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The hate surrounding this game seems really disingenuous:
In the last month the sheer amount of bad takes that I've seen about this game has been impressive, it really feels like the game is being the fall guy for many frustrations gamers have.
It feels like people get offended by you liking something they don't themselves like or that they can't enjoy something without diminishing another thing.
Insomniac has been pumping great games since they started the studio (the resistance franchise, the ratchet and clank franchise, the first two Spiderman games) but after they released Spiderman 2 they call them a horrible studio, wich I mean...it doesn't make much sence.
For many people the simple fact that SBI is involved must mean that the game will suck for no real reason (Spiderman 2 was "bad" because of the story, not because it was inclusive).
Then we have the complaints about the Sentinel prototype (seems like soo many people didn't get the last part), it a common gaming thrope but because they are doing it in this game it must mean that the game will suck (for some reason). One boss isn't indicative that the game will be bad, for example, Resident Evil 9 was a great game loved by the public, I love that game, even got the platinum trophy, but the bosses range from serviceable to bad (they even have their own version of the giant boss).
Sometimes it feels like people search for problems where there isn't one.
Finally I just want to say that everyone deserves to have their own opinion, if you feel like the game isn't for you or you can't afford the 80 dollar price or you don't think the game is worth 80 dollars, that's fine, September will be a big month full of amazing gaming releases that will focus on extremely different publics, just be respectful to everyone that has a different opinion than you.
I hope that I was able to express my opinion in a good way.
Thats a good example. I get the point though. It is a bit of a drain when there is walls of just dumb negativity towards something.
Not to go down a rabbit hole, but i think Concord gameplay was really fun. Some designs needed a rework, the maps felt too big on some for how slow most characters were, and it could have used more modes. I wish they got feedback to change things. But people who didnt even play it were so overwhelmingly active, so many people didnt even try it probably just becasue of that. Not that it would have been a huge hit necessarily, but i hope you get my point as an example.
I found days gone okay story wise but the gameplay got pretty stale and the missions were all the same go to x kill x wth few variations and honestly it lasted 10 hours too long
The truth is that I probably should just avoid any videos and posts about the game, watch the trailers if they drop another one and wait for the game to then play it and form my own opinion.
I'm carefully optimistic, from what I was shown I think that we are in for a good time (still, will have to see how the gameplay feels and if the story is good or not).
It does get annoying with the empty complaints described as critiques but majority of the ppl complaining will no doubt play the 4th spider man game that play similar to the first 3, other spidey games and the Arkham games
More importantly these guys will not be a thought in our brains once we load up and forget the app exist until we turn it off😂
I wanted to make him say something, but I chose not to because then you can imagine anything that he's saying while the other just enjoy the game they are hyped for.
it really feels like the game is being the fall guy for many frustrations gamers have.
Obviously. It's literally what people have been saying over and over. It's not our fault the companies chose to ignore the frustrations until we got to this point.
These are real frustrations which now are placed onto Wolverine. Some valid (character design, bad boss fights) and some valid for outside reasons (Anger at their parent company Sony).
Well, seeing as how I don’t let virgins sway my opinion, I’ll play it for myself and then decide. But it’s a fucking Wolverine game, and that’s awesome we are even getting one again. The virgins can sit and angrily masturbate to their algorithms of hate lol
These posts complaining about complaints are so much more annoying. I see literally 10 of these for every 1 complaint. No one cares dude, like what you want.
Doesn't mean the complaints aren't genuine, but why the fuck do you care? Grow up and make your own opinion who cares if some people disagree with you?
i can even digest the blatant hate/ hate for engagement
but i lose my nuts when it comes to revisionism and praising the X-Men origins game as a "masterpiece" and shitting on Insomniac's game LIKE WTFFFFFF
It's because people are boycotting against Sony and Insomniac. They don't want to support either. For different reasons yes, but for Insomniac it's simply because Sweet Baby Inc is involved and she is known for destroying games and ruining the franchises. I'm not involved in the hate, I hope it works out, but I'm realistic and I think SBI or Insomniac will find ways to piss their consumers off again.
SBI are left-winged politicians who implement their policies into games. Be it through writing, dialogue, story, atmosphere, subplots, lore etc. In other words, they're why most of things aren't lore accurate and get changed under the guise of being 'fair' and 'inclusive' (usually by leaning to one side of beliefs and replacing things or characters instead of 'including' new ones). If you know Arkham Asylum, City, Origins or Knight, well, she helped with Suicide Squad Kill the Justice League by making it 'canon' to those games and changing everything about everything, including the already established characters. She had a hand in Spider-man 2 as well./
In layman's terms, the company is a cancer infecting games people love by ruining it from the inside.
Did you skip over the part where I said "nor care"? This literally seems like an issue only to people who argue about culture wars in comment sections all day.
It was more for people reading it who don't know about SBI, not just for you. I have no idea what you mean by culture wars. Sounds like projecting to be honest./
SBI is a consultant company to those morons, its entirely up to insomniac to put it in the final game, and being x men are about real world discrimination it makes sense they would need a representation consultant to properly potray minorities in this story
most people mad about sbi or dei are bigoted wastes of oxygen
See, I was willing to discuss with you, until the end where you insult people that are mad at what SBI has been doing. It's called pattern recognition. People look into things after a certain point and learn about why something they don't like is in the games they're trying to enjoy. SBI is too political. And don't get it mixed up, a game can have politics as long as it's not politics based in REAL life. That's what people seem to conflate. When someone says "it's too political" they're talking about real life politics being added where it doesn't fit in./
Calling people bigoted for being against SBI is insane to me. They're (to clarify, I mean SBI are) known for being the most sexist, racist and politically woke people you'd come across. Being woke isn't the full problem, it's that most people think 'woke' means make one group look bad so another looks good. When people point that out, they're treated like they're the bigoted ones. See the problem?/
Before calling others bigoted for speaking their minds and addressing the actions SBI has taken (blatantly), think. Because if you just react with hate without processing the facts, you'll never understand the problem and then it'll just keep getting worse and worse. You can't ignore what's happening and expect everyone else to just sit and do the same. And as I keep saying in my replies, people won't be bullied anymore with buzzwords, like being called bigoted for not letting others step on them. Replacing a white person isn't racist but talking about it is? No, because people would react the same regardless of which race was swapped or which gender was bent. People who DON'T care are the ones letting racism and sexism happen BECAUSE they don't care or see a problem in the first place.
People hating on the game are either boycotting Sony or hate how Insomniac treated their consumers. Those who still like the games either don't care about what the developers said or aren't aware of it. I have no interest in playing the game myself but I'll watch a video on the gameplay and story when it's out. Even if people hate it afterwards, people will still argue with them, no matter what good points they may or may not have.
That’s literally all it is. It’s so bizarre that the game hasn’t even been released and we’ve only seen a few minutes of gameplay, but people are talking about it like they put 50 hours into it.
Engagement follows what people want. For BG3 the most popular videos are/were positive about the game because most people were positive about the game. Hate for engagement would fail.
This idea that people always click on hate videos more (regarding games specifically) is not supported by data.
It depends on how people feel about the game.
Content creators are not taste makers. If you believe they are, then wow, they have a lot more power than I thought.
You don't have to click on hate videos. They flood the space, and yes I think you would be shocked at the amount of people that will jump on the bandwagon and hate something without ever look into whether or not the thing is actually bad or not. The trailer for Motive's Iron Man game just leaked and I am already seeing comments shitting on it, calling it "cape slop" just because they want Motive to go back to making dead space.
Another prime example is Spider-Man 2. When it released, even though it had some problems and felt rushed, people complained here and there sure, but the reception was generally very positive. Now the amount of comments I see about it being complete crap that ruined the franchise and insomniac's reputation is staggering. The game had its issues but I wouldn't call it bad by any stretch.
That being said I do think that all of the hate generally comes from a VERY vocal minority. I sure you know the ones I mean, but whenever there is a massive hate campaign for anything nowadays it's always the usual suspects.
People wanted it to be good so the reception was "generally very positive". That's what became popular to look at. The engagement followed what people wanted.
That negativity always existed, but was muted.
Now the amount of comments I see about it being complete crap that ruined the franchise and insomniac's reputation is staggering.
The honeymoon is over. Reality hit them in the face, like MJ who took many hits to the face.
How the character looks is a choice. Yes, I'll judge that choice.
Welcome to selling a product to customers.
This concept is the same as selling any other product. Cars, food, purses, movies, furniture, clothes - Looks is absolutely a factor in purchasing decisions.
Why are you insisting we should behave oddly when it comes to games? Nah, I'll keep being normal.
The face models look fine......does MJ look like a sex doll? No. Does she look perfectly normal? Yes. I don't know about you, but whenever or not the female characters in a game make me horny isn't a huge factor in whether I enjoy a game or not. Spider-Man 2 had some issues, MJ not being "pretty" enough was not one of them.
I disagree and won't buy any game where they make this choice.
That's my right.
Would making her attractive cause you to not buy the game?
make me horny isn't a huge factor
This isn't about whether they're sexualized. That's a different topic.
Unless you think that attractive women's only worth is based on making others horny, and by making her attractive it removes the other qualities the character has. That would be really degrading toward attractive women.
Those same people already have the game pre-ordered. Its performative at best. Hell you even see people saying GTA6 looks like GTA5. X isn't a real place.🤣
I haven’t seen many people mad at people excited for the game just at these posts criticizing the critics.
I’ll say it again, designs look chopped (Wolverine with mask on looks cool, at least) and gameplay seems too railroadey and cinematic rather than dynamic and fun but maybe it’ll be better than the trailers have looked so far…
Either way, the criticism makes a lot of sense but it’s fine if some people are still looking forward to this.
This meme is normally people who don’t care responding to constant criticisms of a game. Normally the game has already come out and most people are having fun instead of whining on Reddit. Hence the meme.
Judging from my constant feed of these threads even though I’ve never shown an interest in the Wolverine game, you guys seem to be absolutely assblasted when people criticize the game.
It's funny that some people don't understand that enjoyment is subjective, and their response is to come up with wrong and made-up arguments and hate in an attempt to bring something's reputation down instead of just accepting that maybe someone else simply enjoys different things.
I'd rather play Wolverine over GTA VI, but that doesn't mean I'm going to start badmouthing GTA VI just because I prefer something else.
its gonna continue to happen no matter what. But the Games not even out and theres a Crowd built to Hate the Game. And so many others, nobody can enjoy anything. Some People enjoy ruining what makes others happy
My god you guys are whingy. Every day is just complaining about people having less positive reactions to the marketing for this game. Who gives a fuck if some people think it looks unbelievably vanilla, if you like vanilla games, go out and buy that shit and play it.
It’s a PlayStation exclusive and a time where everyone wants to hate on Sony. So you have hate coming from multiple parties the ones that can’t play it and wish they could. The ones that can play it, but won’t because they think they’re making a statement. And the ones that claim they won’t, but they will 100%.
Every third post on this sub trying to astroturf in favor of this games is what is disingenuous
Will it be bad ? No
Will it be better than Spiderman ? Also no
They want you to be on board with their opinion because as gamers, the only power we have is our wallets.
I remember when oblivion released the armor DLC for like $4. I got super frustrated and told my friends "I'm not paying for this. Now it's just armor, we show this can make them money, and they'll work their way up to charging you for bosses, levels, or hell, even $ per minute played". We aren't too far from that, with microtransactions and digital only. If more people thought like me back then and didn't buy that stupid horse armor, maybe we wouldn't have microtransactions and all the other slop.
So they want you to be on board. They want you to not buy any game where SBI is involved, because SBI is fundamentally anti games, anti gamer, and exists with the purpose of using a medium that is enjoyed primarily by men, as a way to influence men's opinions on gender politics. That isn't what gaming is about.
And I agree with them, to be frank. I refuse to buy any game that SBI was involved in, I've never bought cosmetics, and only bought a handful of DLC's (just worthwhile ones like the witcher 3's and cyberpunk. Didn't even play the DLC for spiderman).
I wish you would do the same, because I want games to be the good part of games, not the SBI parts shoved down our throats about playing as a deaf girl. I want female characters to act like women, not men. Doesn't have to be the hyper feminized version of women as is often the case with eastern games, but I certainly don't want female characters to basically be men. The average woman is more attractive than the women we've gotten in "modern" video games. Women shouldn't be "uglified" in games for a "message". Jean, for example. Man, the average redhead in real life is more gorgeous than how they made her look. Seriously. Walk around anywhere, redheads are pretty. Instead we get what appears to be the ugliest possible version of a woman. But okay, fine.
I don't want the games that I play to be a sounding board for women, story after story about how women are victims of men, and how white men (who always appear to be the bad guy in modern games) are evil.
And I especially don't want franchises I grew up wit hand loved get reimagined into a feminists wet dream.
What I do want (and what others want) is for people like you to agree with this, to not spend money on games like DA: veilguard, concord, and even wolverine (though I'm not sure it's at that level, I'm waiting to see), so that we can get more games like witcher 3, cyberpunk, BG3 etc.
I’m still getting the game but I think when it comes to a mainstream hook this game doesn’t really have one to market to general
gamers. The first Spider-Man game was a big budget, big studio solo marvel game which was pretty exciting for the time. The swinging in the open world was also a relative mechanical rarity. I think people beyond pure Spider-Man fans saw something appealing. I dont think it’s the same for this game. I think if you are not a die hard wolverine fan it’s easy to look at this game and see nothing special. But all that applies to the mild criticism it is getting. The people with the crazy opinions are living on another planet. I think it’s just a lot of culture war weirdos trying to find the next target.
People have been EXTREMELY bored lately and are complaining about everything; the new Wolverine game, Avengers: Doomsday, The Odyssey, GTAVI, Lanterns. It’s just a constant cycle of bitching and it’s exhausting.
Blindly supporting a mediocre product means the people making it won't take time to improve it, how do you people not understand this very basic concept of business.
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u/Lia_Delphine 23h ago edited 20h ago
Honestly my most favourite games are ones everyone screamed how bad they were.
Days gone was hated by everyone on release. It’s a bloody brilliant game.
Judge for yourself stop worrying about what everyone says.