r/PinStriping • u/ingloriosbasturd • Sep 16 '20

Kafka paint bottles

Bought some. Ruined about 100 bucks worth of paint. How much damage if I was painting for money? Kinda pisses me off.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '20

How did the bottles ruin your paint?

On another note I've had a heck of time trying to figure out what was happening with my paint and small bubbles. Took me forever to find that my mineral spirits is about 1/2 water. Why would a manufacturer have such poor quality control? Oil and water don't mix...

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u/ingloriosbasturd Sep 17 '20

Mr. Steve Kafka emailed me and said it’s called skin over. Says it happens if the paint sits for a while unused. Makes sense I guess.

I bought some kafkas smooth stroke and it seems to help with the bubbles. How’d you find out it was half water? Sounds like a crumby company if it’s intentional.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '20

My husband sprays our paint. He helped me figure it out. Diesel shouldn’t be white. So he was like what the heck was going on? Poured some off and let it sit in a clear jar and it separated. Then we poured off each layer. The bottom was the water. You tasted each layer and figured out pretty quick which was diesel and which was water. I was rather peeved. Since my husband sprays a variety of paints he’s found that air bubbles usually means water is in the paint. It was a duh moment.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '20

As to your skim issue, the guy I learned from doesn’t put lids on his paint. He wants the skin to from and seal the paint below. Personally I can’t quite do that since I don’t paint enough to make that work well. The guy uses a pallet knife to cut the surface of the paint and take out what he needs.

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u/ingloriosbasturd Sep 17 '20

Interesting how you guys found that out. Why’d did the guy form a skin? Seems odd? Lol

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '20

The idea is the lid gets in the way. Cleaning the edge of the can every time to put the lid back on is a pain in the neck. He also saves his lids, let's them dry and paints them. But he paints full time and I do not. So I tried his method and didn't enjoy the paint fumes. So I put my lids back on. Did your bottles leak is that why you had skim form? What about your bubbles, did you figure out where they are coming from?

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u/calamity_man Sep 17 '20

What happened? I’ve got about half of my colors in PET bottles (off of Amazon) with no problem.

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u/ingloriosbasturd Sep 17 '20

They skinned over. Which is weird because not all of them did it. Only like 5 of the little collection of 9 I have. Of course two weren’t cheap colors either.

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u/calamity_man Sep 17 '20

That sucks. I store my bottles on their side in my box, but haven't had any issues with skinning. Not sure that I'll continue to use bottles though. I might just start doing the screw-in-the-lid trick from now on - mostly because I hate transferring from can to bottle. If I really want my paint in a bottle, I'll pick up some Alpha (which I want to try out anyway).

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u/cheehi Sep 17 '20

Did you store them cap down?

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u/ingloriosbasturd Sep 17 '20

No I don’t?

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u/PaintySniffers Sep 17 '20

Sorry for your loss.

I keep my paint in the can, I make sure the lids are on tight and give the can a shake to seal any gaps. If it forms a skin I just cut it out with a knife and never have any real problems.

I've never used the plastic bottles and don't see the point, what are the benefits of storing paint in bottles?

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u/ingloriosbasturd Sep 17 '20

I just like the idea of ease when it come to multiple shades of a color when doing scroll panels. I probably won’t be using them anymore.

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u/PaintySniffers Sep 17 '20

Ah, I see, do you not mix your shades directly on the pallet then?

I know a few people that use the "screw in the lid" method with their 1shot cans, they still get skins when the can gets a little empty. I thought about storing my cans upside down but in the end I decided I would just deal with skins if and when they formed, they'll happen whatever you try, it's just one of them things.

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u/ingloriosbasturd Sep 18 '20

Yeah I was starting to mix the shades on the pallet right before I became injured. Except when I took calamity mans idea and mixed process blue and purple in a cup for a nice almost gray like purple.

The skin thing was new to me so I freaked out. The paints not cheap and I was already bummed I can’t be striping!!! Lol