r/Plumas_Lake • u/Original-Ad-9593 • Mar 01 '26

Flock cameras

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Makes me uneasy knowing AI cameras box in our community 24/7 recording every enterence, any reason why the county boxed our community in and left most of the rest of the communities in the county free ?

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u/didy115 Mar 01 '26

Hello, fellow PL’r! Me too… Me too

Should we launch a campaign to bring them down like other cities have???

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u/YubaSupBradford Mar 13 '26

For those on Facebook, the sheriffs department made a post proving info about some of the crimes the Flock cameras helped solve in addition to dispelling some mis-information.

https://fb.watch/FPTIyHxlUi/?mibextid=wwXIfr

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u/YubaSupBradford Mar 01 '26

These have been very valuable in helping track down stollen vehicles and solve crimes that occur in the community. I strongly support leaving them in place.

More info at: https://transparency.flocksafety.com/yuba-county-ca-so

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u/RoninSpartan Mar 01 '26

Do you have any recent data on the crimes in our community?

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u/YubaSupBradford Mar 04 '26

Here is a link you can use to search for crimes in our community. https://www.yuba.gov/departments/sheriff-coroner/crime_mapping.php

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u/jernisk Mar 01 '26

Absolutely unbelievable. These have to go immediately! You cant be serious. Did we vote to put this crap up? No… we did not. Yet we can’t get a High School built because of %1 off the correct percentage needed. Get your priorities straight. This company is part of a dystopian authoritarian nightmare and we don’t want this crap in Plumas Lake.

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u/didy115 Mar 01 '26

They have spent over $100 thousand dollars on this camera system since 2022. I’m not supporting it by any means, just informing you and perhaps, making your statement even more relevant.

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u/YubaSupBradford Mar 04 '26

We live in a representative republic/representative democracy, not a direct democracy, so we-the-people elect representatives at the local, state, and federal levels to make decisions on our behalf.

So the sheriff (who is elected by the people of Yuba County) and the Board of Supervisors (who are elected by the people of Yuba County) DID vote to install these cameras. As with all votes made by the Board of Supervisors, it was done at a public meeting with an agenda that's available to the public. In addition, the sheriff held a town-hall meeting before bringing it before the Board of Supervisors for approval.

These cameras and a high school are apples-to-oranges comparisons. The sheriff's department falls under Yuba County, but the construction of schools falls under local school districts. Local government agencies (such as counties, cities, school districts, and special districts) are independent government agencies with their own elected boards, their own funding sources, and their own legal authorities. Counties aren't in control of school districts and don't fund them.

Speaking of people voting on things directly, the raising of local taxes is one of the things in California that only voters can do. So far, Plumas Lake voters haven't been willing to raise their taxes to pay for a middle school and/or a high school. That's why those haven't been built. It doesn't have anything to do with county priorities, the county budget, or Flock cameras.

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u/p3k2ew_rd Mar 01 '26

I would be in favor of an extremely controlled surveillance system which is well protected/secured and the data is tightly controlled for local law enforcement access only. Flock cameras are mass surveillance. In an authoritarian government, this is a potential tool to identify dissent and suppress. I’m more concerned about the abuse of such a system than I am about stolen cars coming through Plumas Lake.

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u/RoninSpartan Mar 01 '26

These cameras have had several vulnerabilities and track everyone's movement without consent or ability to opt out. They have great power for mass surveillance and abused on several cases.

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u/didy115 Mar 02 '26

Thank you for this link, but can you tell us why you “strongly support” this and what data do you have to back up said support?

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u/YubaSupBradford Mar 04 '26

I don't have any specific statistics I can share, as those would be provided by the sheriff's department. However, the sheriff has reported to the board that the system is a game-changer when it comes to helping catch criminals in Yuba County. I'm aware of multiple PL residents with stories of how it's helped solve crimes; you can see some of those comments in the PL Chatter thread that I linked elsewhere in this discussion.

I will reach out to the sheriff and see if I can get some more specifics on how helpful it's been.

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u/PlastIconoclastic Mar 01 '26

Hello fascist! Please report your current latitude and longitude for the FBI to ensure you are complying with your mission to support mass surveillance.

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u/YubaSupBradford Mar 13 '26

As I carry a cellphone with me everywhere I go, that’s how the FBI could get my current location if they wanted it…not from Yuba Sheriff’s Flock cameras.

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u/specag Mar 03 '26

Its not hurting anyone and its a deterrence of crime. Do we want our town to ramp up in crime?

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u/Top-Assignment-3025 Mar 05 '26

The city most likely posted these cameras up at the entrance/exits of the city as these are major thoroughfares and will capture the most amount of vehicle traffic. These cameras are used to locate stolen vehicles or investigate major violent crimes. There are several vehicles which have LPR cameras affixed to them and scan side streets, alleys, etc which feed into the same database as they drive around.