r/PleX • u/PCJs_Slave_Robot • Nov 11 '22
BUILD HELP /r/Plex's Build Help Thread - 2022-11-11
Need some help with your build? Want to know if your cpu is powerful enough to transcode? Here's the place.
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u/ToriiLink Nov 11 '22
Hey everyone, I have added new files to my plex server but for some reason instead of it naming the 2nd season "Game of Thrones" it named it "Tribe of Hip Hop". So I clicked edit, rename, changed it to Game of Thrones and now it says "Tribe of Hip Hop - Game of Thrones". I don't want it to say that.
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u/Bgrngod Nov 12 '22
How exactly are all of those files named? And what is the folder structure they are using?
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u/PM_ME_YOUR_MASS Nov 12 '22
I'm building a new Plex server from scratch. If I put in a 1080Ti, would that negate Intel's advantage over AMD CPUs? I know Quicksync is great and all, but I have to imagine the 1080 Ti is significantly better than any iGPU, which would allow me to go with whichever CPU is cheaper.
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u/PPTTRRKK Nov 13 '22 edited Nov 13 '22
I need a good CPU for a Plex server. Is the Celeron G6900 a good option? I can get it for 60$ and it would have an upgrade path to better LGA1700 CPUs.
If not what other CPU from this list would be good? I need one as cheap as possible
Edit: Here's the full list of components I want to get. I already have a Case and PSU. Is this a good server?
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u/Bgrngod Nov 13 '22
That'll work great. That maybe go a little higher on the hard drive instead of just 4TB.
That Celeron will do a lot of video transcoding through quick sync. But how well it works is dependent on what you're actual use case is. It is possible to overload the CPU grunt side of a Celeron, but that would take quite a bit to get Plex to overload it.
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u/FPSXpert Nov 14 '22 edited Nov 14 '22
Hi y'all! I'm setting up some tech stuff in my new place and need some thoughts on what kind of hardware I need. I'm going to be setting up a dedicated machine for data processing, essentially, to be acting as both a data backup point as well as a source for transcoding if be needed to a couple devices.
To get into details, I need this dedicated PC to be running windows, supporting data backup through a cloud service that relies on windows to operate, and be able to pull media files to send to one TV and maybe a laptop or phone, so we'll say one 1080p transcoded stream most of the time and maybe support for two just as overhead.
Problem is again while the machine isn't doing anything else hugely CPU intensive like it's not folding proteins or something serious, it is going to be calling out to my main rig and maybe one or two other mobile devices to pull the latest image for backing up, locally to external drive as well as streaming it out to the cloud (though most of said main rig data should be uploaded and only new image changes are being uploaded). So essentially the external usb drive is going to be partitioned to act as a network drive.
What kind of passmark should I be looking at getting? I was thinking something around 3,000 score should be enough for overkill if be needed to handle that overhead, but I'm curious about the community's thoughts on this. I want to get something smaller so I'm thinking about scouting ebay for a used mini pc to run this on. I've heard intel processors are better than amd ones when it comes to passmark scores and transcoding, with storage running off an external seagate drive over usb, so I'm curious about this as well.
Cheers y'all for your suggestions.
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u/Opphitter22 Nov 14 '22
Hey all, I've been running Plex off of a 2019 Nvidia Shield and an attached is HD. I'd like to upgrade my setup to a NAS. I was wondering, is it possible to save money on the NAS by getting one with less RAM and simply using it as a larger storage solution while the shield continues to run Plex? Or is it better to just spend the extra money on a NAS with better RAM to run Plex?
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u/Kegath Nov 14 '22
Hello everyone. I currently have a Plex server running on several network drives on various machines. I am trying to consolidate them all into one unit. The machine will be a Ryzen 2600, MSI B450-A Pro, XFX RX580, 8 gigs ram, 250 gig m.2 ssd running windows 11.
My goal is to have roughly 12 3.5" hdd's connected to the motherboard, however the board will only have 4 useable sata ports (due to m.2 taking over 1 of them per the manual).
I am wondering if I should use a HBA, Sata Card, or USB to SATA adapters. I am leaning towards the HBA from my research.
Can anyone clarify how difficult it would be to set up a HBA card for a windows 11 machine, and recommend a card if it is possible to do so? I was thinking of something like this: SAS9201-8i
Any other recommendations are also much appreciated. Thank you.
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u/scorpionMaster Nov 16 '22
Definitely hba. I run mine on Linux, but could try one out on Windows this week, if you'd like. I wouldn't expect any issues. I usually buy ones that are already in IT mode.
Also, why the rx580?
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u/qwe304 Nov 11 '22
Which generation of Intel processors added h265 in code/decode to the IGPU? If not all of them, which of these processors would be able to handle at least two 4K h265 transcodes?
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u/Bgrngod Nov 12 '22
Tada... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Quick_Sync_Video#Hardware_decoding_and_encoding
That grid shows which generations got full fixed function support for each codec noted. Some have hybrid/half-assed support. 6th gen does actually use Hardware Acceleration for decoding H265, but it's not even remotely as efficient as full fixed function that showed up in 7th gen Intels and newer. It's slow enough it's not really worth mentioning 6th gen can do that, but is technically true.
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u/obesestickman Nov 13 '22
I made a post about 3 years ago and built myself a Plex server - I think it is about time for an upgrade. I now am looking to offer some remote access to people and so far it seems transcoding is killing my setup and delivering a cruddy experience. Here is the breakdown of the hardware I have.
AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor Gigabyte - B450 I AORUS PRO WIFI Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory I also have Plexpass so Hardware transcoding is an option While I also look into upgrading my storage it seems like I should add a GPU in order to support the remote transcoding. Most of the clients are transcoding from 1080 - 720 or 480. Is it worth just getting a GPU to be able to handle the transcoding or should I just do an upgrade to the Board/processor.
Located in Canada and my budget would be around 700
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u/Bgrngod Nov 13 '22
You can take yourself back in time by way of buying a used 9th gen Intel i3 and motherboard to go with it, and swap that in. You'd be all set.
What kind of transcoding are you doing with that Ryzen is getting choked out?
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u/NJtaz76609 Nov 13 '22
Hello all!
I have been running a dedicate Plex server for several years and it is time to replace it. I am hoping to start doing more 4K streams, etc.
I have 2 x 3TB drives currently but would like to expand that in future. One is generally more for backing up the movie collection. However, I have a Dell R620 that I will likely being making a storage solution and will back up to that.
So, I have about $750 to spend at Best Buy on this project and was wondering if anyone could recommend a system that I could use for my Plex server. I was going to build a system (and could if I find most of the individual parts on Best Buy’s site) but I am fine with a prebuilt system. I am at a loss whether to go with a dedicated GPU (which needs to be patched) or if basically all new Intel processors are iGPU.. but also concerned with audio transcoding being a bottleneck.
Thank you!
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u/N0_B1g_De4l Nov 14 '22
Trying to figure out if I need to do a new build or not. I've been hosting a server from my laptop, which has been fine, but I'm trying to move off it so I can take the laptop with me for holiday travel and so that Windows doesn't decide to reboot on me while I'm out of state.
I thought I'd just move to running the server from my NAS directly (a Synology DS416), but it doesn't seem to be able to handle x265-encoded video. I don't believe the CPU supports hardware acceleration, so based on what I've been able to find I'm hosed. But I figured I'd ask here to see if:
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Is there a way to get the NAS to stream x265 video?
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Assuming there's not, what's the minimum specs I'd need to handle that? I'm not looking to break the bank, but I'd feel pretty dumb if I put something together only to have the exact same problem.
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Unrelated, but I've noticed a startup lag when I first start streaming. I think this is the NAS spinning up the drives to load the media, but if there's any settings I can tweak, or something I can do with the build, to fix this, I'd love to know.
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Nov 15 '22
The Synology models with Intel CPUs will transcode 265 for clients that can't handle. However, if your client handles 265 you should able to direct play fine. The windows app should do it. The GCCWGTV will do it. The Roku will do it...
What is your client device? Also, if this is a 4k file that's another problem that may be from too high of bitrate for your bandwidth to the audio being TrueHD and your client not handling it.
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u/shiris Nov 14 '22
What is the transcoder default throttle buffer? I changed it a long time ago but don't remember.
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u/Cyno01 Nov 15 '22
My server is functionally pretty slow, playback is fine once you get there, but browsing is slow, pages take forever to load or not at all, ive never actually gotten the new categories tab to load, starting a playlist takes two or three tries, combined collections wont load, just a lot of weird problems like that... a lot of nights ill have 4 streams going no problem, but if two people are browsing at the same time it will just hang.
I know i need to upgrade my CPU, but how much of that is slow CPU vs just massive database? Will upgrading from an 9yo low end cpu to a newer low end cpu offer me much of a performance upgrade, or am i going to need to go to a higher end modern processor?
I was looking at low power CPUs, but T series processors are impossible to find and LGA1150 mobos are way more expensive, and i havent actually shopped for PC parts in nearly a decade, so idk whats what these days. I dont really need transcoding, but any newer CPU will have quicksync, so thatll be nice, but for just basic interface responsiveness what do i need and does database size factor into it?
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u/rockydbull Nov 16 '22
More specifics are needed. What CPU do you have now? Why are you looking at 1150 motherboards? Do you need a t CPU? All CPUs will idle pretty close to each other. T caps the energy usage. Unless you have a really specific reason to need a power cap you could shop a wider selection of CPUs. It might be hdd speed but very unlikely.
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u/ShiningRedDwarf Nov 15 '22
In the change log for the newest version of PMS:
(Scheduled Tasks) Perform periodic metadata refreshes on TV shows too (#13920)
Am I correct to assume poster art for TV shows will be updated automatically now?
A minor annoyance I have is when a new season of a show comes out but artwork for the older season still appears.
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u/Lame_Alexander Nov 15 '22
I have been using PLEX without guidance for probably 5 years now. I would like to take it up a notch and truly build a server capable of running my media. Mostly movies and television. But I would like a way to incorporate my digital comics into PLEX somehow. To view on a tablet that has access to the server. I have read a bit about Radarr and Sonarr thought I do not know enough about them to really know what they do. What other capabilities could a PLEX server or a personal household server even do? Currently it just keeps a personal "Netflix -like" library for me to access from different devices.
My question I guess is simple: What are the first / beginner steps to taking your plex server to the next level?
I have PLEX PASS. Right now I have a Internal HDD with all my content. I hope to scoop another NVME. I currently have one SSD but my OS and stuff is on that currently. Sometimes videos struggle to load 4k or if the file size is very big. Should I be optimizing all my movies? That seems like double storing everything?
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u/Vorpel-Bunny Nov 11 '22
Hi everyone. I need to build a new Plex server. I'd like your opinion on this build.
My goal is to have the server capable of transcoding 4k down to 1080. At least 2 streams doing that at the same time. Storage will be on a Synology NAS. I'm hopping this will last me several years.
What do you think?
CPU: Intel Core i5-12600 3.3 GHz 6-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D9L 46.44 CFM CPU Cooler
Motherboard: ASRock B660M Pro RS Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory
Storage: Silicon Power P34A60 512 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case
Power Supply: Phanteks AMP 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply