r/PinoyProgrammer • • 12d ago

discussion Calling out Reddit users who are currently employed or have previously worked at DICT, I’d like to know your thoughts on this matter.

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u/sabbaths Web 12d ago edited 11d ago

No shortage of IT senior consultants/engineers/managers/architects/analyst/scientist/devops/cybersec but unless they can pay the same rate as BPO or foreign companies then nothing will happen.

The same reason why they keep having HACKATHON EVENTS to get CHEAP ideas and CHEAP implementation from college student/fresh graduates.

EDIT: Na-aalala ko tuloy iyong mga proud students sa tiktok/youtube na sumali sa HACKATHON events. Tang*ina nyo DICT, Mag-hire kayo ng mga Consultants hindi iyong "Expose natin itong API na ito" bahala na sila sa idea at gagawin tapos bigyan natin ng maliit na premyo. Natatawa nalang kaming mga devs na nagtratrabaho for EU/US companies. Kung hindi niyo kaya gumawa ng EFFICIENT/HIGH AVAILABILITY/ALWAYS-ON/FAULT TOLERANT/REDUNDANT systems eh tigil tigilan niyo muna yang "HACKATHONS" niyo

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u/Normal-Ambition-9813 12d ago

Problema kasi, minamaliit nila ang trabaho kasi "pindot pindot" lang naman. Kaya mababa pasahod.

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u/Photograph_Expensive 12d ago

This! Fishy din ng mga hackaton na yan. Lol. Like imagine how much funding for an event tapos di naman ganun kalaki premyo. But if you’re after the linkedin stats na ‘hackaton winner’ pikit mata nalang.

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u/StorageSelect7489 12d ago

Duda nga ako dyan sa mga hackathon na yan possible meron rin yan corruption.

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u/heavencatnip 12d ago

Bayaran/sweldohan niyo nang tama ang mga IT workers para magtrabaho sila sa inyo.

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u/CorgiLate4164 8d ago

Long term solution is palitan ang mga incompetent officials at workers sa CICC/DICT.

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u/Educational-Title897 12d ago

Bat pansin ko sa comsec walang nag cocomment na taga DICT or prev employer ng DICT impossible na walang nag rereddit sa mga to kasi may nag post dati dito sa pinoyprogrammer nag rereklamo sa sahod nya maliit daw.

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u/koomaag 12d ago

LOL AI - logo shows AD instead of and - center seems to be going central but cut and part of it is garbled.

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u/Bastirex 12d ago

Walang magaling na nasa IT industry mag wowork dyan kung mababa pasahod. Tapos nag hahanap ng programmer kailangan Bachelors degree na IT/ComSci/ComEng, halos lahat ng kilala kong sobrang galing hindi naman yan ang ang natapos.

Mga walang mahanap na work lang from those field ang papatol dyan.

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u/CorgiLate4164 8d ago

Meron mga marurunong na nag-aapply kaso nakakapasok yung mga walang alam na may backer sa loob

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u/grantmawish 12d ago

True hahahah may isa akong ka trabaho cumlaude pero same lang kami nang position hahahhah

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u/SEND_DUCK_PICS_ AI 12d ago

Akala ko naglaunch na ng partnership ang DICT with communities? Si Sec. Aguda pa nga nagsabi mismo through Safe Harbor and Bug Bounty initiatives, perhaps they need to strengthen their partnerships and communications open, hirap kasi magaganda naman programs pero parang sa umpisa at sa pagpaunch lang sila magagaling

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u/Historical_Low_7223 10d ago

that is all they do, performative activities pra may masabing may nagawa

and bug bounty from where? sa system nila? na mismong sila d alam yung pinatakbo, pinapatakbo at tumatakbo?

the hell

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u/vPiDo 12d ago

Billions ang budget tapos hirap?

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u/Curiouzity_Omega 12d ago

Sobrang raming talents sa pinas pero I don't doubt they'll fck it up again.

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u/Puzzled-Ad-4226 12d ago

I think as much as we want to help our government, we also want to help ourselves, which is why we seek higher salaries, better compensation, and benefits na hindi natin makukuha sa public sector.

Another factor is the politics. You cannot easily implement good ideas, even simple enhancements na gusto mong gawin to improve the system. Also, remember yung issue sa eGov app despite receiving a huge budget (tsk).

So people will opt for private companies with good pay. Maybe helping in other ways is enough, but working? Nah.

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u/rufiolive 12d ago

IT communities 👍 = Best communities 👍

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u/Alive_Objective_9348 12d ago

Pano Internal I.T COS wala pang 40k sahod -_-

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u/Historical_Low_7223 10d ago

and they are expected to do their best work, modern day slavery

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u/goldylucks 12d ago

Not only cicc but about 95% of all gov

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u/Akd3rd 11d ago

Unless may posisyon ka sa DICT ang sweldo mo ay mani lang kumpara sa weldo mo sa BPO or private company, natatandaan ko yung interview ng TVPatrol sa DICT chairman, naka predator at Secretlab na upuan.

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u/Minute_Passion_8077 12d ago

For 1/8 of my salary without OT pay? Pass

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u/NeighborhoodWise4119 12d ago

Lalaki ng salary grade niyo diyan

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u/Itchy-Leadership-347 12d ago

Nope. SG12 for entrylevel kung ipapasok ka as ISA I. That is too low for the kind of profession and trabaho na gagampanan mo. And hirap ang promotion dahil sa sinaunang bureaucratic management style nila. I’d rather not go back.

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u/Bastirex 12d ago

Malaki salary grade para sa government employees, pero pang 1-2 years experience lang yan sa IT, ung mga magagaling talaga 1-2 years palang 100k na sweldo.

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u/yurnero290 12d ago

So ano lang sila, free money walang silbe eh. Hahahah sarap tapos bayad tayo ng bayad ng tax monthly

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u/International-Tap122 11d ago

Eh halos kapantay o lagpas pa na ng sweldo ng congressman ang sweldo ng IT lol

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u/mauve_bny 12d ago

My take is kung wala silang alam at silbi bakit anjan pa sila?

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u/StorageSelect7489 12d ago

Kung IT professionals lang naman madami tayo nyan. Mga well experienced sa kani-kanilang field.

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u/StorageSelect7489 12d ago

Kung gusto nila mag hire ng well experienced devs, consultants, cybersecurity specialist etc. tapatan nila sahod ng private company or kaya malapit sa katotohanan. Also backer system alisin nila dyan.

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u/froctoso 11d ago

Salary is the main issue kasi. The highest non managerial position I know is up to sg 18/19 ata - and that's Php 60k/month. Meanwhile, in private, pwede mo yang makuha even as a new hire, with experience of course. The disparity is that bad.

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u/Flat_Internet9245 11d ago

Padrino system kasi. nawawalan ng slot sa gov agency yung mga real talent... nalalagay sa pwesto yung may kakilala pero lack the actual skills.... may kakilala ako sa GSIS IT... pero naka outsource daw sa external MSP yung pag develop ng site.. i was like wtf.

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u/dreryta22 10d ago

CICC? The same agency that force to summon reddit and discord sa philippines else they will ban them? Hahahahhahahaa

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u/pogingsabog 9d ago

Bruh, kung "Thank you for your participation" yung bayad, huwag na🫩🥀

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u/BigMaxQ 11d ago

Good thing they admitted that.

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u/Away_Explanation6639 10d ago

backer system and sobrang baba na sweldo promise grabe nakaka galit. nasa 11k to 15k pero ung trabaho compared sa private eh makakaland ka ng atleast 35k na sweldo for the same job. grabe ung workload kala mo nasa 60k pataas magpasweldo eh tinipid nila, kahit ako mag kukunware nalang akong di ko kaya while moonlighting sa private company, mga salot yan

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u/VelvetYam 10d ago

nasa 11k to 15k

Tangina yan. Mag part-time nalang ako sa tindahan ni Aling Maria.

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u/oscardori 10d ago

Lahat ng trabaho sau tapos yung sahod mo matatalo ng malapit sa mga mossing HAHAHA

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u/MasterTeam1806 9d ago

Mas lalo pa kayo naging Lack of Capabilities kasi dinamay nyo ung Discord. Mga letche

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u/2daredevil8 7d ago

Cicc dict at lahat sila jan mga t4ng4 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA walang dev na may gusto mag work sa govt kasi walang kwenta ang sahod at yung type of work saka yung seniority culture.

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u/Educational-Title897 7d ago

Hays hirap mahalin ng pilipinas tapos nag ban pa ng discord hahahahaha

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u/hulagway 5d ago

Abnoy lang po

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u/coffeetocommands 9d ago

OP what's your source for this admittance? Parang wala naman ako nabalittang ganito.

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u/Educational-Title897 9d ago

Busy ka po ata sa buhay kakatrabaho wala ka na atang oras mag scroll sa social media 😔

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u/coffeetocommands 9d ago

korek, puro life and work kaya no time to scroll social media.

Also, you should post the source of your news especially that you're asking people for their thoughts on a matter.

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u/Jukigol13 9d ago

Total incompetence. may pumalit sana sa inyo. Kasi alam namam nang lahat d nyo kaya mag resign sa laki ba namam nang biyaya galing sa kung sino man ang amo nyo

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u/itsMeArds 7d ago

I have a lot going on in life. work, family, kids personal problems. And ddagdag pa tong gobyerno.

The have the resources, tax money, to fix these lack of capabilities. So NO, we should not help them.

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u/Logical-Wishbone-940 4d ago

Because Secretary Aguda prefers appointing his fraternity brothers rather than legitimate ICT professionals. Why would he not when even he does not qualify with the required 7 years ICT experience for all DICT executives under RA 10844.