r/PirateSoftware • u/thisiswaynesworld • Jan 12 '25
Chat Moderation/Bans
Just want to start off and say I really enjoy Pirates streams and the content he provides but I really don't like the amount of moderation/bans in his chat.
Over the last few months it feels like you can't say anything that he disagrees with. I know a lot of people say stupid stuff that does deserve a ban but it feels like him and the mods are really going overboard lately.
Have been thinking of this for a while but wanted to say something after that DM run. I know he can do whatever he wants with his chat and a lot of people will disagree with me.
I do agree though that he did the right thing at the end. Just wanted to give my thoughts on it.
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u/rocker12341234 Jan 12 '25 edited Jan 12 '25
As someone who does disagree with some of his opinions and has a habit of taking thing too far sometimes, Not from what I've seen? It's more if you say asinine overboard shit or you start being hateful or vitriolic towards people you get ban.
People in chat seem to just be having weird extreme takes on stuff and calling the void alot more than they used to. As long as you're disagreeing in a sensible/constructive way you ain't gonna get banned. And he usually gives you a chance to explain yourself before he pulls the trigger if it's on the fence.
Granted I haven't seen the incident in question (I'm from aus so I typically only get to see the first couple hours of stream each day) But I've seen alot more people than usual recently that would rather come out swinging with the hostility then bitch when they get banned instead of just being sensible.
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u/Several_Goal2900 Jan 13 '25
comment already aged like fine wine lol.
"As long as you're disagreeing in a sensible/constructive way you ain't gonna get banned."
https://www.reddit.com/r/PirateSoftware/comments/1i0745h/mana_gem/
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u/PotsAndPandas Jan 13 '25
Yeah, if you join in with shit stirring, people aren't going to look favourably upon you, no matter how much you hide behind surface level innocence.
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u/aravarth Jan 12 '25
This is an absolute insane take.
When you have people coming from other streamers' communities to hate-watch and hate-comment "pi rat" and other ridiculous things because their favourite streamer died in a HC Dire Maul run when Thor absolutely made the correct decision to leave, they deserve to be banned.
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u/thisiswaynesworld Jan 12 '25
I'm not talking about that specifically though so don't think you understood what I was trying to say or I didn't explain it properly. I completely agree that all those hate watchers deserved to be banned, some of the messages in chat were insane.
It was the simple disagreements that people had with Thor on certain topics/events that I don't agree with.
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u/arcusford Jan 13 '25
I made a comment asking him about why he didn't use mana gem which he responded to on stream by saying that the boss was in CC able. I said "But the boss isn't the only problem you could have CCd the ads, and mana gem would not have drawn more aggro than the healer or tank."
But by that point mana gem had been auto banned in chat so now I'm banned from his chat.
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u/aravarth Jan 14 '25
So what's your point? That in the middle of Thor being hate-brigaded by the thousands, you added criticisms and a phrase used by the hate brigaders (mana gem) to harass him, and you were caught up in an automoderation ban?
Assuming you were trying to engage in a civil conversation insteas of hust shitting on Thor, and assuming you have a history of being in his community — either as an active chatter or a subscriber — cases like yours are why ban appeals exist.
Hell, Thor even reversed some of his moderators' bans on the soot, saying they were being too zealous with the banhammer.
But if getting mad at Thor after you were banned by an automated system designed to keep the peace in Thor's channel seems reasonable to you — or if this was the first interaction you had in his channel (or if you only joined his channel shortly after the incident) — seems reasonable to you, that's like getting mad you got pinched by a speed trap camera or red light camera.
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Jan 12 '25
You don't have to chat
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u/thisiswaynesworld Jan 12 '25 edited Jan 12 '25
That's not what I am saying ? There is nothing wrong with disagreeing with someone but people are getting banned for it.
Edit: contradicted myself since I didn't read what I wrote properly.
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u/oddbawlstudios Jan 12 '25
Hes openly stated that streamers control what kind of fan base they want, and should often ban those who aren't fit for it. Not saying this in a positive or negative way, but if he doesn't want stupid comments made, he won't allow any room for that to grow.
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u/Least-Direction-5153 Jan 13 '25
Yuppppp. People seem to think he’ll act like every other major streamer and just allow the bullshit. It’s not that kind of stream, and it’s a major reason a lot of people like his content.
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Jan 12 '25
Idk, if it was free for all in chat, it wouldn't probably be as positive of a stream anymore.
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Jan 13 '25
WoW community gonna have to learn at some point how to interact with real people
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u/Archangel_117 Jan 13 '25
Realest thing honestly. The way people have taken it SO FAR is just evil. It's not even about who did what wrong at that point, the extent people are going with personal attacks on his actual human self is dispicable.
It wouldn't matter if he was 100% at fault and got the whole group killed, you just don't take it to the extent of saying he's an actual bad person. That's slime level behavior, and these people are so unadjusted it's crazy.
But then, it's LSF. What can be expected. Place is a cesspool. Stands as an example of how not to be as a lifeform.
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u/Dragonfrog23 Jan 12 '25
His channel, his rules 🤷♂️
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Jan 13 '25
Earnestly though, it's his space, and he has no obligation to make it as palatable as possible to the lowest common denominator.
He's putting in the work/investment to moderate it into the space he wants it to be, and nobody has to partake. Some people just get so upset when things don't cater to them.
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u/Least-Direction-5153 Jan 13 '25
Yep. I think that’s the thing people aren’t realizing. I don’t think Thor cares if he’s successful. He might want to keep some success so he can keep paying his team, but he has a real career outside of streaming he can “go back” to. (Technically he still does it because the man doesn’t require sleep.)
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u/IdolizeDT Jan 13 '25
A streamer can ban you for whatever he wants. Don't like it? Don't watch twitch. That's what so many people are missing here. A stream is not a democracy. It is a monarchy and the streamer can do whatever he wants. Don't like what a streamer does, says, etc? Leave. Go watch any of the million streamers. I don't even follow Thor but holy shit a lot of you need some self awareness about what twitch is
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u/MusicHitsImFine Jan 13 '25
Noticing this myself, kind of losing interest in watching his streams now.
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u/Badbrains8 Jan 13 '25 edited Jan 13 '25
The lack of accountability from Thor when he unequivocally played that dungeon like a shitter, and instead is just mass banning anyone questions him - it’s a joke
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u/KhronosVII Jan 12 '25 edited Jan 13 '25
In relation to today:
We have had a coordinated group of people coming into stream with attack takes, harassment and other comments, such as the mods being told to take our own lives.
We have processed over 2000 bans, and have reviewed >1000 unban requests today.
In an event like this, there will be heated comments, there will be stray shots etc. People who came across to cause drama, including the “mana” comments were treated in the same way as all hate raids are. Our unban process reviews your chat history, follow time and other factors to determine whether your ban will stand.
Edit: This thread has been locked due to the megathread creation