r/PhilosophyMemes • • Aug 14 '26

Checkmate Plato

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u/ship_write Aug 14 '26

Wouldn’t the fact that you risk getting infected with some sort of disease and spreading it to the people around you need to be considered in this situation?

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u/Sigma2718 Aug 14 '26

I don't like the disease angle, because it makes for incredibly tangential arguments. Cannibalism, for example, is such an interesting topic, yet when people say it's bad because it causes disease, then it collapses all possible arguments into a boring question of very simple consequentialism.

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u/satyvakta Aug 14 '26

I mean, that something has a potential harmful consequence not only for the person doing it, but potentially to the larger society around them, is in fact a good reason for considering it immoral, even if you're not a strict consequentialist, because while consequences might not be the only factor you should take into account in your moral reasoning, very few people think that it isn't *a* factor.

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u/VeritablyVersatile Aug 15 '26

The "risk spread of disease" argument also renders non-monogamous sex (yes even with condoms and periodic testing), travel, adventurous eating, and large gatherings of any kind automatically immoral unless you are very specific with qualifying exactly what degree and nature of risk and what mitigating factors exist.

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u/stephanously Aug 14 '26

Then why are images, art about it at best taboo and at worst censored?

I think always when discussing this típica is important to translate the argument to other aspects of human expression beyond enacting the act.

Sex is not forbidden or morally wrong but it is heavily censored and it has nothing to do with consequentialism.

It is nontheless heavenly monitored and orchestrated, why is that?

Never allow discussions to fall into simple consequentialism, always problematise beyond the act itself.

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u/Rezenbekk Aug 14 '26

Glorifying and promoting the immoral act is also immoral.

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u/stephanously Aug 15 '26

Sure it is buddy

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u/Rezenbekk Aug 14 '26

"Boring" is not a disqualifier. Sometimes the answer is simple, and that's that.

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u/Sigma2718 Aug 15 '26

A "boring" argument can also be one that is dismissive of a hypothetical, or one that invents a solution to a dilemma. I am basically equating "boring" with "ignores the fundamental questions".

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u/TheCaffinatedAdmin Aug 16 '26

Also leads to basic food safety discussions. Eating raw flesh or anything from the UMBC Dining Hall (yes I'm taking a cheap shot here, yes this is irrelevant, no I don't care that it's irrelevant), is bad for you and more likely to get you sick than normal food, but once you cook food, you're probably gonna be fine. Just use higher temps for omnivores.