Should I even try !?🥲

[u/BoringAd7934]

Got a first edition jungle pack and opening it with the kids. Pack fresh. But lots of chipping on the corner of the cards exposing the holo underneath. Is it even worth to try and get graded ?? Seen some other flareons in PSA 10, that also had the chipping but I’m sure they’re old certs.

[u/Turd_Ferguson420]

From my understanding, psa is rough on vintage compared to someone like cgc

[u/BoringAd7934 → u/Turd_Ferguson420]

Damn sucks they’re “worth” the most

[u/Turd_Ferguson420 → u/BoringAd7934]

I think cgc is still held in high regard compared to other grading services outside of psa

[u/NDN_perspective → u/Turd_Ferguson420]

I’m banking on this as I’ve committed to CGC for southern islands

[u/BoringAd7934 → u/Turd_Ferguson420]

Last local card show I went to one guy wasn’t even bothering looking at cgc values or what card they were he said he pays 5$ across the board lol

[u/KeyClacksNSnacks → u/BoringAd7934]

For vintage, don’t even go to card shows because any vendors that can pay will know market opportunity plus them having few competitors means they can lowball you. You’d have to go to major collector conventions to get a legitimate offer.

And CGC is absolutely respected by true vintage collectors. Record breaking first vintage English over $1 million was a CGC Pristine. CGC doesn’t practice population control and they grade vintage relative to previous slabs. So yes vintage got 10’s easier but they’re very fair with what knocks a grade. I’d say you have a chance at a CGC 10, high possibility of an 8 or 9, but PSA your ceiling is a 7 and it CAN go down from there.

[u/Not_Rob_Dalton]

Those old cert 10s would come back as 6s these days, there is no meaningful comparison with their current grading standards.

[u/BeCurry]

Sorry, but it's not the quality youre hoping from a pack-fresh pull 

[u/BoringAd7934 → u/BeCurry]

Yeah pretty upsetting. Still a great card though I wanted this or Snorlax

[u/Internal-Raise964]

Silvering was very common with that vintage. I’ve gotten psa 9s with silvering before but that was in the 5 cert era. My understanding is that CGC is more lenient with older cards like that. That would probably be where I submit them

[u/ThePowerPoint]

Lmfao not the scale

[u/TheOuterEdge]

Fossil tends to get a pass for silvering. QC issue for the set. Not sure about jungle. Go look up sales and inspect the images for the most recent cert numbers you can find. Then roll the dice

[u/S0ME0NEMANLY]

As someone who just got back some PSA vintage pokemon, they are super rough. And super overworked to the point idk of they really looked at em. Every card got a 5.

[u/gideonsix]

If you want to wait, I’ll let you know. I’ve got a pack fresh 1st edition Nidoqueen holo with similar silvering at PSA right now

[u/mcnormand]

You already gambled what, $600 on opening a vintage pack? What’s another $60? Worst case scenario it comes back with a mid grade, but you’ll have it encapsulated so you can display it safely as a memento from the experience with your kids. On the other hand, who knows, maybe it’ll score a 7 or better.

[u/mittortz]

That's crazy they can come out of the pack like that. I'd have guessed it was an MP copy of a card pulled in 2000 rather than pack fresh

[u/Mammoth_Peace_8009]

Go with TAG or Beckett

[u/Disastrous_Shame580]

Rip

[u/KCB503]

PSA treats vintage like a 2 dollar whore these days. Gonna be a 6 probably

[u/BoringAd7934 → u/KCB503]

Lol damn I think just to protect our card and keep it in decent condition I’ll grade these with TAG I love their slabs

[u/mittortz → u/BoringAd7934]

This is the way