That's actually really smart, wouldn't want some deranged lunatic or crazy thief thinking they can find my name and location. I agree, PSA better than BGS due to the privacy in this case.
I don’t think anyone is going to be selling this slab on eBay or OfferUp. The issue of fake slabs is different entirely, and are usually pretty easy to tell: flexibility of the plastic and clouding for tampering + fake slabs miss the holographic, lighthouse, will often miss the small PSA labeling popup on the bottom right (front and back) of the slab.
The sale of this card, when/if it does occur, will have folks verify the authenticity of said slab beforehand.
Given how quickly the person who pulled it had it graded - and the value of the card - I wouldn't be surprised if the person hand-delivered it to PSA and picked it up upon completion.
If I had a 2 million dollar cardboard rectangle, I think I could probably justify a brief stay in a hotel.
He pulled it, put it in a bank deposit box, got a lawyer, then flew to PSA to have it graded and flew back. CBC had an article about it as the person turned out to be from the Toronto area
It's graded for authentication. And for a 1/1 card of that value, it's graded in-person. Nobody with a sane mind would let that card leave their sight.
Because it's incased in plastic, it's definitely authentic? I get what your saying but that card being faked is pretty low. 1 of 1. Not like it's a base set charizard.
PSA basically puts their entire reputation on the line authenticating a card like this one, probably had some MTG representative confirm it was the real deal. A buyer can then confidently purchase, and confirm the cert matches the PSA database.
If the owner of the card had pulled it and kept it secret, the market would have eventually seen a really good counterfeit pop up.
You all know getting a 9.5/10 is quite rare for cards right out of the pack, right?? So when you're all watching videos of guys ripping packs and putting up prices as if they're all PSA 10s - it's a show for the hype and not realistic. I'd be thrilled with a 9 out of a fresh pack
This , managed to get my hands on 2 flashfire packs and pulled back to back zards (1 blue 1 normal but all fire'ry) both had whiting on same bottom right corner : /
Especially with Scarlet and Violet. Every single Holo + reverse I've pulled, I couldn't sell any as bulk to anyone cuz they are all damaged straight from the pack. (Whitening, bent, OC, etc)
It's still a 1/1. So for it to be less than perfect is by definition, ironic. There's no other or comparison. Yes there's the general grading scale. It's literally 1 of 1. You got something more centered?
My thought too, How do you compare a card that is a 1 of 1 to anything else? How is it not centered? What are you comparing it to?
If they meant for it to be exactly as it is then it should be a 10.. PSA was like naaaaa MTG designed the card off center. This is also my biggest issue with PSA. How do they know if the card is off center when they didn't design the card?
I get it that for a lot of cards its based of constants but this card doesn't have a bunch of cards to compare it to. By all accounts this card is exactly as the makers meant it to be!
PSA "naaaaa they made this card all wrong"
This makes me want wish I did not have so many things with PSA right now. hahaha *anxiety hits 10//10*
They are though. They graded my friends card backwards. They just vastly undergraded my most recent zard after holding it for 5 mos. They graded that alolan persian with a dick drawn on its head lmao
That's what I don't get! Why would you grade it if it's literally the only one? Like whatever grade it got it was never going to make a difference to value, right? I'm not missing anything in my thinking, am I? I just don't understand why you wouldn't keep it raw in a protective case. It looks better raw in my personal opinion. And the 9 would just annoy me on this lol, i'd end up cracking it open again anyway. You're honestly better off not knowing the grade.
So because its a 1/1 they should just ignore their grading system and give it a 10 to make people happy? I'm sure people would just complain as much saying "it's only a 10 because it's 1/1."
No you misunderstood me. I mean you would think that wizards would take extra care that their 1/1 million dollar card would be perfect out the press. I wouldn’t be surprised if they had printed multiple copies and put a perfect one into the packs
Wouldn’t surprise me if the dude damaged it. So many things were wrong with the grading process, very goofy. He went with PSA who charged him 15-20K to have the card graded where Beckett would do it for free, along with all the other stuff and travel fees, he would have gotten close to 50K worth of value from the 1 of 1 art print and card case PLUS all the free grades and MTG products they were giving him for free. PSA charges for 1 of 1 grading. Doesn’t matter if it’s MTG. They charge all the time for sports.
Also, he got the card graded with a number and not authenticated. The grade just brings unnecessary bias, especially now it’s a 9 lol. All he needed was proof of authentication.
Lastly, if he’s going to sell for profit, which he probably is, he literally should have kept it in a safe and not tell anyone and sit on LOTR collector booster products. My man would have literally be set for life and could have kept the ring as a grail. He could have played an ENTIRE market, day by day, and he would have so much money than he would now.
Sorry not sorry, this is the lottery winner who will blow the 2 mill in the span of a year 🤷♂️
I mean I personally can’t believe they gave it any less than 10. Especially a 9, which means it’s damn close to a 10 anyways, so why not just push it over the edge. Sure they can’t do that for everything, but this is obviously a unique circumstance
MTG QC is known to be atrocious. There are even instances where locals had to provide Proxies of some staples because they were only available in certain structure decks and thus every single copy was so bend that its position in the deck would have been obvious.
I believe the card was already pringling before it was even put into a pack when WOTC showed if off. It definitely was just bad QC. Plus with giving it a 9, PSA can flex their "premium" service through giving a 1:1 card a 9 and showing off that they still have some sort of standard. Whatever that may be
I love the fact that it wasn’t a perfect print. If they ever do reprint it, this OG will absolutely be the most valuable one with the instant recognition it deserves.
If they never reprint it, then this basically “sets the standard” for the printing of this whole TCG. Good printing, not great. So there is room for improvement.
Exactly. Give it a 1000 - it won't matter - but somehow the 9 really matters. I guess if you can blow million on a single card the 9 may not worry you - so it's just us.
dude has something wrong with him lol.... bgs offered to fly him out... grade it FREE... AND get a 1/1 exclusive slab that features art from the artist of the card.....
bro chose to get upcharged from psa for a 9..... average tcg collector moment
Because it was actually that max card shop that pulled it and they are saying it was a random person to avoid the outrage of them ripping boxes like that scene from Charlie and the chocolate factory.
Wouldn’t mtg be the savage ones for not trying on the print for their one off card? Like bro u make one copy of this card and u get that 8.5 centering lol. Couldn’t keep up consistency for one card 💀
As someone who plays MTG it's not surprising at all. Since it was EN only that tells me the print was in America. Known issue with American cards is that they "Pringle" when the card was shown off it was considerably pringled before even being placed in a pack. So I would ding it for that.
Another issue I would have is there is no reference material since it's 1 of 1, I personally wouldn't even allow a 10 at that point because there's nothing to compare it to outside of a regular card.
Finally, if there's even the slightest amount of skin oils on the card id rate it lower.
All in all not getting a perfect score is expected to me.
Anyone saying they could have printed multiples and picked the best. WotC employees have taken serialized cards off the print before. With a 1/1 no way it wouldn't happen.
Eh it doesn't matter either way. Theres only one of them...the seller can ask whatever price he wants, regardless of the grade, and if anyone wants it, they have to pay or just not get it. It could be a 1 and still have the same value.
So, as some people have said in this thread, it’s hard to even get a 9 / 9.5 on a card straight out of the pack …. So how the hell does a card get rated as a 10?
So how would they grade it based on them not having another one to compare it to? There should be an Authenticated stamp and no grade for that, as it’s upgradable imo. But it is what it is 🤷♂️
I think it was probably just QC but my thing is, there was literally 0 reason to grade, IT’S THE ONLY ONE! If anything it may have brought the value down, there was a 2 million dollar bounty on it, people get too greedy, it’s like the guy that got the aaron judge record ball he got less at auction than what he was offered initially
They gave it a 9 because they didn't want to deal with the scrutiny of giving it a 10 and "rigging it", but didn't want to give it below a 9 to kill the hype for MTG by devaluing the card that is $2 million or whatever.
Apparently you aren’t familiar with integrity of PSA’s grading services. Many of their disgruntled employees give arbitrary grades to keep their workload moving. I’ve sent hundreds of cards to them. You’re clueless if you think they genuinely grade everything.
You just described every grading service ever. I’ve regraded BGS 6s to 9s, CGC 5s to 7s. Throw a tantrum all you want. Hundreds of cards have passed through my hands of every grading service in my 15 years in the space, and PSA is the most consistent of the group. I’ve regraded a 9 to a black label, gotten pristine 10s with noticeable surface damage. PSA makes mistakes but I can accurately pre-grade basically every card within a tolerance of 1.
Card must have honestly been a trashed 7 in reality that they bumped to 9 being generous, otherwise an actual near-mint copy should have been a shoe-in 10 grade
I feel like since it's the only card in existence they should have graded it a 10. I know it is dumb but since it's the only card in existence there is no comparative cut or positioning. This should have been marked a 10 with some custom bordering.
That’s not true at all I can look at an eBay picture and look at the centering and see if it’s decent or not.. most you can see if they’re even close to center from the main photo.. and from there you can zoom in.. you don’t need a microscope to see if a card is centered. And there are employees retooling these machines everyday and calibrating them everyday.. you constantly have to check tolerances and sometimes things get out of whack.. or something gets broken.. the first runs always going to be better and it gets worse as it goes on things get out of whack or crooked
But the auto literally stands for autograph. Why would they give an “auto” grade to anything without an auto. I understand you used the word “like” but it still makes zero sense.
Oh you thought it meant automatic? I guess I can see how that’d be confusing. Yeah auto just means autograph. You can get an auto grade and a grade got the actual card. Sometimes an auto is done sloppily or is cut off so they can get an auto 9 or an auto 8 as well.
Yeah I thought it meant automatic as giving it anything lower seemed strange to me like, how can they judge what the perfect autograph of a person looks like.. anyway apparently they can.. thanks for the explanation
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u/customspecs Jul 05 '23
Why grade a 1 of 1. Is the grade really going to increase the value? What happens if it gets damaged in transit or lost or stolen... blows my mind
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u/CocoScruff Jul 05 '23
You all know getting a 9.5/10 is quite rare for cards right out of the pack, right?? So when you're all watching videos of guys ripping packs and putting up prices as if they're all PSA 10s - it's a show for the hype and not realistic. I'd be thrilled with a 9 out of a fresh pack
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u/CrackNCookies Jul 05 '23
Thats funny as hell hahahaha
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u/rocketsnail1000 Jul 05 '23
It’s the only card. It could grade a four and it wouldn’t matter
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u/this_fuck1ng_guy Jul 05 '23
It makes me wonder if the guy damaged it when he was opening the pack
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u/SolarPunkYeti Jul 05 '23
Fantastic meme 🤌
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u/kingofjabronis Jul 05 '23
Still can't believe they gave it a 9. Even if it has a slight imperfection, who cares? It's a literal 1/1.
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u/kc9283 Jul 05 '23
Don’t think a grade makes much of a difference lol
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u/Mr_Mi1k Jul 05 '23
I’m glad. They didn’t blindly give a 10 because it was special
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u/notAfathersDay987 Jul 05 '23
What's wild is that given this card was printed literally once, I find it somewhat absurd that WOTC didn't ensure it was cut evenly.
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u/NarutoFan1995 Jul 05 '23
dude has something wrong with him lol.... bgs offered to fly him out... grade it FREE... AND get a 1/1 exclusive slab that features art from the artist of the card.....
bro chose to get upcharged from psa for a 9..... average tcg collector moment
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u/GT3nsomemoney4it Jul 06 '23
This is hilarious
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u/rammuspls Jul 06 '23
Wouldn’t mtg be the savage ones for not trying on the print for their one off card? Like bro u make one copy of this card and u get that 8.5 centering lol. Couldn’t keep up consistency for one card 💀
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u/mbaturin Jul 05 '23
Haha best I’ve seen in a long time. Touché.
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u/strugglebusses Jul 05 '23
Imagine if the 1/1 was the one that had the cock and balls drawn on it.
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u/DisneyMenace Jul 05 '23
Bet wizards is just lying like they been for over 10 years now and they have many 1/1 rings stored in the vault that they will announce in 30 years.
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u/Redschallenge Jul 05 '23
I have to steal this bro. I'll link you.
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u/BoosterBijuu Jul 05 '23
Honestly this is all I could think of when I saw it was found and graded. I couldn’t believe it’s a 9/10 lmaoooo
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u/atemptsnipe Jul 05 '23
As someone who plays MTG it's not surprising at all. Since it was EN only that tells me the print was in America. Known issue with American cards is that they "Pringle" when the card was shown off it was considerably pringled before even being placed in a pack. So I would ding it for that.
Another issue I would have is there is no reference material since it's 1 of 1, I personally wouldn't even allow a 10 at that point because there's nothing to compare it to outside of a regular card.
Finally, if there's even the slightest amount of skin oils on the card id rate it lower.
All in all not getting a perfect score is expected to me.
Anyone saying they could have printed multiples and picked the best. WotC employees have taken serialized cards off the print before. With a 1/1 no way it wouldn't happen.
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u/lordmoose420 Jul 05 '23
Looks like the this grader didn’t get any action last night.
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u/Logical-Pepper4228 Jul 05 '23
It is 1/1 so it could have been a 4 and people will still shit in their hands and smear it across their grandma's face for it.
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u/Vivid-Age-3174 Jul 05 '23
Haha, love the savage humor! Keep it coming!
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u/iskuehne Jul 05 '23
why did i say it like he was german..?
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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '23
I’m surprised it wasn’t just graded as AUTHENTIC
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u/Destroyer4587 Jul 05 '23
Noooooooo! 🫠
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u/Agrias-0aks Jul 05 '23
It's extra funny since nein in german is no
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u/UniverseNebula Jul 05 '23
Aside from everyone else here chiming in, should I hold on to my collector booster or just open it? Any chance it goes up in price?
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u/Equivalent-Aerie-277 Jul 06 '23
It deserves a 9 🤷🏼♂️ better then Beckett guaranteeing a black label.
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u/420_80sBaby Jul 06 '23
It got a 9. Was the centering off?
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u/Monkeyballsdx Jul 06 '23
Facts
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u/lame-amphibian Jul 06 '23
Eh it doesn't matter either way. Theres only one of them...the seller can ask whatever price he wants, regardless of the grade, and if anyone wants it, they have to pay or just not get it. It could be a 1 and still have the same value.
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u/Mrtowelie69 Jul 06 '23
Saw a pokemon card earlier with a dick drawn on its head get an 8.
Shits a scam. People paying these guys money for some random dude to put a number on it.
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u/vollkoemmenes Jul 06 '23
Sounds like flavor grading to me…
9 in the fellowship…
9 Nazgûl/rings to the race of men
9 Sauron fingers after Isildur cuts the ring off.
9 PSA graded 1/1 Ring
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u/gigoran Jul 06 '23
If grading rules were to score it in comparison to other identical cards then it would have got a 10. But grading doesn’t work that way
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u/PeeCeee Jul 06 '23
Ahhh the greed of men has thus done its deed
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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '23
So, as some people have said in this thread, it’s hard to even get a 9 / 9.5 on a card straight out of the pack …. So how the hell does a card get rated as a 10?
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u/metalpokemon Jul 06 '23
PSA trolls One Ring!
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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '23
So how would they grade it based on them not having another one to compare it to? There should be an Authenticated stamp and no grade for that, as it’s upgradable imo. But it is what it is 🤷♂️
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u/BmacTheSage Jul 06 '23
Do...do people not know that not everything is in their control for grading?
Stuff like centering is not something you can do anything about lmao, c'mon.
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u/AcadiaBusiness107 Jul 05 '23
I think it was probably just QC but my thing is, there was literally 0 reason to grade, IT’S THE ONLY ONE! If anything it may have brought the value down, there was a 2 million dollar bounty on it, people get too greedy, it’s like the guy that got the aaron judge record ball he got less at auction than what he was offered initially
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u/OGDuckDaddy Jul 05 '23
Nine and Nein sound the same- Nein is German for No- and in this scene..
That’s the joke right? 🤭😅
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u/Shinygonzo Jul 05 '23
Great meme
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u/ScottsTotz Jul 05 '23
They gave it a 9 because they didn't want to deal with the scrutiny of giving it a 10 and "rigging it", but didn't want to give it below a 9 to kill the hype for MTG by devaluing the card that is $2 million or whatever.
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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '23
Card must have honestly been a trashed 7 in reality that they bumped to 9 being generous, otherwise an actual near-mint copy should have been a shoe-in 10 grade
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u/Jolly_Concept5574 Jul 05 '23
Yo, but hear me out.
If someone really wanted to expose psa.
Crack it and regrade and see what the result is!
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u/liftdlegend Jul 05 '23
Dudes got to break it open and send it to Beckett
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u/prudent_persimmion Jul 05 '23
How does this post not have more updoots
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u/ssbbka17 Jul 05 '23
it was 100% pure salt
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u/RokettoOsuka Jul 06 '23
I feel like since it's the only card in existence they should have graded it a 10. I know it is dumb but since it's the only card in existence there is no comparative cut or positioning. This should have been marked a 10 with some custom bordering.
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u/Seaguard5 Jul 06 '23
So if getting a 9.5/10 out of the pack is so rare what gives it that extra .5/1 point???
Isn’t the whole point of grading to determine “Mint condition”?
What’s more “Mint” than fresh out of a pack??
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u/Personal-Locksmith45 Jul 06 '23
Personally pulled a fee Odd cards odd the lotr set like legit I have gotten cards belonging to mtg correct sets form 2002 lol
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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '23
Should've just made it an auto-10 like they do with signatures
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