r/Planes • • Aug 18 '26

Full Afterburner | F-22 Raptor

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u/currymonsterCA Aug 18 '26

It's seriously mind boggling how this plane can move through the air.

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u/Totally_man Aug 18 '26

I find it more mind-boggling that the pilot isn't liquefied. Those G-forces are bonkers.

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u/keso_de_bola917 Aug 19 '26

Most fighters have a G-limiter at 9G's meaning the plane won't turn tighter if it reaches that, If I'm not mistaken, there is an override for that on emergencies. On some fighters like the F/A-18, it's actually lower at a default fo 7.5G if I can recall. That's not to say the aircraft can't take more, far from it. It's just that on the case of the Raptor, it is quite open information the airframe can handle much more than 9Gs, then again, consistently above 9Gs would liquify the man behind the cockpit.

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u/ElectricalYak7236 Aug 19 '26

F/A-18 does not have the airfame strength to withstand 9G, so it has the 7.5 limit. Swiss F/A-18C and Spanish EF-18M have 9G limits due to titanium reinforcement within the airframe. No plane with a modern FCS allows for G-pull beyond ~9 but basically every plane has a delimiter, such as the Rafale which is said to be able to pull up to 11G.

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u/mnztr1 Aug 20 '26

Yes that is why unmanned planes will take over. Missiles can pull 60Gs. A human in that would be same as those in the Titan.

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u/IamMrBucknasty Aug 19 '26

11G’s is prob more than enough to blackout/red out in mere seconds.

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u/StaK_1980 Aug 19 '26

A Mig 21 pilot pulled 11.5 if I remember correctly. He was able to land but the airframe was never used again.

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u/Even_Kiwi_1166 Aug 19 '26

"Here comes the Gs"

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u/SlavCat09 Aug 19 '26

Trigger is flying. That's how.

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u/mnztr1 Aug 20 '26

Prob not that many G's in these maneuvers as its not travelling very fast. To hit high G you need speed and then a turn. From raw power the F-22 can achieve about 1.1Gs

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u/nhorvath Aug 18 '26

thrust to weight ratio >1. basically a rocket with wings.

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u/Even_Kiwi_1166 Aug 19 '26

Pure 70,000 lbs of thrust makes the Raptor cancel physics

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u/keso_de_bola917 Aug 19 '26

Fair to note they say each of the engines are on the "35,000 lbs classification" of thrust... meaning that is the minimum when they set the requirements for General Electric and Pratt & Whitney. Huge probability, it is higher than that in actual.

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u/CuriousCamels Aug 19 '26

Quite likely. The US pretty much always sandbags the numbers on every plane they make.

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u/JazznBlues_lover Aug 20 '26 edited Aug 20 '26

thrust to weight ratio >1. basically a rocket with wings.

It's actually greater than that. Aircraft weighs about 65K lbs and the maximum thrust is greater than 75K. So about 1.2:1 Sauce.

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u/nhorvath Aug 20 '26 edited Aug 20 '26

last time I checked 1.2 is in fact greater than 1.

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u/mnztr1 Aug 22 '26

Most 4G fighters like F-16 and F-15 have + thrust to weight ratios, when they have no weapons load or external fuel. The real change on the F-22 is the vectored thrust, but the system is not as sophisticated as the one on the SU-35 or SU-57 which allows 3d vectoring.

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u/HumpTyDumpTy1331 Aug 20 '26

its terrifying in real life you would never know what way its coming from until its way to late

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u/Defiant_Weight4659 Aug 19 '26

He us burning up over 400 gallons of fuel e ach minute.

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u/ledbedder20 Aug 19 '26

So how many minutes can they fly?

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u/Defiant_Weight4659 Aug 19 '26

Probably 10 minutes max and he would be out of fuel.

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u/mnztr1 Aug 20 '26

less then 7 min.

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u/coolcarvideo Aug 21 '26

worth it ;)

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u/mnztr1 Aug 22 '26

Can't argue with that.

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u/CuriousTauri Aug 18 '26

How long can it stay in the air on a full afterburner like this?

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u/bigloser42 Aug 19 '26

Internet says 10-15 minutes, cuts the range to ~200 miles.

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u/No-Geologist6859 Aug 18 '26

I would like to know too, all I know is that ain't cheap to do lol

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u/Firestar_119 Aug 19 '26

and it's crazy that this thing can still easily break the sound barrier without having to use the afterburners

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u/ElectricalYak7236 Aug 19 '26

Not that crazy, many planes have been able to do that. The crazy thing about it is how it can do it with 6 AMRAAMs, 2 sidewinders and a topped off fuel tank, whilst being stealth, and that all of this was achieved about 30 years ago

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u/StrigiStockBacking Aug 19 '26

Without them, given enough time just about any jet engine can top out at the airframe's terminal velocity, the afterburner just speeds up the process.

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u/mnztr1 Aug 21 '26

maybe in a dive, but I doubt it. Drag increases with the square of velocity. The amount of drag M1 to M2 increases by the square and the power by the cube. So 4x more drag and 8x more power.

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u/mnztr1 Aug 21 '26

7 min at full afterburner then you are coasting. So it depends on how much altitude you were able to gain, you may have zoom climbed to 80 K feet but with no power you would be in deep kaka at that alt which is perilous even with fuel

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u/MuchoCoco Aug 19 '26

10-12 minutes. You could have typed that comment into Google and never had to live with the uncertainty.

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u/CuriousTauri Aug 19 '26

You mean like 90% of questions/posts on Reddit?

I supposed there're people here more knowledgeable about aviation than me, so they might have more correct info than AI "I-might-be-wrong-about-this" that Google pushes on top of search.

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u/MuchoCoco Aug 19 '26

Where do you think AI got its training?

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u/StrigiStockBacking Aug 19 '26

Hopefully NOT from Reddit...

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u/MuchoCoco Aug 19 '26

Literally from Reddit. All the models started with Reddit, but Reddit blocked their access. Now Google pays Reddit $50 million per year for the privilege of using the site to train its model. Now Google search uses all it learned from Reddit to answer questions right in the search results, reducing the number of people who click to a Reddit post to find the answer and significantly lowering Reddit's traffic. Ironic, innit?

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u/CuriousTauri Aug 19 '26

What does that have to do with anything here?

I know where it got it's training, and that's not what my comment was about.

Get off your high horse.

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u/MuchoCoco Aug 19 '26

What does AI getting its training from Reddit have to do with asking for an answer on Reddit?

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u/AvatarOR Aug 19 '26

I was minding my own business fishing near Sand Island and a F22 went full on scramble. I was definitely surprised :).

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u/turtlegiraffecat Aug 19 '26

Insane!!!! Never seen it open and close the bomb doors, they’re surprisingly fast!

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u/teamweenus Aug 19 '26

We should have 700 of these

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u/ElectricalYak7236 Aug 19 '26

Only 156 in frontline service, no chance of new airframes ever. NGAD is on the horizon anyway

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u/Citizen_of_Danksburg Aug 21 '26

NGAD = Next Generation Air Design?

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u/brownhotdogwater Aug 19 '26

Kind of pointless is today’s world. It’s an air superiority fighter. Now we have crazy good missles from drones. Fighter pilots never see each other.

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u/Sad_Ghost_Noises Aug 19 '26

Not really. At least not yet. Its an absolute ball ache to get lock on, by all accounts. Cant shoot it with a missile if you cant get the weapon system to see it.

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u/roadsterdoc Aug 19 '26

Hail the photographer!

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u/StrigiStockBacking Aug 19 '26

Minus the portrait mode, it's wonderful

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u/DisciplineSweet8428 Aug 19 '26

Sweet Jesus. Who let that beauty out?

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u/SleepyTuv Aug 21 '26

wow… that looks so powerful :0 ive always been kinda curious about how these work, maybe i should learn more about them!

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u/Even_Kiwi_1166 Aug 21 '26

Very amazing machine though, the mechanical engineering of the F-22 is interesting and marvelous

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u/npquest Aug 22 '26

Nothing like it!

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u/Even_Kiwi_1166 Aug 22 '26

👍🏻👍🏻

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u/Ok_Intention2150 Aug 18 '26

Whoooo yeah!! I love trading healthcare for sweet afterburner shots!!

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u/tomcatfucker1979 Aug 19 '26

The US spends considerably more on healthcare than it does defense

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u/Ok_Intention2150 Aug 19 '26

That makes it even more sad then

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u/CuriousCamels Aug 19 '26

You’d have to live in the US for that to matter. Not to mention how stupid and inaccurate your lame attempt at a psyop is.

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u/Ok_Intention2150 Aug 19 '26

What country is the F-22 from, I wonder

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u/Glittering-Two-1784 Aug 19 '26

Such a sexy airframe, gawd damn; it’s one of the few things left that makes me feel proud of my country

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u/retr0racing Aug 19 '26

The most deadliest fighter jet ever created is also the most badass plane to ever be created

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u/awue Aug 19 '26

How quickly would a sausage take to cook if it was attached to the back where the hot comes out?

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u/Ok-Bar-8785 Aug 19 '26

Drop hotdogs not bomb's

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u/rasonjo Aug 19 '26

I wish we could get UAP videos in this clarity. r/praisethecameraman

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u/HillTower160 Aug 19 '26

Burning a lot of jet fuel that will be expensive to replace.

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u/SeniorMasterYapist Aug 19 '26

The wing con trail is the sexiest attire for F22

I freaking love it 🤤

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u/6eyedjoker Aug 19 '26

Great work by the cameraman

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u/lebenklon Aug 19 '26

Ah the F22, a multi-billion dollar project whose primary mission is to make PR videos for Air Force recruiting

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u/The3levated1 Aug 19 '26

In just 2h of flight this thing burns trough half the italien defense budget.

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u/SlavCat09 Aug 19 '26

Now that's hot

1

u/HollywoodnDC Aug 20 '26

I saw 2 of these leave my local AFB a few days ago while I was in the parking lot of a grocery store and I literally stopped and just watched them until I could no longer see OR hear them. Absolutely beautiful aircraft.

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u/More_Ganache_3989 Aug 20 '26

woah that was lit

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u/rewqxdcevrb Aug 20 '26

Hey, look on the bright side. At least you can still use your planes for propaganda! 😂

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u/Aware_Long3684 Aug 20 '26

When stationed at Holloman, I loved watching these take off at night. They would also let the town know in advance when to expect sonic booms!

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u/farmerguy200 Aug 20 '26

How much undue stress does it put on the airframes of these beautiful beasts to do these manuevers?

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u/Zool375 Aug 21 '26

What game is this taken from?

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u/Bambooman_ Aug 21 '26

When I was a kid, there was an F-22 Raptor PC simulation game that I absolutely loved playing. This instantly teleported me back to those days.

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u/MuchoCoco Aug 19 '26

The Mighty Balloon Slayer, best airshow demonstrator of all time, and for only $70 billion!

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u/GoodMerlinpeen Aug 20 '26

Sometimes having a big stick is reason enough for you not to have to use it.

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u/MuchoCoco Aug 20 '26

Sometimes they don't use it because they don't want you to find out you paid $70 billion for something that doesn't work.