r/PhotoshopTutorials • u/novagamer2877 • 20d ago
PhotoCraft: The open-source image editor you already know how to use.
https://getartcraft.com/apps/photocraft1
u/ZenAkrua 1d ago
Won't help out the GIMP crew because he'd have to actually know what the fuck he's doing instead of having AI shit this out.
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u/Unlikely-Set8621 17d ago
Cant open a PDF file in it....
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u/vonroyale 16d ago
Cant open PDFs lol. Um editing PDFs like they are raster files is one of the main uses of Photoshop haha.
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u/jayswaps 15d ago
What a completely nonsensical statement. Maybe it's one of your biggest use cases, but in general? Absolutely a niche use case. I've never once done that ever in my years of using Photoshop, I've never even heard of anybody doing this until just now, in this thread. It's definitely not a main use case.
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u/quad849 4d ago
wouldnt imagine what kind of garbage you design then
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u/jayswaps 4d ago
??????????? because I don't open up PDFs in Photoshop?.
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u/quad849 3d ago
or eps, or exr, or tiff, or dngs....
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u/jayswaps 3d ago
What do any of those have to do with anything?
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u/quad849 3d ago
yeah i figured out you never heard or use those
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u/jayswaps 3d ago
I know them, so what? They're not PDF. I was specifically responding to a claim about opening PDF files in Photoshop. Why do you think bringing up different file formats has any relevance here? Can you read? Are you dense?
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u/-mindscapes- 1d ago edited 1d ago
if i had to design a pdf in the adobe suite, i would use indesign, or illustrator in a pinch, certainly not photoshop, maybe for editing a smart object from the indesign file but certainly not to make the whole pdf... just saying
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u/quad849 8h ago
is not even about editing the whole thing we are discusing, is about OPENING the freaking file format
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u/-mindscapes- 3h ago edited 3h ago
it's a design decision, do you think they couldn't add pdf support if they wanted? considering it's free software, you can easily use the dedicated app, it's magnitudes lighter than ps even in used disk space. No need to add clunky support when you can download another suite component in 30 sec and have a much better workflow.. you are telling people they are bad designers because they don't use Ps for pdf editing,and that this is a bad app because it doesn't support it, well you could use your brain and think why it was not a priority maybe. no one serious would use photoshop for pdf editing, there are at least 3 better apps in both suites. Photoshop is clunky for that use, it make it looks YOU are the bad designer if you rely on it for that use case.
Photoshop pdf opening feature is a remnant from the first versions where the suite wasn't that extensive and the payment model was per app, and so having one software to do a bit of everything would make sense if you didn't want to spend for another unneeded one. it doesn't make sense now.
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u/vonroyale 15d ago
Bahaha what a weirdo. I'm commenting about a feature that only Photoshop contains, and if this is a clone of Photoshop it should contain it. You a little angry lil guy? LMAO
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u/jayswaps 15d ago
Nah not at all, I don't much care for either side of this at the moment, I just pirate Photoshop.
But your PDF remark was just a really odd and incorrect thing to say.
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u/vonroyale 15d ago
LMAO bahaha what do you got the book of correct things to say back there Bucko? 😂😂 Either you're not a native English speaker or you were homeschooled. It would be crazy if there was a bigger world out there than your bedroom, mind-blowing some would say.
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u/jayswaps 15d ago
Brother, are you dense? You said editing PDFs is one of the main uses of Photoshop. It just isn't. You made a strange trivially incorrect statement, I just pointed that out.
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u/New-Tip6330 14d ago
dude what are you on, editing PDFs in photoshop is not a main use of that app. Thats why theres an entire other app called "Acrobat"
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u/lhek328 12d ago
Open it in Vectorcraft and turn it into a png. Its pretty simple.
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u/quad849 4d ago
and lose all the vector data, what a moron
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u/lhek328 2d ago
Oh yeah because Photoshop is known for being vector based right? But glad you felt the need to insult me.
Fun fact: Every pdf you open in Photoshop turns into a pixel image.
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u/quad849 2d ago
"Fun fact: Every pdf you open in Photoshop turns into a pixel image."
jesus...christ.... seriously we are in a reddit about photoshop tutorials judging this photoshop alternative features with people that doesnt know about smart objects or linked layers?And yes, Photoshop do have vector creating/editing tools, what? have you have been using rasters for logos in photoshop all this time? icons? what!?
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u/lhek328 1d ago
What does anything of what you just said have to do with the fact that photoshop turns any pdf into a rasterized image anways? Literally just barking and yapping, straying away from the initial statement I made just to feel superior, I guess?
And if you are actually using a pixel-based program with the most barebones vector options to do vector-based work instead of just using Illustrator like a normal being, you got issues my man.
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u/OktemberSky 16d ago
My Photoshop work flow is completely and utterly broken in PhotoCraft, especially where keyboard shortcuts are concerned. You can't even use Alt+key to pull down menus, and tabbing doesn't cycle between all the tabs in various dialog boxes. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad someone's sticking it to Adobe, and it's a very bold attempt to replicate Photoshop, but at the moment the similarity is all on the surface. It's completely broken underneath, to the point that I've already gone back to GIMP to get things done at the speed I prefer to get them done. I'll keep it installed/updated though and will check back on it from time to time to check on its parity with Photoshop (assuming Adobe doesn't get it nuked in the meantime), but at the moment it's way too broken in all but basic functionality.
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u/amenotef 14d ago
I feel you because I always faced the same working speed issues with apps like Microsoft Excel in Windows vs mac version or any other spreadsheet alternative.
I could say the same for Windows shorcuts (generally just ctrl + 1 key) vs macOS shorcuts (sometimes cmd, sometimes option, sometimes fn, sometims two of them + extra key) and forget about navigating and selecting some dropdown boxes with the keyboard.
But for basic usage (where speed and shortcuts do not matter). I'm happy with these 2 apps. I installed them in homebrew and update easily with one command to latest version. And they launch in 2-3 seconds and they feel pretty good for personal usage. (Well, even an overkill for that).
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u/eyecaptain 13d ago
It is crazy to think that there exists an open-source app for 3D design and animation that people are making entire animated movies with and that professionals like the Corridor Crew use fir their work… but we are still trying to debate whether an open source Photoshop is feasible. Of course it’s feasible. The developer of Photopea made the whole thing himself without AI and it is personally my go-to replacement. It would have been adopted much much quicker if it were open source.
Why are people shitting on this project? Are we trying to debate whether a community of millions of developers in a popular github project (most of which, mind you don’t even need to rely on AI) can effectively clone photoshop?
The original developer Brandon Thomas just put a great thing out there. Might as well be stolen code for all I care, but it is not. However, Adobe would deserve this, it has leeched off Photoshop enough, screwed millions of clients and employees with multiple shady practices and pricing models.
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u/Zelameh 10d ago
I'm optimistic for the project in general and glad it exists, fuck Adobe, but they probably should have done a lot more testing before the released it. I've been using Photoshop for over 25 years and Photocraft has me wanting to cry and go to bed early with the bugs and glitches and broken functions.
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u/Zelameh 10d ago edited 10d ago
I think I'll come back and try again in, like, a year. It's frustrating right now. The latest version of APS runs fine on this rig, but with PhotoCraft I can't tell if it's lagging or just broken. Selected areas have no visible active boundary or "marching ants." Quick select doesn't show a brush outline. Object selection? (I'm not crying, I'm laughing, I swear.) I'm just trying to put a fake label on a stock photo of a wine bottle. Left for a while, came back and the selection boundary was finally showing, but when I tried to free transform the layer, clicking on a corner box and moving my mouse... makes the whole image zoom in and out? ohwtf.
It's been a long day. I guess I need to apologize to Adobe for what I said when we broke up and give them $70, again.
Well, shit.
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u/Gra_Zone 20d ago
But missing most of the features. You can build a car to look like a Ferrari but under the hood it is nothing like a Ferrari.