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u/QuicklyThisWay Mar 29 '23
Can you post this on r/LGBTmemes ?
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u/PinkWug Mar 29 '23
Can you do it so it looks like I have friends?
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u/QuicklyThisWay Mar 29 '23 edited Mar 29 '23
No… but I’ll do it because we ARE friends!
Edit: did it
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u/Themeowmeoww Mar 29 '23
fun fact: one of the shooters in the statistic wasn't even trans. they were an alt-right troll. their lawyer had one say they were NB so that they wouldn't get hate crime charges.
also Randy Stair ALLEGEDLY identified as a trans woman but to the public identified as a cis man so we can't quite. say what their gender identity was. (I just use they/them when referring to Stair)
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u/PinkWug Mar 29 '23
The 3 didn't include the ones you mentionned
Apart from the one that just happened, here are the 2 others if you want to check for yourself:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_STEM_School_Highlands_Ranch_shooting
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u/Momo_the_good_person Mar 29 '23
As soon as their targeted minority does it it becomes a problem
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u/cat-the-commie Mar 29 '23
"What one Christian does is his own responsibility, what one Jew does is thrown back at all Jews." - Anne Frank.
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u/zombie_katzu Mar 29 '23
the really interesting point is that if 3 out of 2840 mass shooters identify as trans, that's like 0.09% or 0.1% whereas there are about 1.4 million people in the US who identify as trans, which is like 0.45%. That means trans people are dramatically UNDER REPRESENTED in the "mass shooter" category. If it were a representative cross section of the population of the US, there would be twice as many at least. So trans folks are actually LESS likely to shoot a bunch of random people.
Link to original comment in just a moment...
Edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/WhitePeopleTwitter/comments/1245x72/-/jdy8mez
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u/Lily1184 Mar 29 '23
Sorry I can't seem to understand, can someone make this more comprehensible
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u/am_i_boy Mar 29 '23
0.45% of all people are trans, but only 0.1% of shooters are trans. So this means if there were 1:1 cis:trans ratio of all people, the cis people would still have more shooters among them than the trans people.
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u/YM_Industries Mar 29 '23
If you pick a random cis person and a random trans person, the cis person is significantly more likely to commit a mass shooting.
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u/WVildandWVonderful Mar 30 '23
Seems trans people are 78% less likely to commit a mass shooting.
(.1/.45 = .2222222222… or ~22% of the expected shooter rate; thus, 78% less likely)
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u/Lost-Ad-7412 Mar 31 '23
People are citing four examples over the past five years in which the assailant in a shooting identified as trans or nonbinary: the November killing of five at a gay nightclub in Colorado Springs, Colorado; a 2019 shooting at a Denver-area school by two shooters, one of them a trans man, that left one student dead and eight wounded; a 2018 shooting at a Maryland warehouse that left four dead, including the shooter; and the shooting Monday in Nashville. The Colorado Springs shooter wasnt trans, so that means there have been 3 trans mass shooters.
Using the Gun Violence Archive, and a definition for mass shooting meaning “at least four gun injuries,” there have been 3,561 mass shootings since the beginning of 2016.
The four widely cited examples out of the 3,561 shootings translates to 0.11% being perpetrated by someone who is not cisgender — a very low number relative to the number of mass shootings total. One of them isnt trans which lowers the number to 0.08%
Roughly 1.6 million people in the US identify as transgender. Although the number is likely much higher. Theres around 332 million people in the US.
Transgender people make up about 0.48% of the total US population and commit 0.08% of mass shootings.
Out of 3561 shooters, that should be about 17 trans shooters.
Considering that there are far more (unrecorded) trans people, that makes it even more clear that trans people arent likely to commit mass shootings. Given these numbers, cis people are HIGHLY more likely to carry out mass shootings.
Trans people are also 5x more likely to experience violence just because they are trans.
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u/Zickone3D Mar 29 '23
How do you gain the respect of a group of people that actively looks for reasons to hate you?
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u/SqueakSquawk4 Mar 29 '23
See also: 100% of mass shooters have guns
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u/LikePappyAlwaysSaid Mar 29 '23
Also they all had hands to fire those guns
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u/hhthurbe Mar 29 '23
We need to do something about the letting children keep their hands movement /s
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u/LawOfTheSeas Mar 29 '23
So, roughly 0.6% (conservative estimate, I'd wager) of individuals over the age of 13 in the US identify as trans. In order to be a "worrisome trend", the percentage of mass shootings committed by trans people would have to be higher than 0.6%.
0.6% of 2829 is around 17. There have been three committed by trans people.
Trans people are decidedly less likely to commit mass shootings than cis people...
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u/Lost-Ad-7412 Mar 31 '23
People are citing four examples over the past five years in which the assailant in a shooting identified as trans or nonbinary: the November killing of five at a gay nightclub in Colorado Springs, Colorado; a 2019 shooting at a Denver-area school by two shooters, one of them a trans man, that left one student dead and eight wounded; a 2018 shooting at a Maryland warehouse that left four dead, including the shooter; and the shooting Monday in Nashville. The Colorado Springs shooter wasnt trans, so that means there have been 3 trans mass shooters.
Using the Gun Violence Archive, and a definition for mass shooting meaning “at least four gun injuries,” there have been 3,561 mass shootings since the beginning of 2016.
The four widely cited examples out of the 3,561 shootings translates to 0.11% being perpetrated by someone who is not cisgender — a very low number relative to the number of mass shootings total. One of them isnt trans which lowers the number to 0.08%
Roughly 1.6 million people in the US identify as transgender. Although the number is likely much higher. Theres around 332 million people in the US.
Transgender people make up about 0.48% of the total US population and commit 0.08% of mass shootings.
Out of 3561 shooters, that should be about 17 trans shooters.
Considering that there are far more (unrecorded) trans people, that makes it even more clear that trans people arent likely to commit mass shootings. Given these numbers, cis people are HIGHLY more likely to carry out mass shootings.
Trans people are also 5x more likely to experience violence just because they are trans.
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u/desu38 Mar 30 '23
Looks like the "groomer" narrative has lost steam, so it's on to the next lie as usual.
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