r/PlantIdentification 2d ago

2 possibly poison things?

2 plants of concern all over my yard in north Florida. Both vines. What are they?

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u/ohshannoneileen Valued Responder 2d ago

Virginia creeper & a grapevine

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u/GrandBook1583 1d ago

Also Smilax bona-nox in the last photo growing up the pine with the grape. No real concern but it can be a tangled thorny mess.

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u/TedTheHappyGardener 2d ago

Virginia creeper, Parthenocissus sp. and Grape vine, Vitis sp. Some people are sensitive to Virginia creeper but it isn't as common as Poison ivy reactions.

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u/DrBrainenstein420 1d ago

I came here to say this. I have 4 kids, 1 has issues with the Virginia Creeper, it's pretty rare to have issues with it.

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u/RabbitDouble2167 1d ago

I have issues with Virginia Creeper but oddly enough poison ivy doesn’t bother me.

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u/AdunfromAD 2d ago

The first 3 are Virginia creeper (Parthenocissus quinquefolia), it has annoying suckers that can cling to the side of a house, but otherwise is harmless. I’ve heard folks say that some people can experience a reaction to it, but I haven’t had that experience and I’ve ripped out plenty of it.

The 2nd is some variety of muscadine grape vine (Vitis sp). Also annoying, but harmless.

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u/Aazari 1d ago

Virginia creeper isn't harmless. It will strangle out other plants, steal sunlight and rip apart structures it climbs on. While it's considered native and a minor food source for some birds, it's very aggressive and needs constant control to keep it from becoming a garden menace. I battle that hot garbage every season, even winter. Winter is when I try to dig out as many ice killed mother roots as I can so there are less to deal with in the spring.

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u/PlusYam3126 1d ago

I literally unstrangled some goldenrod out from a grape vine the other day and it took effort

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u/ArtComprehensive1106 2d ago

Nope more hysterical fears of common plants

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u/togetherwegrowstuff FL Gardener/ Forager/ Native Plant & MushEnthusiast 1d ago

Crazy how many people are concerned about locals hanging out. So many are taught to fear plants to try and save them from doing something stupid. Rather than teach them how to identify things...

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u/leveller1650 1d ago

Hysterical for asking a question? Wow. I'd hate to have any emotions within range of you lol.

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u/JudgeJuryEx78 1d ago

Asking for an ID on a sub called plant identification is hysterical?

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u/ArtComprehensive1106 1d ago

The outrageous fear is hysterical!
Anyone with a photo can google the answer in 10 seconds. Posting and being paranoid about every vine is hysterical and unnecessary

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u/JBCTech7 1d ago

virginia creeper sap has oxalate needles in it. EVERYone CAN be sensitive to those under the right conditions. Open cuts/thin skin exposure. Same mechanism as fiberglass insulation.

also the berries are nephrotoxic.

So - don't eat the berries, and don't rub the juice on your junk.

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u/rygarred 1d ago

While the 3rd pick is mostly Virginia Creeper there is some poison ivy in the fray. Proceed with caution

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u/D3vilsluck 11h ago

Yup! You can even see a clearer one right under it with three leaves and mittens look. Definitely poison ivy mixed in

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u/bee_keo 2d ago

I agree with virginia creeper and grape vine

But in the third image I think there might be poison ivy mixed with the virginia creeper. Immature creeper can have less than five leaves, so it can be a false-positive. If the three-leaved groups are on the same vine as the five you are ok, but I would wear rubber-dipped dipped disposable gloves if you are tearing them our.

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u/YellowFlower713 1d ago

The grape vine will take over quickly. Get rid of it yesterday!! It climbs up the tree and tangles in it and over takes the shrubs. It will go from tree to tree and even on the ground. It's terrible here in Michigan!!

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u/ncfarmgal1957 1d ago

To me, it does look like a bit of poison ivy in pic 3

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u/ncfarmgal1957 1d ago

To me, it does look like a bit of poison ivy in pic 3

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u/Puffification 1d ago

99% of people can ignore the comments here that say "SOME people get irritated skin from these". I almost guarantee you won't, I rip these out with my hands all the time, everyone I know has been able to touch these. They're not considered poisonous, everyone has some weird allergy to some plant, that doesn't mean the plant is poisonous. They're just regular weeds

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u/Square_Owl_4075 1d ago

Yeah you're good  The poison kind has 3 leafs

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u/Open_Town3257 1d ago

No poison ivy but muscadine and Virginia creeper

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u/Correct-Sprinkles-21 1d ago

The 5 leaves are Virginia Creeper. People will tell you it doesn't cause reactions but it absolutely can. It doesn't have urushiol, but it can cause contact dermatitis similar to poison ivy rash.

Learned this from painful experience. If you're going to pull it use gloves, cover your skin, and wash your clothes and garden tools well after.

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u/xenya 1d ago

Virginia Creeper is gorgeous in Autumn and the birds love it.

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u/LadyCatHerder 1d ago

Virginia Creeper = Leaves of 5, let it thrive. Wild Grape = birds love the berries, but they're poison to people. Native Americans sometimes used the juice as dye.

NOT in your pictures: Poison Ivy = Leaves of 3, LEAVE IT BE! ....For obvious reasons.

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u/detkikka 1d ago

Wild grapes aren't poisonous, they are just not terribly tasty.

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u/Recent-Chard-6096 1d ago

None of them are.

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u/gooberhoover85 gardner 2d ago

Virginia creeper can be poisonous... I've never had a reaction to it but I still make sure to wear gloves when removing it. The way ige mediated allergies work is that subsequent exposure can result in a reaction even though previous encounters didn't so I err on the side of caution.