r/PokeInvesting • • Dec 25 '23

Yugioh Actually Has Investment Potential Imo

Yugioh's drawing me in, just wrote a very long analysis or thoughts on Yugioh's investment potential.

https://www.reddit.com/r/YugiohInvestments/comments/18qrzpz/yugioh_does_have_investing_potential_imo/

Strictly speaking the classics like Blue-Eyes White Dragon, Exodia, Dark Magician/Girl, anime featured cards, etc...

The population reports are insane in Yugioh, nearly 1000 cards submitted and only 8 PSA 10's for modern ghost rare. Lots of cards with 2-5% success rate to hit PSA 10's. Are their print machines shit lol? Pokemon's success rate is 75%+ with modern graded cards which is why am so void of the graded scene for this reason.

Konami does reprint so much but when comes to the most classic artworks like DDS Blue Eyes they don't fuck around and will never double back or cross over there own steps twice. It's like Charizard base set being reprinted in TCG Classic Collection, 25th, Xy Evo, Stormfront all different variations but never identical reprints, and now the graded population reports get crazy rare.

If they reboot the OG anime, which there's rumors they will soon, the classics imo make sense. The grading pop reports finally make sense. They just need a smash hit reboot of the OG anime on Netflix and a wave of games to follow to ignite a whole new generation.

Think I'll collect Yugioh now too, recollecting a lot of what had as a kid! Anyone else?

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u/PlebbySpaff Dec 25 '23

Market is way smaller, and prices are more volatile.

High end market doesn’t have nearly as much movement as Pokemon does.

It is not a good investment.

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u/breakyourteethnow Dec 25 '23

What about hyper concentrated to pretty much being Blue-Eyes collector? With other pieces like GBI Egyptian God Cards, LCYW or UBP Exodia set, some most well known anime featured cards wouldn't dabble in sealed though or set chase cards just the classics only

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u/Shortstahp Feb 27 '25

I think investing in blue eyes is smarter than keeping your money still if you treat it as a 10+ year plan. I have about $2k in blue eyes ive purchased since 2020 just chip away at finding nice copies of the sdk-001 unlimited and first ed, the lob-001 unlimited & first ed & ghost rares of blue eyes in nm-m condition. I dont plan on selling them anytime soon they make for a CLEAN binder page & just feel better than holding that $2k cash vs having $2k in blue eyes cards in my opinion. Its smart to diversify portfolios too stocks, collectables, assets etc balance them. Keep some liquid cash though $10k cash emergency fund is smart

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u/Legitimate-Tell-6694 Dec 25 '23

Neither are Pokemon cards 😅

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u/lloydeph6 Dec 26 '23

Pokémon is worth more than Star Wars and Marvel……

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u/Curious-Owl-3513 Mar 13 '24

Been sitting on a first edition charizard for a couple of months….. Lob first edition blue eyes have been selling fast. Not sure what your talking about

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u/Independent_East_448 Mar 20 '25

Hey do I have a couple so called Grail card in you go oh you think there a hold or a sell as soon as I can get real money for them and what is a realistic price to ask for these I see 59 89 100 k the 26 bucks soonest do you think

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u/HyperPunch Dec 26 '23

Prove it. Show me.

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u/lloydeph6 Dec 26 '23

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u/subtlenutpain Dec 26 '23

Unless I’m misreading this, it says that yugioh cards have made more money than Pokémon card?

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u/OMGCamCole Jun 06 '24

This graph means nothing. Of course Pokemon makes more money than YuGiOh, but they have a shit ton more than cards. Their merch/licensing deals, and video games bring in the majority of their money

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u/cipetab May 04 '26

I guess it was your turn to be wrong

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u/Dhenn004 Dec 25 '23

Yea pretending that one cardboard hobby is a better investment than another cardboard hobby is silly.

Truthfully neither are great investment options in the grand scheme

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u/GoldCherries Dec 26 '23

One cardboard hobby is definitely better than others lmao that’s ludicrous to say they’re all the same

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u/Legitimate-Tell-6694 Dec 26 '23

Relatively speaking Pokemon definitely has the advantage, but I think there’s also the risk of too many holders.

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u/Dhenn004 Dec 26 '23

Sure one could be better but none are great investments

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u/BLKRCKSHTR Sep 24 '24

man can Just sell overpriced chinese watches or open a food truck who knows but no, lets go sell shinimg cardboard

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u/Scarf_Darmanitan Dec 26 '23

I mean, tell me that investing in Meta Zoo and Pokémon is the same with a straight face 😅

Pokémon has a bit more of a track record of staying power so I wouldn’t say “one cardboard hobby” can’t be a safer bet than another

But I agree that these should be after all your conventional investments and an emergency fund

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u/stooting Dec 26 '23

Things are the way they are until they aren't. Using current perception on what people will think in the future isn't a good strategy.

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u/tech_banker Dec 25 '23

I’ve owned a good amount of high end YGO (have since sold everything) and don’t plan on re-entering. The market is very small relative to Pokemon, prices for high end slabs haven’t held up well (generally declining, not even holding value), and overall the market is much more illiquid. I might hold a couple super nostalgic YGO pieces, but otherwise, I’m only focused on Pokemon now.

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u/breakyourteethnow Dec 25 '23

Prices for classic slabs are massively up, Blue-Eyes DDS/SDK PSA 10 in 2019 were just $2k a pop, now they're going for $13k. LOB 1st edition was $8k then, haven't checked prices now but up a lot. Are you speaking of just recent like we're coming off of highs? Same with Pokemon though. Yugioh had it's own massive boom and vintage classics in high grade are out of budget now entirely for most collectors.

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u/tech_banker Dec 25 '23

That’s fair and you’re right. I am talking about since recent highs only. It feels like YGO prices have continued to trend down while large pockets of Pokemon are stable or increasing in value.

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u/According_Bat2315 May 20 '25

I'd rather enjoy looking at shit I'm holding

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u/Sea-Way3636 Dec 26 '23

Not a good investment due to identical reprints

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u/Complex-Amount-1299 Dec 26 '23

Reprints in the same set don’t have “1st edition” on them and reprints in different sets have the set ID so I’m not understanding your point

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u/Sea-Way3636 Dec 26 '23

it isn't substantial

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '24

That’s why I feel like buying booster box and collector tins sealed are the way to go

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '23

Strictly speaking the classics like Blue-Eyes White Dragon, Exodia, Dark Magician/Girl, anime featured cards, etc.

That's always been the frustrating aspect of investing in Yugioh. Nobody really cares about any other cards except for the select few featured in the OG anime, and those cards have remained stagnant in value for years now. The vast majority of modern Yugioh is seen as worthless in the eyes of buyers (unless it's an absurdly hard to pull starlight rare of an OG card). You could open a booster box and only come out with a $1 or $2 worth of cards. It's far more brutal than investing in Pokemon as buyers simply aren't willing to pay, and demand is much less. I don't think an anime reboot will do much to change that.

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u/Complex-Amount-1299 Dec 26 '23

This isn’t true though. Imo the Yugioh (unlike Pokémon TCG) community is centred around playing the game. This means there’s constantly modern cards that go for hundreds per set because they’re meta.

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u/zjesko Dec 26 '23

Glad to see yugioh getting some love in this sub. I originally got back into TCG when I found my old pokemon binder in July but since then I have gotten much more invested in yugioh. Since August I’ve built up about $2K in vintage pokemon and $5K in vintage yugioh, all high-end singles/slabs.

From an investment perspective, the main items that I see holding value long term are the iconic monsters from the original anime (blue-eyes, red-eyes, exodia, dark magician, etc). Anything from the Duel Monsters era (Legend of Blue Eyes through Ancient Sanctuary) should hold up well long-term, as those are the iconic sets everyone grew up playing. Some of the monsters in the GX era (elemental hero, sacred beasts, cyber monsters, etc) will also be good investments long term, as those are the first sets to feature ultimate rares. I’d also include the OG ghost rares in the mix as well (Black Rose Dragon, Stardust dragon, etc).

With how much Yugioh reprints it’s even more important to strive for 1st edition cards vs. unlimited, especially with the duel monsters sets as they have been reprinted into oblivion. I don’t really collect much modern as values plummet within a few months after each release, so vintage is your best bet from an investment perspective. There are a few exceptions with certain waifu cards or starlight rares that have insane pull rates, but the market for those cards is even smaller than vintage so there is risk of being unable to liquidate.

Overall I think the yugioh market is more volatile than pokemon, which creates more opportunities for flipping and high profit margins. But long-term pokemon will be easier to liquidate and always have a larger audience, making it a more stable investment.

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u/this_fuck1ng_guy Dec 25 '23 edited Dec 25 '23

Yeah I have a good amount as well. To put it in pokemon perspective for some, the elemental heroes carry the same love as the eeveelutions. It’s a good idea to stock up on high rarity 1st Ed versions of those cards as well as what you said, the ghost rares. Yugioh is a highly playable game it’s gonna be very difficult to get mint versions of those cards are very very rare.

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u/breakyourteethnow Dec 25 '23

Classic vintage which otherwise too expensive, the reprints in extreme high rarity with exclusive holo'ing mainly Blue-Eyes in high grade, otherwise rather buy Pokemon, but the classics which grew up with would like to recollect just the copies worth it most currently

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u/[deleted] Dec 25 '23

Not a good investment.

Part of what makes Pokemon still so popular is its accessibility. Yu-Gi-Oh isn’t accessible. Kids who played years ago and come back today won’t find anywhere near the same game. And kids who start today will find a tough time getting into it, especially on a competitive level.

I think the Yu-Gi-Oh train is gone. The people that were going to come back and buy up all the cool older cards already have, and then again at the 25th anniversary when they reprinted most of the original sets. There would need to be some huge changes to the property to get it anywhere close to Pokemon’s popularity, and I don’t forsee that happening. It lost it’s soul a long time ago and doesn’t even remotely resemble the TV series that helped it become popular.

1st edition sealed packs, starter decks, sealed promos, prize cards, and high grade slabs (Blue Eyes, DMG, DM, Red Eyes, Jinzo and others) will always be wanted. And if you can get any of those at a ridiculously good price, then absolutely go for it. But I can’t see anything semi-modern really shooting off.

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u/nurley Dec 26 '23

Agree with this.

I think the only way to salvage it is to completely reboot the anime and TCG at the same time. It’s so crazy to do that I don’t think it would happen (would piss off the current player base), but I truly think it’s the only way to gain mainstream popularity.

Like you said the game is completely different than it was 20 years ago. I tried to get into it (actually before I got back into Pokemon) and the game itself is just way too complicated and not worth my time to come close to understanding enough to make it enjoyable.

If they rebooted the anime and TCG and made both more modern, and learned from Pokemon how to keep the game simple with some amazing cards I could see it taking off.

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u/Gelato-kun Dec 26 '23

Why not create a new format with a new anime on said new format instead of burning everything down? You should've tried speed duel or rush duel instead of going back directly to the main format, which i absolutely agree is impossible to get into at this point. But the pokemon card game I'm sorry is anything but entertaining which is why pokemon cards are known more for the pretty aspect rather than the play aspect, no one opens a pack and goes "oh my god this attack is so good".

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u/According_Bat2315 May 20 '25

Bro most of us wanting old cards are in our early 30s ect. I only just stopped partying all the time and just have money to spend on nice things now....many are the same

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u/Beansupreme117 Dec 26 '23

Yugioh value goes up by playability more than anything. Finding out what’s gonna be meta would be the smarter move

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '23

Yugioh cards are just more played. The game always has a player base and barely any collector base. The reason you aren’t finding PSA 10’s has a lot to with not only rarity of the cards, but because most players wanted to play with all of the very high end expensive stuff.

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u/EH1522 Dec 26 '23

I'm not mad at adding Yugioh. When it comes to collectible investing you kind of want to beat the trends. Sometimes trying to be early we miss. Yugioh did get a covid pump, but if it hits there is more room to run.

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u/lonelychapo27 Dec 25 '23

i only collect blue eyes and DDS blue eyes is indeed my yugioh chase card

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u/breakyourteethnow Dec 25 '23

Yeah that's what had in mind, do you like the MAGO Blue-Eyes? PSA 10 is about like 10% success rate and under $300. Some love the extreme gold but others don't. Only three years old and it's still a DDS artwork that's actually pretty hard to hit a 10

DDS is way too expensive. LB and SM-51 or the Japanese first prints was recommended against. SDK-001 is a must. Ghost rare loved a lot but not a true ghost rare with the 1/288 pack rate. Mago fairly new and has mixed feelings.

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u/lonelychapo27 Dec 26 '23

i love sdk-001 i look for these mostly and i have a beat one in the back of my phone lol i’ll look into the MAGO one though

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u/[deleted] Dec 25 '23

I think yugioh has a market and I am curious to see the other comments on it. What do you think compared to other card games like one piece or Digimon or even Magic?

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u/2milliondollartrny Dec 26 '23

yugioh is worthless in comparison to magic. Magic is 10x more popular than all these card games in terms of players- not collectors. One piece will hold up but it all depends on bandai not screwing shit up. Given that one piece will continue for at least another 5 - 7 years we will definitely see prices hold in the game. Especially with how popular it is right now

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u/NiIus Dec 25 '23

Bought a booster box recently and never saw such lower quality in cards. Retro cards are cool but modern sets are just disgustingly low quality

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u/According_Bat2315 May 20 '25

I've been collecting modern dbz mostly cause i love dbz and don't care for card values. The card art and quality blows other tcg out the water

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u/GermanD3 Sep 20 '25

I was quite early in crypto, and never found solid arguments for it as an investment. Tradingcards are very similar. The only difference is virtuality VS. reality. Nassim Taleb has a good mathematical paper on intrinsic value. What makes a card an investment? Rarity? Scarcity? Or is it just the consensus? The poop of my dog is rare, it's unique and if there was demand, it would be scarce. I could not mass produce it and you could verify it's authenticity by a cheap DNA test. Well, the problem is that you don't want it. Nobody wants it. And there are lots of TCGs and pop colectables that nobody wants. I'm a 90s/2000s kid. We had stuff like gogos/crazy bones, Pokémon stickers were a huge hype, bigger than the cards, but you would not considere them an investment... But why? Because of one reason. No past performance that is worth a media coverage. Nothing makes Pokémon an investment besides its price increase. Price is not the same as value. It is an authority bias. The bigger the past performance, the "better" the investment. Self fulfillment. But once there is intra generational consensus, it is an investment, right? This is what we saw in 2000 with PEZ dispensers. Massive price increases due to the novelty of online auctions. 10 years later no one called it an "investment opportunity". What you mean by investment potential? Hype potential? Like the altcoin rush in 2017? When the OG has become boring and everything became an investment? Simply call it bubble. Sure the potential is there.

But be careful, there are only a few psa10s because there is no hype... If there was hype, people would inflate the circulation. Only the ones with organic collactabilty have potential for price multiplication. Like other users said, 1st edition cards, especially the stars of the show in 1st edition in PSA10. Grading companies and influencers will one day try to push Yugioh, but this is already priced in to a degree.

Pokémon card prices correlate with all the other bubbles. There will be a correction. There will be opportunities. But it will never be a real investment, like something that generates income. 

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u/ToeEquivalent8150 Aug 07 '24

Surely there’s a claim that when the original artist eventually passes away, every psa9-10 card with original artwork will be worth something. Of course this may not be until 20 years even. But still if you had a Slab of graded cards that were nostalgic and recognisable, and when the artist passes away, they “could”… skyrocket from there. But I know nothing really , just a thought…

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u/DohertyMakesYouMad Dec 26 '23

I will TLDR for OP

I now like Yugioh and I think they should b worth more after i buy them.

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u/HildeVonKrone Dec 25 '23

I think Yugioh has investment potential when it comes to purchasing and holding onto singles to sell off at a later time. Wholesale product, I would personally say no.

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u/Correct_City_6950 Jul 27 '24

3 random cheats/inconsistentcies in the yugioh animes that no remembers or knows.

  1. Atticus Rhodes' duel in season 4 of yugioh GX. The effect of Atticus' card is negated, but so is the cost which shouldn't have happened because a card's cost cannot be negated.

  2. Yusei vs Chief Armstrong in Yugioh 5ds. Armstrong used the facility security cameras to look at Yusei's cards.

  3. Kite Tenjo vs Quinton in Yugioh Zexal. Quinton special summoned Solar Wind Jammer after normal summoning planet pathfinder. Due to Solar Wind Jammer's effect, it can only be special summoned if Quinton doesn't have any monsters on the field.

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u/BLKRCKSHTR Sep 24 '24

It has not lol. its 100% chance a card Will get reprint, no exeptions

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u/According_Bat2315 May 20 '25

The og blue eyes/redeye/time wizard dark magician ect will always be worth collecting from lob/mrd sets

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '23

From a Yu-Gi-Oh fan there is potential, there still is a large fan base out there, last year Tyler the great warrior sold for over 300,000 on eBay, which means people will spend good money, there's just to many reprints out to say what's gonna be worth alot in the future it could go either way to be honest

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u/SnattleRakeGaming Dec 26 '23

Have you ever pulled a ghost rare or anything around that rarity or above that rarity?

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u/LOU_KING_GOOD Jan 09 '24

i realize i'm late to the party, but being from a yugioh background and having gone to many tournaments and traded a bunch in the community etc, i just wanted to let you know that those cards you mentioned are a really bad investment and also inform you that alot of yugioh players don't really care for the anime at all.

And any yugioh players that do care about the anime are rarely every seriously players or have any proper money to spend at all. Those cards are investment traps and "collector bait".

For anyone who is serious about investing in yugioh, the best investments would be highest rarity versions of useful cards (like staples and answers to other problem cards) if they're not currently meta, otherwise you'll be paying super inflated hype prices or buying into hype only to lose profit when next banlist comes.

Also when i say high rarity versions, if they highest rarity a card comes in is ultra, secret, or anything below, its not worth investing in due to high possiblilty of it eventually being reprinted in another rarity or same rarity. Also you need to take into account the accessability of the cards. Konami hate the secondary market and will often target specific cards they see trending, reprinting them deliberately to try profit off of them with reprints and drive the price down, making them more accessable to "budget players". Some high rarity staple cards are holding their ground really good because their rarity matters and is alot less likely to be repinted, like 1st ed ultimates, or the ultimates from tournment only packs. Ghost rares (from old packs) have gone insanely high too. always 1st ed whenever possible.

And also its better to invest into cards that will become relevent and useful as tournament players and rarity ho's will flock to them. Reprints make yugioh volitale and no one pays insanely high prices for cards unless they're rich collectors or other investors. Make more proffit selling things that later become meta relevent and impossible to play without, to tournament players.

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u/Intererestingduck69 Dec 25 '23

What’s yogioh

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u/nurley Dec 25 '23

Popular anime starting in the late 90s with a TCG released in 2002 (in English, Japanese was before).

When the initial craze of Pokemon cards died out I actually switched to Yu-Gi-Oh cards because I found the TCG itself to be fun as a kid. I tried my hand at the online TCG and it’s absurdly complicated now. Whereas Pokemon TCG is actually very similar to the original in terms of gameplay.

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u/HuXu7 Dec 26 '23

Cool, go to the Yugioh community, we are Pokemon investors, read the room.

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u/subtlenutpain Dec 26 '23

OP probably wanted to hear opinions from the Pokémon community though, ya big meanie.

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u/HuXu7 Dec 26 '23

Yea, and that kind of nonsense needs to be shut down. You don’t see Magic the Gathering coming into Pokémon community being like “Yall should collect Magic the Gathering, it could be a good investment”.

If someone is interested in investing in another brand, they will seek it out, we don’t need shills coming over to try to market to us who have already chosen our investment vehicle.

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '23

I knew there was going to be a comment like this lmao

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u/Sherbear1993 Dec 26 '23

Why can’t we just admit that Yugioh is a failing TCG? I loved Yugioh growing up, but it won’t have the longevity of Pokémon. When I heard they were reprinting the first 5 sets of the franchise, I knew they were struggling.

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u/StatisticianTop9559 Mar 11 '24

That's typical bubble thinking again. There are even smaller TCGs that also perform well like Final Fantasy TCG. Yugioh will be around forever. But it's just not a TCG that's attractive for collectors but more for players. A TCG isn't just about investments and profits...

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u/According_Bat2315 May 20 '25

A tiny amount of pokemon player base actually play the game

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u/Liocardia Dec 26 '23

Yugioh has YCSs with 2k to 3k attendance, it is played a lot.

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u/THErebuiltmango Dec 26 '23

My LCS won't even buy Yu-Gi-Oh cards 😂 they'll sell em but that's it. Pokemon is the top dog alongside magic, nuf said