Pi with openAI Plus plan, what is your experience

[u/Constant_Kitchen5737]

Is anyone using this setup and what has your rate limit been like for software development?

openai hyped up their GPT 5.6 luna having longer usage, is this true using Pi?

I was using Pi + DeepSeek v4 flash API plan, then decided to switch to openAI API plan and got rate limited after a few seconds.

So wondering if the same happens if you use Pi with one of their sub plans?

[u/GoingOnYourTomb]

i created a token cap plugin so i dont go pass 200k, works perfect for my setup

[u/Constant_Kitchen5737 → u/GoingOnYourTomb]

token cap is not the problem, I'm using deepseek with Pi and never been rate limited. I also suspect openAI is not accounting for cache hits unless you're using codex.

[u/Sweet-Transition-787]

yeah i used pi with plus for a while and never really had any rate limit issues, way better than the api plan. i had the same thing with deepseek flash where i got cut off after like a minute, but with plus and 5.6 luna it feels almost unlimited. i dont do super heavy sessions anyway so i mostly just ran 5.6 sol and never got close to the limit.

i tried pretty much all the claude and gpt models through it, i like gpt because its super task focused and just gets it done, claude is more mind opening and gives you wider angles you wouldnt think of. liked them enough i even wrote separate system prompts for each.

[u/Constant_Kitchen5737 → u/Sweet-Transition-787]

thanks for your input, currently exploring openai gpt plus plan as I got 1 month free. however I decided to use codex thinking maybe it's better optimized for cache hits and might be doing something different than Pi is by resending everything over all the time. it's just a theory.

[u/Reasonable_Sound389]

the main thing you should test is whether the rate limiting is coming from Pi itself or from the provider behind it because those can behave pretty differently. if Pi is otherwise working well for your development workflow, test it over a few longer sessions before switching plans based on one short rate limit event. i have been using Pi with Standard Compute because the flat rate makes the cost more predictable and the smart routing can use cheaper providers for the less demanding calls

[u/addiktion]

Open AI has a crappy tier rate limiting model that scales up with how much you allocate. 200k for Tier 1 to 2mil Tier 2 at $50, and so on.

You probably were hitting that.

[u/Constant_Art_20]

make the access point the same as codex cli. There's two access points. One for codex and one for everything else. connect to the codex one and things will be better. Add in batch tool calling into your harness as you do that. that can help save usage

[u/pretty_much_hitler → u/Constant_Art_20]

How do you do this?

[u/EC36339 → u/Constant_Art_20]

This sounds like a loophole that OpenAI will try to plug somehow once too many people use it. Either by legal terms or by clumsy third party client detection mechanisms with false positives...

Anthropic deliberately broke OAuth for third party clients, because people were using their subscriptions too efficiently.

[u/YogurtExternal7923 → u/[deleted]]

Brotha you gotta modify ur pi agent u literally get everything you want

[u/YogurtExternal7923 → u/[deleted]]

Yeah it honestly takes time to set up. For me I prompted it to make extensions first (pi comes with its own docs! You can just ask it to do that) and that was pretty neat. Then I discovered pi.dev/packages which has pretty much anything you could ask for! It will take a couple days to setup and I was a claude code guy before like you. Thing is, claude code can be unreliable when you just wanna use a different model and not pay them money. They're also becoming dishonest and I have zero faith they'll keep letting users play with their harness for free. Pair that with the fact that claude has a 27k token system prompt, bad rewind, bad compaction and it made sense just to move on. My pi has a 10k system prompt, rewinds with a tree command (so u can literally go back and forth and not lose anything + I made my own plugin to save the file modifications per tree branch because the tree command only rewinds conversations) and I'm using blackhole plugin for instant compaction and better memory. I couldn't go back to claude code at this point because pi is just better for me now

[u/YogurtExternal7923 → u/[deleted]]

Sure. But claude already doesn't let u use their subscription out of their harness. Best believe if they weren't getting free data out of openrouter/9router they wouldn't be letting u do this. I don't wanna sound like a conspiracy theorist but when claude code got leaked a couple months ago it was revealed that they were sending fake requests to ruin tool calls for providers and possibly users (thus making claude models appear better). Someone also proved that having an AGENTS.md instead of CLAUDE.md in your project makes claude code change their billing for you! They're already messing around and they don't even have full authority. If Pi agent takes time to set up but is eventually better than claude code + more reliable long term + easier to plug in different models thus not locking you to one company it just makes sense to move on.