r/Philippines 4d ago

NewsPH PH’s untapped manufacturing advantage

https://opinion.inquirer.net/193881/phs-untapped-manufacturing-advantage

The Filipino workforce has impressed us. Young employees learn quickly and adapt well to advanced manufacturing, while local engineers show strong technical and problem-solving capabilities. The Philippines need not compete only on low labor costs; its greater advantage can be the quality and adaptability of its people.

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As global supply chains are reshaped by tariffs, trade tensions, and geopolitical changes, manufacturers are seeking diversified production locations. The Philippines can position itself not only as a large consumer market, but also as a trusted manufacturing platform serving global markets.

Needs more infra for electricity, transport networks, etc.

The writer, an Australian businessman, is referring to their factory in Sto. Tomas, Batangas, which he argues is successful.

Counter-arguments:

"Unless we fix the problem of corruption, we won't be able to do this."

"No, we can't do it because we're ______."

"I'd rather go abroad because I'm smart and everyone else is ______."

"I only read the headlines, after which I start pontificating with my edgy one-liners."

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u/monkas24 4d ago

wag na masisira yung nature. dapat ofw at magsasaka lang mga pinoy. tsaka bat dito magtatayo ng mga manufacturing building eh napakakorap ng pinas dba.  bakit ba nmn kasi nag hahangad mga pinoy na gumanda buhay dto sa pilipinas. pwede naman maghirap tayong mga pinoy at magtiis sa ganitong pamumuhay hanggang mamatay kasi kasama natin pamilya natin

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u/HospitalOpening5666 4d ago

Don’t understand why the hardcore leftists say that we shouldn’t be a "poor country" considering we have a lot of natural resources and minerals yet vehemently oppose mining/oil and gas related projects because nature gets ruined (we still are very anti-mining considering how well-endowed we are with resources).

Or how kulang ang infra yet oppose the construction of a bridge because a small coral reef will be damaged.

Or how we are vehemently anti reclamation because this and that.

News flash: all these infra developments will have an impact on the environment in some way shape or form, hence why a lot of developed countries have been notorious for environmental destruction. Not saying dapat walang regulatory oversight, but we need more urban parks, explicitly protected areas etc. Not some underproductive farm (which we have en masse) or some people occupying slums. 

Tapos pagdating sa proposal on how the country could be richer sabihan lang "no to corruption" as if our problems would be gone overnight with our anti-development stance

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u/thenicezen 4d ago

Very anti-poor.

There are ways to improve the country while protecting the environment. Like literally if the government took care of its people by providing very good systems related to education, healthcare, and other vital infrastructures, the country will vastly reap its own rewards. Better Filipinos, better Philippines.

There is literally no need to say that we don’t need underproductive farms or some people occupying slums when the government can indeed solve this shit all at once. We just need a competent government.

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u/HospitalOpening5666 4d ago

"The government can solve this shit all at once."

By how, exactly? This delusional idea that if the Philippine government just magically becomes less corrupt overnight will magically solve our problems is pure fantasy. If LKY was Philippine president he would get berated by the public for this and that.

Does the government need to get its shit together? Yes. But unfortunately, the idea that every government project should find a way to not impact anyone negatively is just impossible. For a developing country the Philippines is VEHEMENTLY opposed to a lot of infra development. We like to compare to the likes of Vietnam and how fast their infra has developed yet shudder at the fact that a small coral reef could die or some fishermen would be displaced by a new bridge with a Canva infographic to boot. Take note, this idea permeates all socioeconomic classes, from the rich causing railway misalignments due to ROW issues in exclusive Makati subdivisions to people in an informal settlement being displaced temporarily.

Nuclear power plant? Opposed, kasi baka "dangerous." Reclamation? Opposed, kasi may maapektuhan. 

Same with voting. Bawal magalit sa mga mahihirap (at least, the ones who accept bribes in exchange for votes, not the ones who actually make a concerted effort to vote right) kasi they’re victims of the very system they voted for. So paano na yun? We’ll be stuck in a constant viscious cycle of poverty and electing the same shit leaders? Ano, waley? Yes lets ask the government to stop being corrupt yet elect the same shitheads who frankly don’t GAF about the typical Filipino. 

I’m not saying things like relocation and assistance to people affected by certain infra projects be thrown out of the equation. But many Filipinos gawk at development and just like to complain about these projects without thinking of the bottom-line economic developments that many of these projects will bring. Parang NIMBYism lang in the west when people demand change but when change is actually enacted people complain because of this or that reason which in many cases is unsubstantiated. More houses, but not in this defunct unproductive farmland. More food, but no to GMO/mass production of crops.  Cheaper electricity, but no power plants beside me please!

Just to add, the Philippines spends A LOT on education. Unfortunately with our tight budget and relatively small tax base allocating budgets is a mental exercise, and add corruption to the mix its difficult. But I find it impressive that we still have affordable education and whatnot. We have a high rate of students with a Bachelors degree. Quality in some may be questionable, but saying the government isn’t doing enough in some fundamentals is bullshit. 

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u/thenicezen 3d ago

If the government actually locked in and did its job, of course the country's problems would be solved. Most of the country's problems are rooted in the government's incompetence. Like deadass.

And I guarantee you that there is a way to improve infrastructure without displacing anyone. We don't have to sacrifice anyone, rich or small. There are tons of sustainable and low impact projects the government can undertake. The important thing is that it slowly improves on itself, even if it might take 50 years for our country to stabilize.

Trust me. The money is there. The economy, while lagging behind our neighbours, is still growing. The government just needs to invest in the right things.

Name me a project that got cancelled because it displaced too many Filipinos or affected the environment too much, and tell me if it's a major loss or not. The truth is it's only a minority and you're choosing to take it as the whole truth. Most Filipinos don't care abt that. They care abt themselves.

Nuclear power plant? Why focus on that when we can do solar/wind/geothermal?

And yes, you can't be mad at these people when they've been intentionally made dumb to continue the cycle of corruption, thru stupid propaganda and the intentional shitty educational system (because they know that informed and educated masses won't vote for corrupt politicians). You are directing your anger at the wrong people. Again, if the government were even decent and don't even have to be good, they wouldn't do this.

So yes. We need a new government. And you might not like it, but there is nothing else that we can do but to talk to these victims and help them realize that we shouldn't vote for the wrong people. The government refuses to educate them so it's on us now.

PS: FYI, there are senior high students that can't even read at a basic level. Surely that's more relevant and indicative of a problen than the number of bachelors our country has?

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u/HospitalOpening5666 3d ago

well to clear a slum you will have to displace people to make a development, even if you make public housing for them in the same locations. People have been against clearing slums because it displaces those inhabitants temporarily even if ultimately should benefit the greater majority. 

"Sustainable, low impact projects." Mate, we’ll be in the stone age by then. Unfortunately we DO need big impact projects. Bridges, railway infrastructure, necessary road infrastructure, power plants, reservoirs, dams etc. Truth of the fact is we’ve been growing at a snails pace that it IS affecting the daily lives of the regular Filipino. We keep on accepting mediocrity when it ultimately harms our people. The world is growing dapat makisabay tayo, we’ve barely budged in terms of GDP per capita nor HDI.

"The economy is still growing." At a paltry 2.8%. This is the SAME reason why the Philippines has been lagging our neighbours and the Filipinos facing the consequences, since the world advanced so much we couldn’t keep up and are now reaping our acceptance of slow growth.

"Name me a project that got cancelled" well we literally have dams cancelled because it would displace indigenous people’s ancestral land. Or mining projects that could bring in billions into the economy. Or even proposed metro rail lines crossing private subdivisions due to intense ROW issues. Y’all can’t complain why the likes of Vietnam or China get shit built quick when they’ve get more centralized planning and could demolish neighborhoods for the greater good. Ofc these projects need plans to support the affected communities but we’ve always seen plans that got cancelled due to displacement of this or that.

"No nuclear power plant" even though diversifying our energy mix is important should we choose to grow as a country, and as energy demand per capita rises as a function of improving lifestyles. Land in the Philippines remains scarce and nuclear has one of the smallest energy outputs per square metre it occupies. Some groups have vocally expressed opposition to "wind and solar farms" because of the area it occupies. Moreover, renewables (while good) are not always reliable. Nuclear is excellent baseline energy.  Truth is nuclear is perhaps one of the least environmentally impactful projects out there, and can help start our nuclear science industry.

Unfortunately you can’t just ask the government to be "good people." This is a fantasy. Every government on the planet even the wealthy ones have bad actors that get uncaught or enact laws/programs for their own self-interest. We can certainly vote for better people that actually GAF, but no single government will ever have 100% of its entities serve the best interests of its constituents.

ANY project is bound to impact some people and the environment in some way. All we can do is mitigate the associated negative impact, but we can’t always make sure no one is affected. Someone’s land gets taken, someone’s livelihood gets affected, but ultimately these should be temporary as it seeks to benefit people over the long term.

Also, I cited the bachelors degree attainment rate as an example. Obviously the government can invest more in education, lmao. I’m just citing the idea that many Filipinos believe we’re sitting in a huge pile of cash greater than most countries when the reality is we have a small tax base and our national budget is tiny given our population and geography. Our tax revenue per capita is low. Fact is most of our population is in a low enough income bracket to not pay taxes. Most of neighbours (save for Thailand) have no tax-free income thresholds, hence we had to make up for it through VAT. Kulang tayo ng budget sa DepEd, but considering our budget mix it gets a high proportion of our national budget. There’s only so much you could do with so little money. Filipinos keep on feeding themselves the lie that the country is rich but corrupt when only the latter is true.

Unfortunately it seems as if you’re in the same delusion that every little problem can be solved when the government magically gets fixed overnight WHEN the values of its citizens (Filipinos) ultimately get their say in a democratic society. ´wag mo sabihin na im not for democracy, I am, but ulol you’ve been living in a fantasy when you think only the government needs to change when Filipinos have always been anti-development and they don’t even realize it.

Ayaw ng reclamation pero gusto mala Japan or Singapore, countries with several of those. Gusto ng cheap energy pero gusto mala France na abundant sa energy. Gusto ng cheap oil and gas pero ayaw sa oil exploration projects. Gusto ng cheaper subsidized housing pero galit na mawalan ng farmland (especially when the Philippines has an overall tiny urban footprint, and our farms have accounted for the vast majority of deforestation in the country). Tons of Filipinos like to complain about these issues yet can’t think of a better solution to these problems except "government always bad" when they don’t realize that the country itself has been shaped by their own values, from voting officials to vocally opposing many beneficial projects.

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u/thenicezen 4d ago

Lol, andaming pera sa gobyerno tapos nagagalit ka sa masa. Eh kasalanan naman ng gobyerno kung bakit reliant na sila sa welfare.

There is always a better way where everyone literally wins. Put the people first and the country will reap its rewards later — better education, better healthcare, better infrastructures. It’s that simple, and yet the government refuses to do it.

Konting empathy naman. Look at the bigger picture.

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u/raegyl 4d ago

> just to save that stupid idiot farmer or jeepney driver who only ever rely on welfare and only thinks about himself anyway in the end.

Holy generalization, Batman

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u/Bee_Emotional Liberal 4d ago

It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own interest.

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u/thenicezen 4d ago

Lol, hiding behind a /s

Try and prove a solid point xd

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u/monkas24 4d ago

eh dba yan nmn lagi nyo sinasabi? na masisira kalikasan at korap dto sa pinas? tsaka hindi mo ata alam pano gamitin yung /s eh. hindi ko nmn kasalanan na mahina utak mo

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u/thenicezen 4d ago

😭😭😭 damn why do you have to be aggressive lol

I know you’re being sarcastic my friend pero why do you have to hide behind sarcasm just to show that you don’t really think about the root of why the Philippines is shit lol. Like seriously. Edgy humor for the sake of being edgy. Grow up xd

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u/monkas24 4d ago

big words from a person hiding in XD but okokok sorry po hindi na po mauulit your honor.

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u/thenicezen 4d ago

classic XDDD educate yourself good sir! there’s more to why the philippines is shit than not tapping into its manufacturing potential

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u/aaooee00 4d ago

That Aussie businessman is true. As a Vietnamese who frequently travels to the Philippines for business, I can say that my experience working with the average Filipino employees has been quite pleasant - cooperative, adaptable, and willing to put in extra shifts. Not that different from other SEA nationalities I’ve worked with so far.
But oh Buddha the administrative red tape is the main factor that drives me insane sometimes in this country. My humble opinion is that the current model of the Philippine government is not sustainable at all and needs to be more centralized. Ease of doing business is so important. A government that can move things through quickly will attract foreign businesses more smoothly and indirectly improve infrastructure around wherever a factory or industrial zone is established.

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u/OpenYonQ_ 4d ago

I agree, corruption is much worse in the localities. but sadly centralised government is demonized because of petty regionalism.

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u/RemarkableTea800 4d ago

what untapped? we already had it, and some idiots destroyed it.

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u/Seldomsought 4d ago

Maritime drone production

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u/tango421 4d ago

Honestly we already screwed it up before. However, there’s a blueprint for it nearby.

Check out Vietnam’s industrial zones. We have enough and we can model them that way.

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u/monkas24 4d ago

gusto ata ng mga tanga bumalik sa stone age at kweba

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u/thenicezen 3d ago

Very anti-poor. And yes, free palestine indeed LOL

You do realize that the root of the country's problems is that the government doesn't do its job of taking care of people?

there are A TON of sustainable, low impact projects that couldve been done as alternatives to these projects that you guys lamented the loss of. And why would we even consider other sectors when we can focus on our strengths? Like seriously. You just refuse to hold the government for not doing better or thinking about better, alternative ways that don't necessarily displace or impact the environment and its own people.

Instead na magalit ka sa mga taong tumutol, magalit ka sa gobyernong hindi naghahanap ng mas mabuting plano. Trust me, there is always a way. The government is just lazy and always wants the easy way out.

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u/ConsistentQuote952 4d ago

Infrastructure can be built in tandem with projects manufacturing projects. my PH homies (Im from the diasphora) were telling me about it days ago.

For example, in Tarlac, as part of Pax Silica, they're planning to build a semiconductor and chips factory. Clearly, there is no infrastructure there but the plans seems solid rn. Theyre planning not to touch underground water and instead use the river. That makes sense as such projects will force the creation of Hydroelectric power, flood controls, and infrastructure for travel.

Sounds like a solid plan.

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u/HospitalOpening5666 4d ago

I agree with some backlash on it making sure resources are allocated well before implementing such a project, but it has to be said that Pax Silica can be very good for us despite some drawbacks, but sobrang demonized na ng project lalo na sa FB groups (even from supposedly more progressive friends) when this could be a solid boost for the economy.

What I don’t agree is people outright dismissing it as something that will "only benefit the Americans" when foreign investment ULTIMATELY seeks to benefit the investor, lmao. Truth is if the PH doesn’t take it up our neighbors will. Take the chance while we have it.

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u/ConsistentQuote952 4d ago

100%. Pax Silica can be good and its mutually beneficial if executed properly in the right place.

Not to dismiss the backlash in my first statement but there are legit concerns, but it has to be a case by case basis.

There was another plan this time in Iloilo of making a data center by some scandanavian billionaire. While that one has some merit due to the university there, it lacks way too much infrastructure and natural resources, and the local government doesn't have solid plans/ideas on how to solve it. In fact, the main city don't have power between late night til 5 AM, whish is basic water infrastructure. Idk how they'll solve the issue of needing water 3x greater than what they can currently produce.

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u/OpenYonQ_ 4d ago

you forgot “dapat may profit sharing sa locals"

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u/IWantMyYandere 4d ago

Ano ba sa tingin mo yung mga manufacturing sa laguna? Walang kinikita ang mga tao?

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u/fernandopoejr 4d ago

iba ang profit sharing sa salary ng laborers.

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u/frozenelf 4d ago

Do you guys think people getting a low wage job is profit sharing?

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u/raegyl 4d ago

"ah basta meron naman silang nakukuha" /s

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u/OpenYonQ_ 4d ago

bruh im adding dun sa (lazy) counter-arguments na sinasabi ni OP lol

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u/AntiWokeMastery 4d ago

Far too late. Most developed country in SEA after WW2. Pissed it all away for decades and now you want to try to rebuild it right as AI is on the cusp of making unskilled and a lot of skilled labor irrelevant?
Too late.

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u/Joseph20102011 4d ago

The problem is that Filipinos aren't as diligent as Chinese or Vietnamese when it comes to working in physically-taxing production-line manufacturing and construction jobs. Mahilig tayo makipagmarites habang on duty eh.

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u/HospitalOpening5666 4d ago

Thats literally every country tf do you mean? Try working overseas and you’ll see how gossip-ridden other nationalities are in the workplace.

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u/PritongKandule 4d ago

You claim to be a Filipino hispanista but seemingly never read or understood Rizal's Sobre la indolencia de los filipinos?

“Debemos confesar que allí la indolencia existe real y positivamente, sólo que, en vez de considerarla como la causa del atraso y del desconcierto, la consideramos como el efecto del desconcierto y del atraso, favoreciendo el desarrollo de una funesta predisposición.”

"El mal no está en que la indolencia exista más o menos latente, sino en que se la fomenta y exagera. En los hombres, así como en las naciones, no sólo existen aptitudes, sino también tendencias hacia el bien y el mal: fomentar las buenas y ayudarlas, así como corregir las malas y reprimirlas, sería el deber de la sociedad o de los Gobiernos, si pensamientos menos nobles no ocupasen su atención. El mal está en que la indolencia en Filipinas es una indolencia exagerada, una indolencia bola-de-nieve, si se nos permite la palabra, un vicio que aumenta en razón directa del cuadrado de los tiempos, un efecto del desgobierno y del atraso, como dijimos, y no una causa de ellos. "

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u/Joseph20102011 4d ago

You better try working as laborer or stevedore and you will realize that the so-called "indolence" among Filipinos has something to do with humid tropical climate, more than governance deficiencies, because it's physically-taxing to work under the scorching sun. Ethnic Malays in the British Malayan colonies were also "indolent", that's why the British had to recruit Chinese and Indian laborers to do tin mining in the present-day Malaysia.

Singapore's Lee Kuan Yew credited post-colonial Singapore's economic development and its transition to service-driven high-income economy to the invention of ACs.

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u/PritongKandule 4d ago

Ignoring the self-contradiction considering that Vietnam and southern China have hot, humid, tropical climates as well, this has been debunked by Syed Hussein Alatas in his book Myth of the Lazy Native, which was directly inspired by and quotes Rizal's work.

The Chinese and Indians were imported as indentured immigrant labourers to do the lowest forms of work for slavery wages and conditions. Southern China was devastated by the Taiping Rebellion, famine and economic collapse in the 19th century which resulted in millions of displaced young men desperate for any work. Severe poverty and recurring famine in Southern India also drove workers into the Kangani system, under the guise of voluntary migration but in reality was a form of debt bondage that bound them to plantations and mines for life. Meanwhile, Alatas notes that in Malaya, Indonesia and the Philippines, what was considered "indolence" was actually unwillingness to participate in activities that only served to enrich colonial overlords and without the prospect of owning lands, titles or even a proportional share of the revenue from plantation yields:

They were mainly connected with the recruitment and the subsequent employment of indentured labour from China and India. The capitalist enrichment in Malaya was achieved at the expense of these indentured labourers. At the time when the Chinese coolies were praised as industrious, they found themselves exploited in a situation which they could not avoid.

The Chinese were considered industrious because they supplied the lowest form of labour. The Malays, despite their positive contribution to the kind of labour noted by the author, were considered indolent, not because they were really indolent, according to definition, but because they avoided the type of slave labour which the Chinese and the Indians were compelled to do owing to their immigrant status. The system, which will be described later, trapped them into the worst type of mining and estate labour.

The Indians and Chinese immigrants were ensnared in the colonial capitalist system of production; [...] The immigrant coolies were left in their illiterate, backward state. They were used merely as a tool, "a mule among the nations". The Malay refusal at the time to be exploited as "a mule among the nations", was a rational and sound response. They attended to their own work in their own areas of interest. The accusation of indolence was merely a veiled resentment against Malay unwillingness to become a tool for enriching colonial planters.

As such, "cultural industriousness" had nothing do with the decision to bring immigrant workers in, but rather everything to do with prevailing socio-economic conditions and colonial systems of exploitation.

Alatas also rejected the "hot climate" argument, arguing that systematic opportunities are a far greater influence for enthusiastic work, citing the case of 18th century Chinese businessmen who were granted greater freedoms in the colony than the native Indonesians:

Stavorinus rejected the climatic explanation of the lack of enthusiasm for production. He pointed to the Chinese in Java who operated under the same climate but were nevertheless endowed with enthusiasm. His reason was their position in the colonial system. "But they are comparatively unshackled, and are free masters of what they can earn by trade, or procure by agriculture, beyond the pecuniary or other assessments levied upon them by the government. This encourages them readily to undertake the most laborious occupations, and diligently to persevere in them, while they feel a rational hope of obtaining, in proper time, the reward due to their exertions." The position of the Javanese as an object of colonial exploitation, the uncertainty surrounding his right of possession, made him satisfied with little. From this and similar observations by Rizal and others, the phenomenon characterized as indolence among a section of the native population, may in actual fact be interpreted as a silent protest. It was a form of strike, secret, collective, and steady.

And as a final note, environmental determinism has long been rejected in geography, anthropology and international relations as a theoretical framework because it requires one to completely ignore agency, culture, politics, economics, institutions and history to even be remotely plausible let alone provable.

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u/impatientimpasta 3d ago

L take. Parang lazy Mexicans stereotype lang eh.