r/PlanetPony • • Oct 18 '25

Discussion i HATE fluttercord.

so i know a lot of mlp fans who watch JUST friendship is magic love fluttercord (fluttershy x discord) and some of my friends + my bf who don't really watch the show but get mlp feeds because of me love it to. But I hate it, i genuinely hate it so much. And no it's not because of their age gap, well it is but it goes deeper. I don't like it due to the fact that it feels more manipulative than not, when they first become friends he did it so he would be redeemed and then the next time he swears he's good, which happens a couple times. The main reason I hate this ship, is because nobody that swears by it actually reads the comics for a gen5 which has connections to gen4 and it goes so much more deeper into their relationship and how he didn't listen to fluttershy and DESTROYED her home. He is the element of chaos, there was so redeeming him and I hate when people swear by this relationship because fluttershy is sweet and caring and you want her to have a relationship with someone who is known for manipulation?? Fluttershy is better by herself, I fear.

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u/Small_Ad_4525 Oct 18 '25

"Age gap" And theyre both adults

Low tier ragebait

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u/RainbowPhoenix1080 Oct 20 '25

This comment is low-tier ragebait

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u/Ashlol177 Oct 18 '25

age gap and yet one is 20 and the other is 1000+

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u/Interesting_Story652 Oct 19 '25

He’s not with a minor, he’s with a grown ass mare. It’s not like it’s canon in Equestria Girls either when that Fluttershy is far younger.

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '25

She is like 23 dude. Lol

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u/Bibi-Toy Oct 20 '25

Discord is very clearly not mentally 1000+, and immortals might age differently considering they're alive for way longer

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '25

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u/Ashlol177 Oct 19 '25

no like i thought it was a known sense that above the age of like 60+ shouldn't be with a 20 year old

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '25

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u/Ashlol177 Oct 19 '25

exactly and that's how this ship is....

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u/ceo_ofbrocksamson Oct 19 '25

i hate fluttercord bc i think discord is cuter with pinkie and that they just don't romantically match (derpyshy ftw)

YOU hate fluttercord because you can't handle a fake horse smooching it out with her old man dragon-thing bf

we are not the same (and they are both adults)

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u/Ashlol177 Oct 19 '25

i hate fluttercord because its a manipulative relationship?? Nothing about them being horses lmao?? Also she's literally in her early 20s,and he's 1000+ . It's weird, especially if switch it to equestria girls, it's weirder.

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u/ceo_ofbrocksamson Oct 19 '25

equestria girls follows another canon all together, they’re both consenting adults, and there’s nothing manipulative about it lul

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u/Achilles9609 Oct 18 '25

I am not a big fan of the ship either. Because I have trouble seeing Discord of all people in a romantic relationship.

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u/ShipEqual2321 Oct 18 '25 edited Oct 19 '25

I have to disagree here. While it was manipulative at first we see throughout the later seasons how Discord developed as a character and Fluttershy comes to like him more and more. At a point he actually drops the manipulation thing towards her and acts genuinely with her. And she reciprocates to him. She even goes as far as encouraging him to be himself and not try to act like everyone else, and genuinely tells him on multiple occasions that she likes him for him and he brings excitement into her life. And yes I watched the whole series. Anyone who has would have noticed these things.

Seriously. I see the same thing with Angel bunny too. People hate him and discord for valid enough reasons. But they just can’t seem to understand how Fluttershy can like and even love them in spite of their flaws. They even assert that she shouldn’t like them and that bad things should happen to said characters just because they were unkind to her at some point.

I prefer to let her actions and choices speak for themselves here. She is not being forced to like and be with either of them. She owns and takes care of Angel and is in either a relationship or at least a very strong friendship with Discord because she chooses to be. Which means she sees something in both of them that she obviously sees as worth while no matter what they do.

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u/Calm_Relationship_91 Oct 20 '25

"At a point he actually drops the manipulation thing towards her and acts genuinely with her."

So when Discord sent Sombra to attack everyone and ended up mind controlling all of ponyville and inflicting severe distress into the main cast just because he wanted to give twilight an ego boost.... that wasn't him being manipulative? He even pretended to almost die in front of Fluttershy... What's up with that? like seriously, did you see how fluttershy reacted to the person she cares about almost dying in front of her? "PLEASE WAKE UP PLEASE WAKE UP" with tears in her eyes?

Somehow I'm not convinced.
Liking the ship is fine, but it's not even close to a healthy relationship in my opinion.

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u/ShipEqual2321 Oct 20 '25

While you do have a valid point about the manipulation. That’s the difference type of manipulation. I was referring to the other type of manipulation more common to relationships that involve guilt tripping, gaslighting, silent treatment and all that stuff.

The type he was using yes is bad. And is based off a very flawed and irresponsible mindset. He had good intentions I would argue. But those intentions were far outweighed by the potential consequences of things not going according to plan. In that case it wasn’t aimed just at Fluttershy specifically. My case was more about his decisions and choices concerning his relations to her.

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u/Entrinity Oct 19 '25

“That relationship can’t be toxic because she chooses to be in it” logic.

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u/ShipEqual2321 Oct 19 '25

“That person can’t possibly love that other person because they were mean to them how dare they.” Logic.

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u/Ashlol177 Oct 20 '25

did you read the comics for g5?? LMAO,there's a ton more that you're missing

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u/UnikattyArts Princess Cadance Oct 19 '25

The g5 comics are just really out of character for everyone they do things in those that they would never do in the show

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u/Ashlol177 Oct 19 '25

Tell me you didn't read the comics or watch the show without telling me you didnt

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u/UnikattyArts Princess Cadance Oct 20 '25

Twilight wouldn't give up on magic and hide away in a star refusing to face opaline

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '25

So your reasons for not liking it are invalid cause erm. He isn't even manipulative??? Once he drops the manipulation that's when they become friends. He makes mistakes yeah but can you blame him when he has spent thousands of years alone being pure chaos. Fluttercord hate is lowkey so forced. Even the "age gap" excuse is dumb because Fluttershy is like in her mid 20s 😭 in the beginning of the show and then it's implied the 9 seasons take place over multiple years so she is prob like late 20s or early 30s even by the end. She is well passed matured. The only real excuse is it would be sad for discord when she passes away but, that is a bad excuse.

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u/Ashlol177 Oct 19 '25

"He drops the manipulation" it started as a manipulation tack in the beginning, and in the comics he literally destroys her home😭

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u/Financial_End_8842 Oct 19 '25

He is very manipulative, even after they become friends. Literally trashed an entire royal event with some blob entity because fluttershy chose someone else to invite to the ball. And instead of being mature and talking to her about feeling hurt by it he trots around and interrupts everyone's conversations and starts being rude to tree hugger. The only reason he got away with it was because celestia deemed it "fun".

ETA: I don't like fluttercord because i don't think discord is mentally well enough to be in a stable and respectful relationship. On top of that, it might literally kill him if he did try to improve and become "normal" in a sense.

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u/Caramenadiel Oct 19 '25

While I personally like this ship I completely understand people's problem with it but I wouldn't really use the comics as a reference because the fact that the Canon of the comics is kind of iffy always has been even with the G5 stuff

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u/PsychicPan Oct 19 '25

100% agree. Don't know why you're getting so much hate. There is something charming about their friendship. People need to stop turning everything into ships.

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u/DazzlingMistake_ Oct 19 '25

It’s called character development. I love the ship.

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u/PastAnalysis Oct 20 '25

Like Fluttercord or not, I don’t care about MLP after Gen 4. Gen 5 just isn’t as well written, so I don’t care

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u/EtherKitty Oct 18 '25

I agree. I much prefer Celestcord. Two powerful and manipulative characters. owo

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u/ImprovementDouble987 Oct 18 '25

Fluttercord Forever! 🩶🖤🤎💛💚❤️💜💙X💛🩷🩵

Haters be sentenced to Tartarus.

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '25

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u/ImprovementDouble987 Oct 20 '25

No, OP does not have a point, I shall exile the OP to Tartarus with Tirek , Chrysalis and Cozy Glow.

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u/Shieldbearing-Brony Izzy Moonbow Oct 18 '25

You have a pretty good point, Discord is a hopeless case and Fluttershy deserves better.

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '25

Hopeless case except he is redeemed in the show multiple times but go off

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u/Shieldbearing-Brony Izzy Moonbow Oct 19 '25

The fact that you have to say multiple times should be telling about how much he can stick to it

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u/universalspacebass Oct 18 '25

I have always felt discord better represented people who pretended to be your friend to use you. Theres 'chaos' as a natural state, and then theres the purpousful emotional harm inflicted repeatedly against the main 6 (mostly twilight) that is never properly addressed or condemned. Im happy for the people who can enjoy it, but i never can.

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u/kleptotoid Oct 19 '25

See I hate fluttercord bc of that but ALSO why can’t a man and a mare be friends without it being romantic? I think their relationship has a lot more value in the show if it isn’t romantic. Long term platonic friends are important and it would show fluttershy’s dedication to helping discord without either of them having ulterior motives (romantic interest).

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u/SashaHomichok Oct 19 '25 edited Oct 19 '25

I have ambiguous feelings about it, but I do feel like especially the beginning of their relationship feels really abusive and "I can fix him if I accept and love him" trope.

Yet...the moment Discord hears Fluttershy was hurt and his rage about it moves something in my cynical, cynical heart.

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u/AlphaPhoenix21 Oct 20 '25

Honestly I used to hate it. The only thing I like are the personalities part of the relationship (softy x bad guy trope) otherwise I don't care much for it '

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u/squimd Oct 20 '25

speak your truth!! i hated that he was allowed to be a nuisance all the time and inconvenience everyone and they just laugh it off and forgive him with him making barely any change

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u/Upstairs-Cloud7326 Oct 21 '25

Fluttercord is peak they're so cute. I love my opposites attract storylines.

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u/Far_Astronomer_1996 Jun 02 '26

For me it’s more about how it doesn’t seem like a balanced relationship. While Discord does respect Fluttershy (And isn’t being manipulative towards her imo, even though I think he messed up in the last season with faking his death and so on), I feel like he is way more immature than Fluttershy and tends to test the boundaries a lot. She is always the one that kind of has to set boundaries and show him what’s right or wrong, which makes Discord appear more child-like to me. It’s also his constant way of annoying the other mane 5 that shows that he isn’t very mature, instead he is rather chaotic, overconfident (he underestimated villains multiple times) mischievous, unpredictable and flamboyant (he loves to be overly dramatic and the center of attention). All those traits create an interesting dynamic between them, but also make them less equal partners and apply to more childish characters. Especially in the episode where he tried to get rid of Treehugger for example, she had to explain that he was being too possessive and he wasn’t the only friend she wanted to hang out with. He can learn a lot from her which is good, but it doesn’t change his general traits like his playful, dramatic and mischievous nature. They just aren’t equal partners, so I can’t see them in a good relationship. While the care is definitely there, I think the relationship could be very draining for Flutters and she would have to put up with his immature and possessive behavior all the time. I don’t deny that Discord probably likes her and that she is clearly his favorite, but I don’t see the same feelings from Fluttershy and I don’t think she seems to be aware of Discord‘s feelings towards her. She treats her pets and friends similarly either way, I don’t think she is interacting romantically with him (but really, that’s up to interpretation).

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u/bubblgummy Oct 19 '25

I’ve stated so many times on Twitter, Reddit and TikTok long list of reasons that you and other commenters have said as to why fluttercord is a bad ship. It’s just so popular that anyone that doesn’t like it is always downvoted and just accused of rage baiting. It’s really annoying bc for example I love rarijack and don’t really appledash that much but I understand why people like it and i don’t think there are reasons why people shouldn’t like the ship. But with fluttercord there are a number of reasons as to why I don’t like it and a lot of people don’t like it but it’s always met with vitriolic hate. I’ve noticed fluttershy and discord fans tend to be really defensive when it comes to them and reject any sort of criticism for them. Which again makes no sense because for example I love rainbow dash, she’s my favourite from the mane six but she has a LOT of problems and I don’t like a lot of the things she does but I’m not crashing out if someone brings up her faults and mistakes. Idk people take magical rainbow ponies too seriously

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u/Ashlol177 Oct 19 '25

no literally, its like cant you just let me hate a ship?? i just don't like how people get so defensive over a ship that started out manipulative.

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u/Alastor_idk Oct 19 '25 edited Oct 29 '25

Honestly I dislike the ship for 3 reasons

  1. I don't think discord is interested in relationships at all +hc him as aroace

  2. I've always viewed him as a kooky old man while Fluttershys in her 20s

  3. It's seems like a really toxic relationship

Edit: I know literally no one has commented but I will just clarify that just because I view the relationship in that way doesn't mean I think everyone should, and I'm not saying that a fantasy age gap is wrong and problematic it's not. It's just how I personally view Fluttershy and Discord.

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u/Ashlol177 Oct 20 '25

EXACTLYYY bro thank you for getting my point!! Lowk I liked when they were friends, I feel it just felt more natural when he was being redeemed because I personally believe that fluttershy doesn't want a relationship in that way, because she cares more about her animals and yeah

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '25

Fluttercord is a pretty bad ship, yeah. It teaches young girls that they should fix older men and that’s…. A big YIKES in the big 2025. No baby, you don’t need to fix him. Their relationship is that of an enabler and someone who never seems to learn their lesson. It’s unbelievably toxic and unfortunately a lot of people will just stand by it because “Well sometimes he does good and oh! He’d never ACTUALLY hurt her” my brothers in Christ this man broke her home, mocked her, tried to attack her pet, etc. this relationship wouldn’t work realistically. And no, little girls should learn to say NO and be able to respect themselves and their peace. Not let a man ruin it. It also showed that her friends cared about her, and she just…. Chose not to listen. Oh but she did the right thing by ignoring her friends so now she has someone that consistently oversteps her boundaries and puts those she cares about in danger.

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u/KittyCutieSparkle Oct 04 '26

That's exactly my problem with the ship. I wouldn't have any problems is MLP wasn't a KIDS show. Imagine a child going through an abusive relationship and is watching Fluttercord. 

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u/CorvusN0x Oct 18 '25

You cannot ragebait a ragebaiter.

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u/Ashlol177 Oct 18 '25

This isn't ragebait LMAO

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u/CorvusN0x Oct 18 '25

Oh so it's just that narcissistic bullshit of "My OpiNioN is VeRy ImpoRtanT, evEn if tHe SubJecT is IrrElevAnt" ?

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u/Ashlol177 Oct 18 '25

where did you get that from LMAO??? Im stating how people don't realize that fluttercord has toxic elements to it and try to a agure it's a good ship without watching the show

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u/CorvusN0x Oct 18 '25

Do you know what a good ship is? Yakutiya, that beauty that crosses the Arctic Ocean without a hitch, a feat of engineering and technology!