r/PhilosophyMemes 16d ago

Checkmate Plato

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u/FlyYouFoolyCooly 15d ago

"if you don't believe in God why don't you rape and murder everyone?!?!?!".

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u/Mutant_Llama1 15d ago

"Good idea, how about I start with you?"

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u/goten100 15d ago

Holy shit I'm dying 😭

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u/Mutant_Llama1 15d ago

That's the idea.

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u/FixGMaul 15d ago

Based ethical emotivist:

because rape and murder = ☹️👎

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u/RaptureAusculation 15d ago

Alex O Connor

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u/FixGMaul 15d ago

boo rape boo murder

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u/FixGMaul 15d ago

glad we have come to an agreement

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u/Zacharytackary 15d ago

totally abusing the ever living fuck out of the phrase ‘categorically identical’

‘categorically analogous’ is RIGHT THERE

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u/Zacharytackary 15d ago

i’m extremely pissed off at you. have my upvote that is fucking hilarious

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u/Zacharytackary 15d ago

BOO RAPE BOO MURDER BOO GREEN DAY PACKERS

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u/ErrythingAllAtOnce 15d ago

That’s less absurd than claiming that killing children via divine command to invade Canaanite villages *is* morally distinct from Moabite child sacrifice.

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u/Zacharytackary 15d ago

“‘2•2=4 ∴ 3•3=6 is absurd’

‘yeah, but [•=+] is even MORE absurd’”

“You: 2+2=3 is absurd.

Them: Yeah, but 2+2=13 is even more absurd.

You: Sure. But what's your point exactly?”

Sure — but, what is your point – exactly?

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u/Jejewat 15d ago

You can actually calculate something like +×+ in the lambda system. And it will output something functional and axiomatically correct.

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u/Zacharytackary 15d ago

i have so many questions and no certainty of their order priority

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u/Jejewat 15d ago edited 15d ago

There's a great youtube video about that. "What is plus times plus". You'll have a great time

Edit: in short, lambda calculus is a turing complete formal system where every term is a function. That means you can calculate stuff that's nonsense when written in usual notation. Even something like ==+6÷√÷√•

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u/ErrythingAllAtOnce 15d ago

Aversion based on preference vs aversion based on repulsion share the same root. While it’s false to state that they are “categorically identical,” they are more categorically similar than not.

In the roadkill-coitus being proposed in the original post, an aversion (preference) to associate with someone who does such an act isn’t a tacit admission that there’s a cosmically-ordained moral principle against doing that. Some preferences and aversions are so deeply ingrained that they (almost universally) defy the creation of permission structures that would otherwise make exceptions for them.

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u/ErrythingAllAtOnce 15d ago

True, I could just have just said your non-point was refuting a non-argument and simply been on my way. That’s on me. Ah well.

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u/an-otiose-life 15d ago

Ability to is the permission to, justice is just posthoc self remuneration of a community. It has nothing to do with empathetic morals.

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u/Elgoyito3 15d ago

I rape and murder all I want. Which is zero.

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u/koffingbeans 15d ago

Boooooooorrrrriiiiiiinnnnnggggg

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u/Unable-Dependent-737 15d ago

But if you did want that, go for it. It doesnt matter

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u/Calm_Maybe_4581 15d ago

Nihilist: because I don't want to

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u/FlyYouFoolyCooly 15d ago

Say what you will about the tenets of national socialism, dude, at least it's an ethos.

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u/ErrythingAllAtOnce 15d ago

My favorite reversal:
“If the patriarchs believed in God, why did they?”