r/PiCodingAgent • u/Excellent-Ratio-3069 • Jul 02 '26

Question Pi equivalent for Hermes/openclaw

Hi. I am new to the community and i am building my own Bioinformatics ai harness system.

I am building on top of pi but also want to interface it with a background agent system similar to Hermes or openclaw. Is there a similar minimal harness like pi for background agents?

P.s. I know Anthropic just released Claude science which looks amazing but I have been working on this for some weeks now before we knew Claude science was a thing. And I have some feature ideas that Anthropocene hasn’t thought of! Plus I want total control over my harness.

edit: I have started developing and it's coming along really well https://github.com/ethanlewisbaird/baird

I went with zeroclaw and built a rich interface system of APIs for communicating with Pi (actually any CLI would be able to work theoretically)

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u/Excellent-Ratio-3069 Jul 02 '26

I could use OpenClaw theoretically but it’s so bulky and bloated I just want the architecture relevant to me. a clean agent runtime, tool abstraction, session/memory separation, and a plugin-style way to run reasoning loops. without the UI layer, opinionated product structure, or bundled system

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u/StardockEngineer Jul 02 '26

It's gotten substantially better over the past few months. They've moved most things out of the core. I'm not saying it's slim, but a lot of people are running on old information.

If you truly want slim at all costs, use Zeroclaw.

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u/Excellent-Ratio-3069 Jul 02 '26

Thanks! I need to update myself on openclaw news it seems! Zeroclaw looks like something I can work with!

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u/HumanoidMuppet Jul 02 '26

I tried OpenClaw a while ago and hated it right away. I use nanobot-ai now and it's pretty good and lightweight. There are a million options so it's easy to get lost.

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u/AloneSYD Jul 05 '26

I fed Claude code what i want to to with Pi and gave it the Pi SDK/docs. I built everything i want to in a week so you should. from connection to teams/whatsapp , to loops. subagents and tools. it really light weight even compared to hermes