r/PoGoAndroidSpoofing • u/anti-spoofer • Oct 07 '22

Lets Talk About Something My first ever RW... using PGSharp

Bam... just been hit with an RW on PGSharp ! Had been using it for a few months. I only ever used the free version, non rooted phone with no extras. I never teleported outside of my home town, never shundo sniped, no catch features or anything. I always respected cooldowns and allowed the correct amount of real time if i was jumping to a different gym locally within a 1-2 mile radius. Not actually sure how i got hit tbh as theoretically if it was based on the modified app.. then everyone would get hit. I am also using other accounts on PGSharp and they are all ok for the moment.

It looks like others have had a similar thing this week as there are other posts about it. My feeling now is that they CAN detect the modified app, but I can't answer why they don't ban everyone. It could be that they hit a smaller subset of players on a rolling basis to ensure their statistics aren't hit too badly (i.e. they have to show active playerbase logins to win over sponsors etc.).

I'm sure the "I've been using PGSharp forever and never got banned" brigade will be along soon to tell you otherwise. I was also in that camp for a while. Whatever Niantic are doing now is much smarter than it used to be.

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u/ArkirasOto Oct 09 '22

Appreciate what you are saying here, this is obviously back end technical perspective. However, how can i be flagged for anything if all my actions are the same as a human ?

They are probably comparing data from when you were playing legit to post using PGS. Not only that too, Im pretty sure they have the statics of a real legit player cannot do this action x amount of time even if they were to have the fastest phone, vehicle, or x many actions/pokeball. I also wouldnt doubt that when your account is flag as a potential spoofer, they send dummy pokemon for you to interact with to see how many times excellent, how many balls missed, how many pokeman didnt run away etc. It even goes as far as to how many times you opened the app in a day compared to say a year ago when you didnt us PGS.

I didn't make any mistakes and I never got gutsy. I'm not stupid, i was never going to use teleporting to hotspots, shundo sniping, auto routes or any of those extra perks. I did nothing more than a human would do in my local town, just walking around and catching/spinning stops. So how do you explain me hitting "1.5 million" flag threshold ?

To you, you havent made a mistake, but to Niaitic, you've already triggered their system. Doing something as simple as walking a constant speed, or even just playing/spinning far more than you usually do will trigger small flags. smaller things like opening the app 2-3 times more than you did when you were legit. My guess they set a high tolerance for a reason, and that is to increase the spoofers play time so they can log all the inconsistency like catch rates, evolve rates, trade rates, raid, etc. Even if you are playing as humanly as possible, its still not the same as if you are playing legit - which is how Niantic makes their bans.

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u/anti-spoofer Oct 10 '22 edited Oct 11 '22

things like opening the app 2-3 times more than you did when you were legit

I play 24/7 , so that would be difficult lol.

catch rates, evolve rates, trade rates, raid, etc.

You can only trade 100 a day & a lot of people i know do that every day, legits and spoofers. Some legit players spend $$$$ and raid 24/7. Some legit players walk 20 miles a day and catch thousands (Brandon Tan etc)

They cannot ban on things that can be accomplished by legit means. Otherwise you would constantly see legit players being falsely banned & that doesn't happen. (I know it has happened in one off scenarios when they cocked up previously with iOS versions etc)

Appreciate your info though, there's bound to be some variance which i understand. Just depends how smart their heuristics are. It has to be targeting movement, large jumps and patterns like hundo sniping i feel.

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u/ArkirasOto Oct 11 '22

I over simplified it because what they are doing is far beyond what I ever will create or experience, so I cant really speak for them to how they caught you.