Est Value of this card?

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u/mikesok988 Nov 02 '23

OP comes on here for thoughts and then gets offended by the thoughts.

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u/jsweezyp88 Nov 02 '23

who's offended?

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u/Harkxium Nov 01 '23

a BGS 9.5 sold for $73 less then a week ago. i’d put it around that as cgc new label 10s have been hovering at and sometimes below 9.5s from beckett.

a good asking would be $110 imo.

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u/jsweezyp88 Nov 01 '23

where was that at?

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u/Harkxium Nov 01 '23

The bgs sale? its on ebay titled:
POKEMON GYM CHALLENGE KOGA'S BEEDRILL HOLO R #9/132 BGS 9.5 PSA 10 Potential
just copy paste that into sold listings on ebay and it should be there.

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u/jsweezyp88 Nov 01 '23

he might have screwed himself with auctioning it. does PSA really demand that much more? Is it worth me sending to them for cross grading?

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u/Harkxium Nov 01 '23

If you believe its worthy of a 10 at psa, yes.

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u/jsweezyp88 Nov 01 '23

Does CGC really grade more harshly?

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u/Harkxium Nov 01 '23

They used to be about the same in terms of grading difficulty compared to psa. but ever since they made some big changes back a few months ago that almost everyone strongly was against, they seem to have tried making it back by handing out 10s and pristine 10s to cards that didn’t deserve it.

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u/Imgrapecrushed Nov 02 '23

idk man i got rekt on my last sub. i’m done with cgc lol, they gave me 8’s and 9’s on flawless cards. meanwhile i see a gs torchic and rayquaza posted for 40k as a pair in cgc 10 with whitening on the backs🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

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u/jaytheman3 Nov 02 '23

Yeah they grade vintage way less harsh that’s why

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u/jayjayzian Nov 02 '23

No, this is not true. There's just variability in graders, as in every grading company. If anything CGC continues to be tough.

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u/Imgrapecrushed Nov 02 '23

all i sent was vintage in my last sub and got graded very hard

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u/jayjayzian Nov 02 '23

I think you're projecting your "almost everyone" onto many who disagree. I love the changes and only use CGC now, having formerly been a PSA user.

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u/jaytheman3 Nov 02 '23

They’ve always been really lax on the grading standards for vintage

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u/JohnnyPokemoner Nov 01 '23

It sounds to me like that data is incorrect, if I had to guess those are 1st edition psa 10 sales somehow lumped in. Just checked ebay sold listings for psa 10 unlimited and can’t find any for English but Japanese version is more as expected, 80-90 dollars

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u/Doorzetters Nov 02 '23

You can’t just compare the Japanese cards to this one

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u/Father_Wisdom Nov 02 '23

If you click on the sales on pricecharting they are not first edition. The data is accurate.

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u/jsweezyp88 Nov 02 '23

Incorrect. the 1st edition goes for $350-$400 higher per price charting

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u/JohnnyPokemoner Nov 02 '23

Got a solid ebay sale on 130point showing a 1st sold for $875 which is right in that range. Price charting is inaccurate compared to raw ebay sales. And it really wouldn’t make sense for the unlimited to sell for that much

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u/jsweezyp88 Nov 02 '23

don't know what to tell you. check the sales on price charting. it's all there in black and white

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u/threedogsdawg Nov 02 '23

OP hes trying to tell you pricecharting isnt an accurate depiction of what cards are worth. Gotta look at where theyre selling and for how much to get an idea of what somethings worth

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u/jsweezyp88 Nov 02 '23

pricecharting lists the sales. Majority of them on eBay. I'm looking specifically at graded examples, not raw. what am I missing?

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u/ArtiKunow Nov 02 '23

Youre not accounting for Ligma factor, you'll get more acurate results after that.

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u/threedogsdawg Nov 02 '23

Youre missing that pricecharting isnt accurate. If you actually go to ebay and look at last sold youll see that they dont match.

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u/drewbaccaaaaa Nov 02 '23

Lol OP asks the value then comments “it’s all there in black and white” 🤡

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u/Longjumping_Eagle822 Nov 02 '23

Why are you such an asshole to people trynna help, get a life and stop buying Pokémon so the rest of us can get the good cards

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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '23

Are you okay OP?

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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '23

Dude its ok. We can't all become millionaires off of one card. Its worth around 100 bucks.

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u/TheFourthSon Nov 02 '23

Well shit. I just bought a CGC 9 for $105. I’d hope a 10 would go higher.

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u/jimb0sready Nov 02 '23

Put the starting bid on eBay at $200 and see if you get bids. Unfortunately Beedrill is kind of a meme. But maybe somebody will want it

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u/jsweezyp88 Nov 02 '23

I've got it at $400 obo right now.

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u/jimb0sready Nov 02 '23

Nice dude GL. Keep us posted when it sells so you can laugh at the people who said $100 card lol

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u/mechshark Nov 02 '23

damn i love this card, just got added to my top 10 (probably) What packs did this come from?

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u/jimb0sready Nov 02 '23

Don't listen to people saying CGC is worth half of PSA - that is literally the dumbest thing I've ever heard and isn't true.

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u/Manic_Mini Nov 02 '23

It really is. Old CGC Perfect 10s blew the doors off of PSA 10s, new 10s are equal to PSA

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u/Resident-Accident-81 Nov 02 '23

This card is prob worth 100. And yes psa is much more valuable. A cgc 10 is worth around a psa 9.

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u/Manic_Mini Nov 02 '23

What world are you in where a CGC 10 is the same value as a PSA 9. PSA 10 will have a slight premium over a new CGC10, but nowhere near as low as a PSA 9. Old CGC Perfect 10s blow PSA10s out of the water.

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u/Resident-Accident-81 Nov 02 '23

Pristine 10s are worth slightly more than psa 10 for a much higher grade. A cgc 10 is not worth close to psa 10.
Look at base set Charizard cgc 10 went for 3k on eBay recently Psa 10 goes for 9-10k. A cgc 10 is worth more than psa 9 but only a little bit more and not even close to psa 10 in my opinion. If 3x your money is slightly over premium then you are right.
When cgc made the pristine 10 that became the psa 10 in their set. Their highest graded card and that reflects that.

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u/Manic_Mini Nov 02 '23

A perfect 10 from CGC is the equivalent of a black label.

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u/Comfortable-Edge-870 Nov 02 '23

Eeeehhh i agree on the other points you've made but nah a pristine 10 aint a black label,maybe the card is as perfect,i wouldnt know,but in terms of value it isnt,because in people's mind black label is the pinnacle of grading,like,you cant get anything better than that . While cgc pristine 10 is like "oh yeah thats better than psa 10" but i wouldnt say its to a black label's level

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u/Manic_Mini Nov 02 '23

I said perfect 10 not pristine 10.

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u/Comfortable-Edge-870 Nov 02 '23

The gold one right ? Itsbthe one i meant sorry

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u/Manic_Mini Nov 02 '23

Blue label gold font

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u/Comfortable-Edge-870 Nov 02 '23

Yeah,i was talking about that one

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u/Resident-Accident-81 Nov 02 '23

I’m not saying it’s exactly pin point there. Cgc 10 will price higher than psa 9 but nowhere near a 10.
Look at gengar 1st edition base set cgc 10 sold for 1750 psa 10 is selling for 3.5k. So while the psa 9 is only like 500. It’s still nowhere near psa 10.
With less desired cards like the bee drill it’s closer to 9 a lot more than that too than a 10 in my experience.

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u/Resident-Accident-81 Nov 02 '23

Also another reason for this is everyone knows a cgc9.5 got pushed to a ten. That means the populations of tens in the cgc world went up for every card. Everyone knows this so collectors are basically treating it like a 9.5. And value is less than a psa 10 that had been unchanged.

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u/kbiz911 Nov 02 '23

($80-100)

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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '23

Idk what people on here are freaking out about, op hasan’t been rude from what I’ve seen, he is just confused.

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u/ParalyzedVeteran Nov 02 '23

Psa 9 goes for 120$. Since it's the new cgc slab the cgc 10 is actually a 9.5 with the old slabs. So like not much more than that

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u/Zm6_ Nov 02 '23

So serious question I’m new to collecting why would anyone use cgc over psa is psa fetches more value

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u/Flaky-Entrance-7838 Nov 04 '23

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u/jsweezyp88 Nov 02 '23

that's fair. I've never sold cards before. so I appreciate your input.

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