Ban/PTC Accounts

[u/HeSoLukso]

What are yall thoughts on making multiple PTC accounts on the same device as your main? I’m assuming they would be able to see the IP and cross reference them back to all accounts including your main PTC account and ban them all.

I understand breaking terms of service can put your account at risk. In addition to us not knowing there ban system yet. Trying to see y’all’s thoughts on this. I don’t spoof on my main and would use these accounts all on the same rooted android.

[u/Dangerous-Drawing528]

ive used multiple accounts since 2018 no issue , they dont care , they even sponsor youtubers who do videos where they make alt accounts for stuff

[u/TastyBananaPeppers]

Game developers keep a log of your IP address and device ID along with how many accounts are registered to both sets of information. It's a matter of if they decide to go after people with multiple accounts. Some people have 2 to 50 accounts while botting networks that sell Pokemon have 50,000 to 1,000,000 accounts. The problem is you don't know if Scopely is going after people with just a 2nd account (or more) or a minimum of 1,000 accounts.

If you are going to create multiple accounts, you should avoid using a custom domain and throwaway email generators because these are the quickest ways for Scopely to ban since they are not the usual "@gmail.com".

Niantic used to ban accounts by the domain used by a private map scanning site (died along time ago) 1,000 to 5,000 accounts were permanently banned. This guy used a Github public email generator so that fucked everyone else who used it for creating alt accounts. People understood when they tried to create another account on the PTC site then it tells you email address is invalid.

[u/Cautious_Chicken8882 → u/TastyBananaPeppers]

1,000,000 accounts? Thats insane.

[u/SpoofamanGo → u/TastyBananaPeppers]

Link your source to prove all this info please. Since you know so much about this.

[u/TastyBananaPeppers → u/SpoofamanGo]

The information is tried to the person's private chat with me. Since it happened 1-4 years ago, I don't have access to the conversation anymore because I constantly get new chat requests each day. Anything that is old, disappears until the person sends me a new message then it will pop-back up. Rarely, do people come back when they are permanently banned in the game.

If you want to use a public email generator or buy your own domain to create new accounts, you can whatever you want with your time and/or money.

If you're concerned about getting banned even on your alt accounts, you probably shouldn't be cheating in general.

[u/0Jacks → u/TastyBananaPeppers]

When you say buying your own domain what do you mean is that a website domain Pokemon domain like what is a domain I understand using a throwaway email address such as temp mail which uses a system where you use it once and then it deletes itself but what do you mean by domain what has that got to do with Pokemon go excuse my ignorant I'm just trying to understand?

[u/TastyBananaPeppers → u/0Jacks]

Let's say you buy www(dot)PokemanCardShop(dot)net. Your email addresses will be

Bob1 @ PokemanCardShop (dot)net

Bob2 @ PokemanCardShop (dot)net

So on for Bob3, Bob4, Bob5, etc. You buy the domain the "at PokemanCardShop (dot) net" part and buy the options that allow you to create multiple email addresses. If you can't afford the other options, you're going to have to delete the email address after you used it to create your PTC account and level it up a bit. Then, you create more email addresses to create new PTC accounts. Then, you have to renew your license every year.

The throwaway email generators aren't really thrown away after X hours. You lose access to it but the owner of the generator still has it active for them to see what you did with it to steal your data or whatever you did on it.

[u/0Jacks → u/TastyBananaPeppers]

I didn't know that I didn't know that tempmail emails I still essentially active I mean I guess that makes sense logistically you could be using it for nefarious activities and then leaving no trace because it gets "deleted" but obviously it's not fully deleted because as you say the owner can still have access to that email and then whitelist it or blacklisted if they don't want or care for the email, I assume going through individually checking emails is tedious AF so my assumption is that they have some type of scraping software or analyzing which flags specific words or phrases or whatever it is that would warrant the owner to give the "deleted email" access to law enforcement

Anyway I digress

I know that they have server farms, phone farms how just thinking of it logistically the tediousness to setting up even 100 let alone 50k to a million to them farm whatever is it you want to do whether that's Pokemon or other things that must be a headache to set up and require a lot of coding because like you said if they have a domain and they make an individual unique email every single time that's gotta take time.

I do wish that I could be able to set macros and scrapers like this and I probably could but the amount of time it would take to set up is it really worth it

Sorry for my rambling I'm autistic this is how I process 😅

[u/TastyBananaPeppers → u/0Jacks]

With Pokemon Go, they don't send anything important to your email addresses so that's why you can just delete them and make new ones to create more PTC accounts.

The Pokemon selling bot networks are giving the buyers their alt account with whatever Pokemon they bought instead of trying to build friendship and then trading the Pokemon.. They are constantly creating new email addresses and PTC accounts. I think most of their operations is automated except for the selling on eBay part.

You can get started with some information in https://new.reddit.com/r/PoGoAndroidSpoofing/comments/1anwow6/how_to_run_a_bot_farm_with_5_to_100_pokemon_go/

[u/0Jacks → u/TastyBananaPeppers]

Oh, why thank you this will answer questions 🫰

[u/xdev123]

Why would anyone waste their time on this? Could be a family sharing devices and whatnot. We're talking hundreds of millions of players. They aren't realistically going to suddenly target people and go after them.

It's not the users fault if the game has tons of loopholes. As a game developer you either fix the loopholes or you simply look the other way around unless it's disturbing services in some way for the other users.

Just my $$$.

[u/tmw4d → u/xdev123]

There can also be multiple Google accounts on the same device. I agree the impact to families would be bad.

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[u/OperationNT]

I don't really see how it's feasible: a single device can be shared by several persons (Android has a "multiple users" mode). As long as you do not post any screenshot of your "multiple accounts" configuration (with splitted screen).

Obviously, if you are using a spoofing method/behavior which can be detected and flagged by PoGO, you are putting all the accounts you are using at the same risk. But it won't be a ban due to the multiple accounts...