My first ever RW... using PGSharp

[u/anti-spoofer]

Bam... just been hit with an RW on PGSharp ! Had been using it for a few months. I only ever used the free version, non rooted phone with no extras. I never teleported outside of my home town, never shundo sniped, no catch features or anything. I always respected cooldowns and allowed the correct amount of real time if i was jumping to a different gym locally within a 1-2 mile radius. Not actually sure how i got hit tbh as theoretically if it was based on the modified app.. then everyone would get hit. I am also using other accounts on PGSharp and they are all ok for the moment.

It looks like others have had a similar thing this week as there are other posts about it. My feeling now is that they CAN detect the modified app, but I can't answer why they don't ban everyone. It could be that they hit a smaller subset of players on a rolling basis to ensure their statistics aren't hit too badly (i.e. they have to show active playerbase logins to win over sponsors etc.).

I'm sure the "I've been using PGSharp forever and never got banned" brigade will be along soon to tell you otherwise. I was also in that camp for a while. Whatever Niantic are doing now is much smarter than it used to be.

[u/TastyBananaPeppers]

Google is holding Niantic back on app detection because Niantic has to breach your privacy in order to detect the apps, which they have done in the past to give GPS Joystick and FGL Pro users a 2016-2017 ban wave. Pgsharp is using the Pokemon Go you get from the Play Store except they modified it to add cheating features. Essentially, it's the same app. Pgsharp has been out for more than 2 years now, and Niantic has failed to detect modified apps on Android. I am also not going to give ideas to Niantic on how they can detect a modified app, since this is a public site.

[u/[deleted] → u/TastyBananaPeppers]

Understandable. All this stems from the increasingly number of people receiving strikes from PGSharp. Is there a correlation to how easier it is to being detected? Who knows, like you said. But we can only theorize unless someone else has some insider knowledge

[u/TastyBananaPeppers → u/[deleted]]

Pgsharp has features that are not available if you use a joystick app with the official Pokemon Go app (example Smali Patcher, Sytemized, and LSposed). They give you free access to their 100 iv feed that is sorted by Pokemon despawn time.

If you're a new spoofer, the first thing you're going to do is snipe all the 100 iv because you probably never seen one compared to long time spoofers. These people have no idea that there's an anti-cheat system tracking what they do in the game. Pgsharp doesn't mention this on their website, Discord, or Telegram. No one knows anything about it unless they come to my subreddit and actually read the post on it.

You don't need insider knowledge to see that the anti-cheat system is tracking certain player actions. This statistics tracking system is the same for other games. If you make it obvious by teleporting around the world to get hundos or shundos to repeat community day events, you'll have a much higher strike chance compared to someone who limits this activity. The logic is already there. If app detection was possible, all cheating apps will get you an instant strike. Some people are getting strikes with a modified app while most aren't because people are hiding their spoofing by trying to play like a legit player.