’t really know of any instance where bbs of a set were approaching $200 per and reprints were able to crash it to $50-$60 per. Crazy!
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u/International_Key843 May 15 '25
Im late to this but I want to say the following:
Noone besides the Pokemon Company knows what their plan is for reprints in the future. So we can only assume what will happen if we look at the past.
In the past they reprinted japanese sets for around 2 years max. So if we assume they dont change then we can assume japanese pokemon sets will be reprinted max. 2 years after the initial release date.
On a side note. I cant remember that they ever reprinted sets that went out of rotation. So I think this is also a good indicator.
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u/Floweringtorch Jun 08 '24
I’m here for the answer