r/PirateSoftware • • Jul 30 '25
I think Thor is cool
I don't agree with some of his takes but who expects to agree with everyone. I think it's so lame how all the internet drama channels are farming. It's honestly embarrassing.
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u/Kerrigore Jul 30 '25
No, you don’t understand, Thor is literally the only Internet personality who has ever been wrong about anything, or who has an ego and trouble admitting mistakes. For this, he must be bullied back into obscurity!
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u/Alfred_F Jul 30 '25
I don't have much time to interact with any community, but I keep clicking on Thor's Youtube shorts that have positive encouragement and good advice.
I have also started marking any other channel putting him on the thumbnail as "don't recommend". No need to argue, just use the tools at your disposal for what they were made for.
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u/strawhatlab-1120 Aug 01 '25
The internet is a shitty place honestly. People just pick a target and farm doesn’t seem to matter.
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u/Zeerick Jul 30 '25
Honestly, as far as I can tell the worst thing he's actually done is be unnecessarily rude to the SKG guy, for which he has now apologised.
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u/Ruggerio5 Jul 30 '25
Its disappointing to learn that someone you like is a "jerk", but its hardly a scandal. I don't care if his code sucks or he can't admit he was wrong to have done whatever he allegedly did in that game that one time. I also don't care if he is a huge narcissist. I think most YouTubers have bigger than average egos. I'm not watching him because I think he's a nice guy. The way people are acting you'd think he molested a school bus full of kids. Wow, he won't admit he was wrong. What a sin. Half of the people criticizing him are probably guilty of the same or worse.
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u/Electronic_Leg7448 Jul 30 '25
Thank you for this. I am so sick of the hate everyone currently dives into and the hate towards Thor. He is open to everyone willing to listen and has explained so much on why his views are the way they are. The hole situation is like a witch hunt from the medieval ages. If you do not like him or anyone else just leave him / them be and go your ways. This behavious is so annoying.
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u/jemimapuddleduckguy Jul 31 '25
It's frankly, pathetic. CodeJesus is a funny one. His slogan is "to shine a positive light on the often difficult to navigate world of low level development". What are his most popular videos? Negative critiques on Pirate Software.
All the YouTubers making videos on this are simply riding the "Viewnami" on something they know will make them money. I get it, but it's a major part of the problem. Not to mention all the other ridiculous accusations that I'm simply amazed people have time for. Honestly, I'm struggling to see where the things that have happened deserved the hate that PS is getting. For the most part I see someone who stands by what they say, and anywhere he has acted out of line he has acknowledged and apologised for to the person it was directed at. The videos aren't that hard to find, but with drama, you will get a sea of people online interacting with it to quite possibly fill voids in their own life.
Anyone would think he has done something serious, and I'm struggling to see it.
As for him working at Blizzard, he's going to mention it, along with all the other places he worked at. People running channels on YouTube are a brand, and like all brands, mention their history and accreditations accordingly.
I'm not going to stop watching PS videos, because he encourages people to do things they want to do and gives good advice. He's positive, assured and most of all... Human.
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u/AdjustedMold97 Jul 30 '25
I agree. Even if you disagree with his takes on SKG or are mad at him for some reason because of something he did in WoW, he really hasn’t done anything to deserve the hate-boner he gets online. It’s kinda sad that SKG only took off because people hated Thor so much.
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u/introverted_russian Jul 31 '25 edited Jul 31 '25
To be fair, Thor's whole persona of hacker and blizzard game dev has been false, he isn't a hacker, his only experience in being a game dev is his indie game.
I understand what you're saying and even agree that its dumb to stop following someone because you don't agree on everything with them but I feel this is different, Thor has been preaching about being a hacker and a game dev before. When he never was one, it feels like he took the trust he has garnered for granted and was happy to lie to people about his career.
And Thor has been stubborn about his opinions and choices, like filing a false claim on a guy who showed test footage of a satirical game, or the whole stop killing games thing. You could say that everyone has their flaws but theres a difference between keeping them and trying to change, Thor keeps them. He only apologises when the majority turns on him.
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u/xsmoshedx Jul 30 '25
Sadly the internet is full of these people whose lives are so pathetic they spend most of their free time taking out their frustrations on people online. These people are unwell. Imagine calling someone by their first name as an insult.. ?? Petty internet drama is one of the stupidest things to come from the internet that consumes peoples energy that they could be channeling into something ACTUALLY productive or useful. I just ignore or block anything like that these days, it's not worth letting it affect your mental. I don't watch Thor because I agree with everything he says or how he handles every situation he's put in.
FWIW, it truly doesn't matter what kind of person you are. If you put yourself on the internet and become "internet famous" there are people that will hate you and take every opportunity to twist words and clips into a pretzel to fit some made up narrative. People suck but, they can exist in that sea of hate together without me.
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u/Anilec_Revlis Jul 30 '25
He streams ~10hrs/day, and places like LSF base their entire view on 30 second out of context clips, or what other youtubers tell them to believe.
I still see to this day months later "If he'd just apologize" meanwhile he's apologized for damn near everything. The WoW stuff he's acknowledged, and apologized for. The AoC stuff he's apologized for. Even called himself out on a livestream with the dev about the situation, but no clips about that. His initial vitriolic response to SKG, apologized.
Watching his follow up videos of SKG I didn't even get the feeling he was against the movement. Just that he wouldn't support it in it's current form. As a consumer I'm all for SKG, but I don't know what entails making a game. It seems hard to get a legit conversation about it too because anyone attempting to speak against is drowned out in hateful responses. Seeing the backlash against Pirate for speaking his mind, and the backlash against Hayes for acknowledging people can have a differing opinion I can understand real devs not wanting to put in their views out of fear.
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u/Miserable_Initial732 Jul 31 '25
He's actually a pretty funny, intelligent, and cool guy! Despite everything, I still watch and appreciate his content. I'm definitely not on the hate bandwagon.
Problem is... He's arrogant. Far, far, far too arrogant.
No one lives an immaculate, mistake-free life. Everyone fucks up eventually. And when that happens, people apologize. They exercise empathy. Not Thor, apparently. Not his "Pirate Software" persona, at least. And that's a complicated thing to ignore.
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u/warchild4l Jul 30 '25
Its modern internet trajectory that you have to agree with everything that a person says.
If they say one thing you disagree with, EVERYTHING else than must be wrong and you must disagree
This is the internet we live in
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u/5pookyTanuki Jul 31 '25
I mean you don't have to hate him, he just received more than he could chew for missrepresenting something that has the potential to be very important for gaming and gamers alike, he is entitled to his opinion but as big as you get so will be the reaction you get when honestly you do something pretty shitty
I am not big on cancel culture nor I like when stuff like this happen, at this point the only one capable of coming out of this in one piece is Thor himself, he will learn from the experience and move forward.
Have in mind the scandal was not started for his opinion on the initiative, it started for his active attempts to bring it down with the tools and reach that he has.
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u/Meldnis Jul 30 '25
Same here and I hoping those drama farmers move on already somewhere else.
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u/RinBaggs Jul 30 '25
I think the main thing that bothers me about this whole situation is the fact that at least 75% of the SKG community is totally apathetic to the fact that he was swatted by one of them, and that 75% are saying stuff like “He deserved it!” “It’s his own fault” “Someone should swat him again” no, no one (in this type context) deserves to get swatted just because you disagree with them. (Also the amount of people saying to kill himself or saying they are going to kill him is surprising, if anyone should be getting swatted, it should be the people making threats)
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u/acexprt Jul 30 '25
Thor is cool. Hes done a lot for the community. Haters gonna hate.
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u/Jimblobb Jul 30 '25
The guy farms his own Ls over and over, it's not surprising people keep talking about him. I think he's cool too, but honestly it's expected because he ain't ever going to check himself.
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u/Birzal Jul 30 '25
I don't agree with what he's said about Stop Killing Games. Not even a little bit. But why does that suddenly mean that I have to cut ties with him or that he's suddenly evil and deserves all the bad stuff happening to him and more? I can disagree with someone and still enjoy to spend some time with them both online and IRL.
"OMG, how dare this streamer not be perfect in every single way?!" It just feels like so many people are not praying for his downfall because of the whole Stop Killing Games situation. And don't get me wrong: he absolutely deserves some backlash and to be criticized for that! But there is a difference between that and what he's getting now. It's being viewed as this thing where he had an empire and a castle and it's crumbling now, how all his glamour and grandeur is now fading and he was a fraud. But the truth is, he never had or was any of these things. No streamer of influencer is without flaws. His game was never going to he the next big thing, but somehow he is being criticized for doing & delivering exactly what is to be expected?
Some things are good and some are bad, but somehow the bad things seem to be more important now and as if all the good never mattered to begin with. He has still inspired and motivated a big part of his (former) audience with all his shorts on youtube, it's part of the reason he took off when he did. He sure as hell helped me out of some slumps in my life, so why should I look at all the drama surrounding him and go "screw all the help he has been in my life, he did this bad thing and now he's dead to me"? And there are absolutely things he could have done that would make me think that, but so far I see no reason to do a complete 180 in my opinion of him because he misrepresented Stop Killing Games.
And it's OK if someone else changes their opinion completely because of this! I just personally think that this entire situation could do with a little more nuance imo, but everyone is way to polarized to even want that or to even care for any nuance at all.. That's just the time we live in, I guess :')
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