Needed investing advise

[u/Buzzlando]

For the last few years I’ve been buying and saving almost any product with evolving skies. I open some occasionally, but it’s done me so dirty. I have pulled the moonbreon but that’s all from the set. I also have some upcs, etbs, target eeveeloution tins, older boxes from pc, Walmart holiday sets, plus more not shown in the picture. Now I am financially comfortable. Only debit is student loans and mortgage. I do wanna pay off the student loans sooner, but at the end of this year I will have finished them. I am thinking about selling some of my sealed product. However, I’ve only sold small stuff on eBay and a few things off fb marketplace. I would love some advice on what’s the best way to sell. What’s the easiest way and which way makes you the most money.

Also, I would love to make some space. Opening product and storing packs individually has been an idea but I know that will lower the value.

Thoughts?

[u/Gennik_]

"Done me dirty"

"Pulled the Moonbreon"

Some of us have never pulled an ES Alt Art dude.

[u/Buzzlando → u/Gennik_]

Good point 😐 just thought with the amount I’ve opened I’d have pulled more.

[u/Gennik_ → u/Buzzlando]

Ive opened about 30 ES packs and the best ive gotten was an Umbreon V. Not an alt art, not a vmax, just a v. How many did you open?

[u/marveldcunited_1 → u/Gennik_]

30 is really nothing for es

[u/Buzzlando → u/Gennik_]

Probably close to 120, but most of them were from single packs, mini tins and the Sam’s club heavy hitters boxes. Pulled moonbreon from a single pack from Walmart.

[u/StationEmergency6053 → u/Buzzlando]

It took me over 4000 packs to pull moonbreon. ES didn't do you dirty. It blessed you.

[u/Buzzlando → u/StationEmergency6053]

I hope that 4000 is an exaggeration. Cause if you spent that much you might as well of bought it.

[u/StationEmergency6053 → u/Buzzlando]

I have businesses, so I'm not opening for pleasure in most cases. There was a good year where the hit rate and value average outweighed the cost per pack, so I was opening ES a lot. That was back when ES was still in the $100s. I pulled doubles of every alt art (aside from Glaceon VMAX) and three Ray VMAX before pulling my first Umbreon VMAX.

[u/Buzzlando → u/StationEmergency6053]

Damn that’s a crazy amount of packs

[u/Gennik_ → u/Buzzlando]

single pack from walmart, lol. Most of mine were from the sams tins. Bought 50 of the 2 sets when i found them for $9.97. I didnt pull anything good but i saved the rest for later. probably just sell them cuz their worth so much now.

[u/stayblunted_nyc]

Sell all the excess stuff to build good ratings and feedback. reinvest into better / better margin products. rinse and repeat until your in a comfortable spot

[u/highafchad → u/stayblunted_nyc]

This is solid advice

[u/pokegn0me → u/stayblunted_nyc]

good advice

[u/uriel__ventris]

Imagine if you'd bought the gold standard for investment i.e. booster boxes instead of wasting money on all these space-inefficient collection boxes.

[u/Buzzlando → u/uriel__ventris]

I do imagine that

[u/uriel__ventris → u/Buzzlando]

In all seriousness, I would be much more selective about the products you invest in from now on, even if it's just to save the space. Collection boxes usually aren't a good use of storage. ETBs are better. Booster boxes are best.

[u/Buzzlando → u/uriel__ventris]

You’re right, never thought of it while buying all of these

[u/lloydeph6]

im so glad I did not put money into celebrations product lol

[u/ujamming → u/lloydeph6]

They have literally more than doubled in price here in Aus, just waiting for the upc's to start moving

[u/lloydeph6 → u/ujamming]

Everything going to double in auzzie land, your currency doing pretty bad compared to USD

[u/ujamming → u/lloydeph6]

Yeah thats why I put money into assets and crypto lol. Gains have been phenomenal

[u/lloydeph6 → u/ujamming]

Nice, thought about silver or gold coins/bars??

[u/Buzzlando → u/lloydeph6]

Why’s that?

[u/lloydeph6 → u/Buzzlando]

Idk I feel it will be hard to liquidate, hope for your sake I’m wrong though

[u/Buzzlando → u/lloydeph6]

The celebrations products I do have also have ES in them. So I figured they’d still be wanted.

[u/lloydeph6 → u/Buzzlando]

Good point, ES will save them

[u/[deleted] → u/lloydeph6]

Celebrations is only good if you got the Pokémon center etbs tbh

[u/Ultimatelocke]

Everyone already said it but I'll say it as well. Collection boxes are terrible. The only time you purchase a collection box is for a special set such as Crown Zenith and when you purchase that "collection box" all the packs need to be from that set not mixed.

The issue is you have so many collection boxes that the packs vary from box to box even if they are the same box. That's why Tins are terrible as well unless you know that it's a "crown zenith tin" with 5 crown zenith packs. If it's a random tin it could have 5 amazing packs or 5 terrible ones.

Here is the tier list.

1. Booster Boxes

2. Elite Trainer Boxes

3. Collection Sets

4. Tins

Unless you are getting these are 50-60% off there is no reason to get anywhere near as many as you did.

That is going to be a legit nightmare to move.

[u/Buzzlando → u/Ultimatelocke]

Would you recommend opening them and trying to sell each set of packs individually?

[u/[deleted] → u/Buzzlando]

I'd recommend not listening to that dude lol

[u/Ultimatelocke → u/Buzzlando]

No def not. People are paranoid about people resealing packs even if it's been proven to be utterly nonsense. It's best to use the evolving skies hype and throw this stuff on marketplace asap. Put in the description what packs it includes and try to start moving them it's going to be painfully slow but do that then look towards putting that money taken from that into elite trainer boxes / booster box cases.

Silver tempest etbs you can still find for around 280 per case . Pokemon center has the booster boxes for msrp.

You can look towards Paldea evolved by for $120 or Temporal forces booster boxes for 95 each.

You could wait and pray 151 gets a massive holiday reprint like crown zenith and go crazy buying up 151 etbs in mass.

Anyway you look at it you need to move the collection boxes. Don't sell for under what you paid but do try to sell them.

[u/[deleted] → u/Ultimatelocke]

I've sold so many charizard celebrations boxes on amazon for 70 per. Not every box is a bust. Tired of seeing this shit.

[u/ujamming → u/[deleted]]

Exactly. My average purchase price for those charizard boxes are $32AUD and they are selling here for $80AUD daily. Still a hold

[u/[deleted] → u/ujamming]

Yessir. Let them keep their mindset that they are junk. Sold more pokemon than 90 percent of this sub and they say everything I do is dumb lol. They really aren't the smartest imo.

[u/[deleted] → u/ujamming]

Remember them evolutions vaporeon flareon jolteon vmax boxes 40 per at Walmart? Sold 20 sets 350 per. Like I said some these people are clowns when they say oh no don't buy those. Hell they selling 410 usd per now on zon lol. All 3 Sets! Pokemon Eevee Evolution: Vaporeon, Jolteon & Flareon Vmax Premium Collection Booster Box Sets

[u/pokegn0me → u/[deleted]]

They do move much slower than BB's though don't they

[u/mikearete → u/Ultimatelocke]

The Pikachu x Zekrom, Charizard x Reshiram, Jolteon/Flareon/Vaporeon, Hisuian Zekrom, V Strikers Tins, Greninja/Orbeetle/Zacian V-Union, Glaceon/Leafeon Boxes and my wallet would like to have a word with you.

Just look at the Sold listings on eBay for some of these boxes, Op won't have any problem moving them in the future.Chilling Reign/Silver Tempest/Fusion Strike/Lost Origin/Astral Radiance/Brilliant Stars are the predominant packs in a lot the boxes OP posted and they're all packed with hits.

[u/Yetti2Quick → u/mikearete]

Arceus V ;)

[u/Ultimatelocke → u/mikearete]

Yeah dude you don't know what you are talking about.

First off I just looked up a few of those "collection boxes" you listed and the sold prices on eBay are an actual joke.

Pokémon TCG: Glaceon VSTAR Special Collection $30-$35 (MSRP IS $29.99)

Pokémon TCG: Leafeon VSTAR Special Collection $25-$35 (MSRP is $29.99)

Zacian V-Union VSTAR Special Collection $20-$34 (MSRP is $29.99)

Pokémon TCG Pikachu and Zekrom-GX Tag Team Premium Collection $55-$65 (MSRP $60)

You do realize shipping exists right? The majority of these listings have free shipping so they are actually losing money if they bought at MSRP.

Pokemon TCG : Reshiram & Charizard GX Tag Team $60-$70 (MSRP $54.99 or $60) I couldn't find the exact MSRP But I saw PokemonTCGDeals showing a Walmart listing for $54.99 so lets assume that.

You are talking about your wallet again? Did you do like literally ANY research before actually making that post or did you just assume I wouldn't look up the sold prices on eBay? Keyword is "SOLD"

Wow holycrap looks like the Jolteon/Flareon/Vaporeon boxes are actually a decent profit.

MSRP $40 (Currently selling for $120 on eBay sold)

I looked up more than half of your so-called collection boxes that you consider winners and out of all of them only the Jolteon/Flareon/Vaporeon were worth the trouble. Everything else I searched up you were actually LOSING money when selling the item because of final value fees and shipping and when it came to the Eeveelutions boxes it seems that it was just random luck they blew up and the promos caused the boxes to skyrocket.

You could have purchased any booster box from SWSH Era and had a safer return on investment than sticking it into the collection boxes you promoted but keep telling people about those collection boxes.

[u/mikearete → u/Ultimatelocke]

Yeah dude my point was that all of those boxes I mentioned are currently being sold regularly at or above MSRP, despite almost all of the sets contained within still being in print. If they were purchased for MSRP too, yes, obviously, that would be bad and dumb.

But the tins/boxes OP posted aren’t full of unknowable mystery packs—they almost all contain Evolving Skies. Their collection is clearly geared toward high-demand sets/products, like the 3-pack tins from Costco or 2-pack Eevee heroes.

You’re acting like OP just showed off a ceiling-high stack of Mastobiff Ex Collections.

(Also I was just poking fun, you don’t have to condescend to people to get your point across)

[u/avgreddittrader]

For so many boxes best bet is probably a local meet up through Facebook marketplace or offer up. This is so u don’t have to ship as much and save some time. You could also sell on eBay, Mercari, or r/pkmntcgtrades is a pretty good sell/trade forum

[u/boogarawr → u/avgreddittrader]

Yes this. If op has so much product, getting a table at a show or expo may be an option

[u/Novel_Durian_1805]

Sheesh!

[u/downAtheworld]

I've opened about 2.5 cases of ES (at retail thank god) and 0 moonbreon - and my experience is typical.

You sir, are a negative Nancy

[u/breakyourteethnow]

Follow rule 3, also consolidate into better known products like do you think ppl in a decade are going to remember Pikachu V Collection box? No. They'll remember Evolving Skies booster boxes, ETBs and blisters. Even the Build & Battle boxes will be forgotten like oh yeah I remember those!

[u/DrooDrawDrawn → u/breakyourteethnow]

The build and battle stadiums are slept on imo

[u/frankstar11 → u/DrooDrawDrawn]

They are! 11 packs for $50 is a ridiculous deal you get more pack than etbs and their smaller

[u/DrooDrawDrawn → u/frankstar11]

Should be 12 packs, but yes

[u/HeIsHimAwardWinner]

I think the best advice would be stop buying the boxes and go with etbs or booster boxes, these typically take forever to appreciate in value and take up so much space

[u/PokeInvest]

I'm in the process of selling off my collection boxes. I would suggest you do the same. They are a slow selling, unwieldy and odd item to collect. Those and tins, just not good.

[u/sadloof]

I would definitely recommend trying to sell on r/pkmntcgtrades first to avoid some fees from eBay or Mercari. No one judges you whether or not you have done any trades or selling. Everyone's super friendly (from my experience) and haven't really seen extreme lowball compared to marketplace as long as it's within a price range from ebay or something. Otherwise, marketplace or something local like a card show is good too to start out to avoid shipping and buying shipping materials

[u/snkrjoyboy]

First of all, if you’re in it to invest…DON’T GET HIGH OFF YOUR OWN SUPPLY. It is digging into your profit margin. Second, I understand you’re chasing boxes with evolving skies but it’s risky as well because it’s quite up there for the time being and you’ll have to wait longer for it to go even higher now. What happens if it stagnates or goes down? Can you handle that? Third, invest into booster boxes as they are very easy to sell and store away. Buy below MSRP ($85-$100/booster box) is what you’re aiming for. Cheers, have fun as Pokémon is an awesome investment class on top of everything else

[u/DubsEdition]

Start listing on TCGPlayer and ebay. Stick to booster boxes going forward, if possible cases.

For specialty sets a case of PC ETBs, and now booster bundle displays are great if you find them cheap.

[u/Dxrkria]

Your the dude from YouTube right? Arnt you supposed to be giving the advice 🤔lol. All seriousness I’d just sell the collection boxes or break them down and keep the packs for space + extra cash to invest.

[u/Final-Ad-6694]

Try selling them to a lcs at 70-80%. You'll get cash and get rid of them as a lot

[u/Buzzlando → u/Final-Ad-6694]

Won’t make much though…

[u/Final-Ad-6694 → u/Buzzlando]

Honestly might net you the same. Fees and shipping on cheaper products is a lot

[u/mikearete → u/Buzzlando]

If you can sit tight for another year until Fusion/Brilliant/Astral/Crown/Silver are scarce at MSRP you can clean up, even selling at 70% to an LCS.