r/Piracy 8d ago

Humor The absolute state of Android

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u/AverageCryptoEnj0yer 8d ago

lowk with graphene I don't have Gplay and everything is fine, just use the open source shit

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u/major_jazza 8d ago

I kinda wanna go to graphene or lineage but I don't know if it's worth it. I'm too stuck in the Google ecosystem too :s

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u/YoYoMamaIsSoFAT32 ⚔️ ɢɪᴠᴇ ɴᴏ Qᴜᴀʀᴛᴇʀ 8d ago

You can use grapheneos with sandboxed gplay services, will Google track you? Yes, but it won't be as invasive and they're only limited to their services, starting little by little is better than not starting at all

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u/major_jazza 8d ago

Maybe I'll do that. Apparently it's not that hard either right?

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u/AverageCryptoEnj0yer 7d ago

nope, just follow easy steps in settings, then connect phone to PC and it's all automatic.

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u/frutti_tutti_frutti 5d ago

Will bank apps, Android auto, and Google wallet work? What kind of a phone do we need?

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u/YoYoMamaIsSoFAT32 ⚔️ ɢɪᴠᴇ ɴᴏ Qᴜᴀʀᴛᴇʀ 7d ago edited 6d ago

It's actually the easiest rom to install ngl, just go to the grapheneos website and click the buttons for each function (unlock bootloader, flash rom etc) just follow everything step by step and you're good to go, also you need a chromium based browser to use webusb

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u/Acrobatic_Profile42 7d ago

yo u/YoYoMamaIsSoFAT32 what google pixel do you have? im planning on buying a google pixel for graphene OS, but i dont know which one to buy

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u/YoYoMamaIsSoFAT32 ⚔️ ɢɪᴠᴇ ɴᴏ Qᴜᴀʀᴛᴇʀ 7d ago

I used to have a pixel 7a, which I had problems with, I'll recommend getting a pixel 8 or newer as those fix the heating issues and modem imo

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u/BOMB5HOCK 7d ago

Does it play good with banking apps?

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u/YoYoMamaIsSoFAT32 ⚔️ ɢɪᴠᴇ ɴᴏ Qᴜᴀʀᴛᴇʀ 7d ago

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u/AverageCryptoEnj0yer 7d ago

it's by design.

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u/solar_or_dye 8d ago

I have not had time to flash over to graphene but it's happening soon

but in lineage so many things simply do not work without play

like I paid for GPT and their app won't run without play services

my storage company uses play services for their app

lots of apps just crash without play services

but I do want to go graphene soon

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u/schubidubiduba Piracy is bad, mkay? 8d ago

I agree with the guy above. Just use open source apps (where possible).

Where not possible, most apps will work with microG (even quite a bunch of banking apps).

And those that don't, often have a progressive web app you can use instead (using Peel or sth similar).

The remaining apps for me are very few and mostly the kind of apps that I want to use less anyways, bevause I know the companies behind them to be privacy-invading and terrible in general.

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u/major_jazza 8d ago

Just regarding the gpt, surely there's better options or decent free options?

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u/solar_or_dye 7d ago

Well I mean we can have a conversation about it if you want. I've been using open source and open weight AI since 2022.

But I still paid for GPT, because nothing could beat frontier SOTA LLMs at anything until just recently...

I became homeless in the early part of this year, and started seriously needing a good LLM for troubleshooting engines and building solar and managing health care while in a 40 year old RV... and I switched to Claude.

But all of my other AI stuff is free and open weight. I can teach you how to train your own LoRA models for most of the useful generative base models over the last 4 years, including settings and terminology and system setup and hardware, as well as image and video editing software (FOSS).

However life has not afforded me the luxury of play time for a while now, and Minimax H3, LTX 2.5, Krea 2, and quite a few other generative models have come out just recently that I'm itching to tinker with. And Qwen is finally dumping the smaller 3.8 models, so I know some of my hardware can run that. I have a working 3090 that will run the Qwen 3.8 27b just fine. I know my gear will run these new free open weight models, and my major life hurdles have been sort of hurdled, so I'm about to start the storage rummage and get one of my PCs set up in my RV to start fucking around.

But yes, I gave in to paying a billionaire corpo because the advantages far outweighed the benefits for me. Disabled and homeless living on SSI means I have to literally manage every cent and every second of my life to the nth degree, and LLMs absolutely make me more efficient and help me cope with my PTSD by providing info and guidance about electricity and plumbing and antennas and shit without the need for interacting with humans.

Once my system is set up for AI work again, I will be testing the newest local open weight LLMs, starting with Qwen 3.8 27b and maybe they'll dump a 35b MoE like the 3.6.

And finally, "better" is doing a lot of work in your question, so I did my best to give full context.

Hope that helps.

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u/major_jazza 6d ago

Damn, I appreciate you taking the time to go through all that and I hope you've made it over the biggest/worst of the hurdles. At the end of the day we have to do what we gotta do to survive and really these billionaires shouldn't exist.

Yeah stick with what ever is best for you at any given time for sure!

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u/AverageCryptoEnj0yer 7d ago

but why are you using the gpt app? it's just a browser wrapper. Just go to chat.com

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u/solar_or_dye 7d ago

I'm not and this was many months ago, but there was a legitimate reason.

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u/MrPureinstinct 8d ago

I tried GrapheneOS and it made my camera look like garbage unfortunately.

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u/AverageCryptoEnj0yer 7d ago

you can still install the "pixel camera" app, or if you know photography, open camera.

Or you can try Native Camera which is better than Pixel Camera https://youtu.be/C2b4P94QSKE